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Trump to try to invalidate all mail-in ballots in PA (Original Post) VMA131Marine Nov 2020 OP
States' rights mean nothing to this clown. 😡 secondwind Nov 2020 #1
The Repukes only want states rights when it suits their corrupt agenda. roamer65 Nov 2020 #8
Translation: madaboutharry Nov 2020 #2
His voters also had access to the mail. mzmolly Nov 2020 #3
+1 Hugin Nov 2020 #17
Exactly. The whole thing is BS but that kills it dead as a doornail. Statistical Nov 2020 #18
Throw in the fact that PA and all States have allowed absentee ballots for decades. Hugin Nov 2020 #19
This ia all a GOP/RNC plan to grift more money from their cult. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #4
This. They'll withdraw/stop any action before they get to SCOTUS Maru Kitteh Nov 2020 #12
Love your awesome sig pix! Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #23
Thanks! Joe Biden campaign has a GIPHY account, so many Maru Kitteh Nov 2020 #24
Wow, the drama HariSeldon Nov 2020 #5
Citing Constitutional grounds. Obviously to go to SCOTUS underpants Nov 2020 #6
they can claim Equal Protection all they want. As valid as trump making his claim on wins last week Roland99 Nov 2020 #29
I know but SUPREME COURT is a great fund raiser underpants Nov 2020 #30
ha! Roland99 Nov 2020 #31
So like absentee ballots in all of the other states. Pathetic Rice4VP Nov 2020 #7
States have different methods for validating mail-in ballots VMA131Marine Nov 2020 #10
There are limits. The would-be traitors on SCOTUS aren't likely to pat_k Nov 2020 #9
they can and they will if they get the chance. their loyalty is to der fuhrer nt msongs Nov 2020 #11
I really don't see every Repub refusing to remove the black robbed traitors. . . pat_k Nov 2020 #15
SCOTUS doesn't need Trump anymore. They can save face, and get rid of a problem Progressive Jones Nov 2020 #16
I kind of want to see what he does if it does get to the SC and the ones he picked rule against him JI7 Nov 2020 #13
If SCOTUS is smart VMA131Marine Nov 2020 #14
Yep. I think the absurdity of the claims goes too far. pat_k Nov 2020 #21
They would need twenty GOP senators, not four. Wednesdays Nov 2020 #26
Of course. I'm thinking of simple majority to impeach. My bad. pat_k Nov 2020 #28
Their whole "case" is conjecture. blogslut Nov 2020 #20
I want recounts on the states he won Bayard Nov 2020 #22
This lawsuit has no chance of succeeding- this is the kind of issue you raise beforehand Alhena Nov 2020 #25
Certainly, the timeliness of the suit is going to be an issue VMA131Marine Nov 2020 #27

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
8. The Repukes only want states rights when it suits their corrupt agenda.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:02 AM
Nov 2020

It’s always a one way street with the deplorables.

madaboutharry

(40,187 posts)
2. Translation:
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:56 AM
Nov 2020

“We don’t think votes from Black people and Democrats should count.”

It’s the new Jim Crow with a twist.

Republicans are loathsome.

Statistical

(19,264 posts)
18. Exactly. The whole thing is BS but that kills it dead as a doornail.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:32 AM
Nov 2020

There is no equal protection violation if someone chooses to vote in person instead of by mail. It would be like choosing to have a bench trial not a jury trial and saying your equal protection rights were suppressed because you didn't have a jury trial like other defendants.

Hugin

(33,045 posts)
19. Throw in the fact that PA and all States have allowed absentee ballots for decades.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:47 AM
Nov 2020

And, some of the counties in PA had more mail-in-ballots cast for Trump than Biden with disenfranchising the military as a cherry on top.

It's deader than a former Trump administration's appointee's career.

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
4. This ia all a GOP/RNC plan to grift more money from their cult.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:57 AM
Nov 2020

They are so far in debt that their only hope is to bleed their cult dry with lame lawsuits and recounts which is a BS ploy.

$$$$$$$$$$$ GOP RNC

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
12. This. They'll withdraw/stop any action before they get to SCOTUS
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:14 AM
Nov 2020

No chance of winning and the humiliation would be, well . . . supreme.


HariSeldon

(454 posts)
5. Wow, the drama
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:59 AM
Nov 2020

He loses even without the "late" ballots. And every reasonable court will tell him he wait far too long after the voting s system was created by law to make a complaint at this time.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
29. they can claim Equal Protection all they want. As valid as trump making his claim on wins last week
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 05:15 PM
Nov 2020

and me making a claim to the all the gold in Ft Knox (er, well, the Federal Reserve now)

FL handles mail-in ballots in the exact same manner as PA and PA's state legislature (both houses) are republican-led so I seriously doubt they'd be passing election laws that would come back and bite them in the ass and potentially kick them out of power.

This is so much smoke-and-mirrors

underpants

(182,603 posts)
30. I know but SUPREME COURT is a great fund raiser
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 05:19 PM
Nov 2020

We’re taking this to the Supreme Court! Oh and uh we might throw in something about fetuses having guns too. Please give what you can!

VMA131Marine

(4,135 posts)
10. States have different methods for validating mail-in ballots
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:09 AM
Nov 2020

But, if Trump were successful in this case he would certainly go after mailed in votes in every other state that he lost. There’s no way this should be successful but SCOTUS is accountable to no one.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
9. There are limits. The would-be traitors on SCOTUS aren't likely to
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:07 AM
Nov 2020

. . . endorse such an insane proposition. I think they would be shaking in boots that endorsing such a blatantly crazy proposition would be going too far. . . Far enough for a couple Republican Senators to cross over and vote to remove them after the House impeaches for treason.

And after their removal, Biden and pro-democracy groups file a case and the remaining members of the court set things right.

And that would open up some seats for Biden to fill.

I say, give it your best and watch it bite you in the butt one way or another. In a shameful slapdown, or treasonous action that losses them their precious seats on the court.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
15. I really don't see every Repub refusing to remove the black robbed traitors. . .
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:23 AM
Nov 2020

when the House impeaches them for their coup attempt.

If they go that way, I really don't see it ending well for them.

Of course, I could be wrong.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
16. SCOTUS doesn't need Trump anymore. They can save face, and get rid of a problem
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 01:23 AM
Nov 2020

all at once by not giving Trump his way.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
21. Yep. I think the absurdity of the claims goes too far.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:33 AM
Nov 2020

Fear of House impeachment for attempted coup for handing down a "keep DT in the WH" decision and chance of four republicans going along with Dems on removal would be hanging over their heads.

Even if the chance of four or more republicans voting to convict is slim, there is a chance. These are not courageous people.

Wednesdays

(17,311 posts)
26. They would need twenty GOP senators, not four.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:14 PM
Nov 2020

Conviction requires two-thirds of the Senate, not just a simple majority.

blogslut

(37,982 posts)
20. Their whole "case" is conjecture.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 02:19 AM
Nov 2020

I skimmed the suit doc. There's dramatic, descriptive language in it but I didn't see any proof to back up their claim of a two-track system.

Alhena

(3,030 posts)
25. This lawsuit has no chance of succeeding- this is the kind of issue you raise beforehand
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:11 PM
Nov 2020

instead of after people have already voted. No court, not even SCOTUS, is going to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of voters after they played by the rules set going in, and which weren't challenged beforehand by Trump or anyone else.

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