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Question...can the Biden/Harris campaign legally use campaign funds for their transition? (Original Post) Roland99 Nov 2020 OP
Great question! SheltieLover Nov 2020 #1
As I understand it they also have to raise inauguration and transition money underpants Nov 2020 #2
Ya know...I bet he'd be fine w/a scaled-down inauguration and, instead, get to work day one! Roland99 Nov 2020 #4
I saw a post yesterday that said they had raised nearly $7M MLAA Nov 2020 #5
The WH is currently drastically understaffed underpants Nov 2020 #11
I bet even the house plants are going to breathe a sigh of relief when MLAA Nov 2020 #16
That was me, and yes Biden saw this coming and raised 7 million for transition Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #14
It might be unpopular but what about deferring the inauguration celebration exboyfil Nov 2020 #7
Inauguration sure, transition, no. tavernier Nov 2020 #17
Definitely that is essential exboyfil Nov 2020 #18
They are talking about Logan Act violations for Biden exboyfil Nov 2020 #3
HA! So are they now going to toss Flynn under a bus or keep him up on a pedestal? Roland99 Nov 2020 #6
They, they, are a fickle lot! lol Clearly fogged in Nov 2020 #10
There may be restrictions on how the transition funds may be used Clearly fogged in Nov 2020 #8
campaign funds are the opposite. mopinko Nov 2020 #19
Yes. I was thinking of restrictions on the GSA monies. Clearly fogged in Nov 2020 #23
If the GSA doesn't sign off, the Biden team don't get security clearances. CottonBear Nov 2020 #9
he already has security clearance. mopinko Nov 2020 #21
Biden & Harris now have security clearances, but NOT the transition team. CottonBear Nov 2020 #22
Biden saw this coming and raised 7 million specifically for his transition team Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #12
Ah. That's the $7 mil mentioned earlier. Wonderful Roland99 Nov 2020 #13
to be honest, the FEC isn't in a position to enforce anything....... getagrip_already Nov 2020 #15
I don't know what the answer is Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2020 #20

underpants

(182,769 posts)
2. As I understand it they also have to raise inauguration and transition money
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:11 AM
Nov 2020

But once the GSA signs off on the letter about $9M becomes available from the Federal government. They also get office space in agencies and official emails etc.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
11. The WH is currently drastically understaffed
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:23 AM
Nov 2020

I read this yesterday. Apparently everyone in DC knows it. Due to the extremely high turnover rate and lack of applicants, the staff there isn’t near what’s needed for basic operations. Team Biden has been aware of this and been at least vetting and preparing to hire people ASAP. They are going to have to bend time just to get the normal daily functions of the place back up to speed.

MLAA

(17,282 posts)
16. I bet even the house plants are going to breathe a sigh of relief when
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:34 AM
Nov 2020

Biden’s new team refill the West Wing with competence and compassion.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
7. It might be unpopular but what about deferring the inauguration celebration
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:16 AM
Nov 2020

until some time after Covid isn't an issue. I could see a theme of stopping the BS and getting to work because we are in a crisis and we don't want it to get worse. Enough time has already been wasted.

If I was Biden and Harris, I would be prominent for the first six months without a vacation emphasizing all the time that the people's work is too important when compared to what came before.

tavernier

(12,377 posts)
17. Inauguration sure, transition, no.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:35 AM
Nov 2020

Those positions need to be filled. Our country has been run by an inexperienced skeleton crew for years and of course that’s been observed by the rest of the world, both friend and foe.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
18. Definitely that is essential
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:40 AM
Nov 2020

I can't find the quotes, but I swear that Gore was blamed in part for 9/11 because of the added transition time it took to select a President. I am willing to bet that more than one prominent Republican that is still active said it.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
3. They are talking about Logan Act violations for Biden
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:12 AM
Nov 2020

because he is taking congratulatory calls from world leaders, so who knows with this bunch.

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
8. There may be restrictions on how the transition funds may be used
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:17 AM
Nov 2020

If the funds may only be used for expenses and direct costs, repayment of advances or loans would be disallowed. It sounds like they are the same but they're quite different.

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
23. Yes. I was thinking of restrictions on the GSA monies.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:58 AM
Nov 2020

The campaign could possibly be faced with $7 million in unrecoverable expenditures. I'm sure that the campaign coffers have enough but no one really wants to take the hit.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
9. If the GSA doesn't sign off, the Biden team don't get security clearances.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:18 AM
Nov 2020

That is bad, really bad.


We should all remember what the Velveeta Voldemort said at the Inauguration:


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/the-inaugural-address/

Every four years, we gather on these steps to carry out the orderly and peaceful transfer of power, and we are grateful to President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama for their gracious aid throughout this transition. They have been magnificent.

CottonBear

(21,596 posts)
22. Biden & Harris now have security clearances, but NOT the transition team.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:49 AM
Nov 2020

Senator Harris currently has a certain very high level of clearance as a Senator.

Former Presidents can be given security briefings, but it is as a courtesy and it’s not automatic. I don’t know if former VPs get the same courtesy.

I can’t imagine that Biden will share top secret information with MF45 in the future.

Thekaspervote

(32,755 posts)
12. Biden saw this coming and raised 7 million specifically for his transition team
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:25 AM
Nov 2020

See Beau of the fifth column on YouTube for more on this

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
15. to be honest, the FEC isn't in a position to enforce anything.......
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:29 AM
Nov 2020

They don't have enough members thanks to moscow mitch and can't reach a quorum required to take any votes or proceed with any actions.

That doesn't mean the campaign can just ignore finance rules, just that there is zero chance of any penalties until we regain control of the senate. And then they will have their hands full......

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,406 posts)
20. I don't know what the answer is
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 10:44 AM
Nov 2020

but it should not be acceptable to just allow these norms and/or laws dealing with Presidential transitions to be broken. Biden should use whatever legal means that they have to fight this (and I think that they probably will if they have to)

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