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rainy

(6,088 posts)
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:31 AM Nov 2020

Karl Rove visits DJT 2016 and 2020

Maybe Trump didn’t really get that many votes?

https://harpers.org/archive/2012/11/how-to-rig-an-election/6/

Karl Rove—who met w/ Trump a few days ago—was once sued for allegedly rigging the 2004 presidential election in Ohio, but the key witness died in a plane crash. (Kerry has since said that his campaign suspected electronic rigging.) Rove met w/ Trump b4 the 2016 election too. 1/

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SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
2. I don't believe so either
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:44 AM
Nov 2020

Rove was reported to have been bragging just before election how easy it is to change votes and that changes cannot be detected.

Botany

(70,447 posts)
3. The idea that he added 7.8 million to his 2016* #s is ludicrous.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:50 AM
Nov 2020

Trump has been bleeding support from almpst get go and was never adding to base.

We have to get rid of those machines.



* I don't believe the 2016 #s either

Tribetime

(4,684 posts)
5. I'm with you...Obama won Ohio twice then suddenly
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:11 PM
Nov 2020

It shifted 10 % in 16 and polls were off in Ohio 8% and roughly the same in WI MI and PA ....not to mention 6 % nationwide

Botany

(70,447 posts)
8. Ohio has become Alabama north but the early vote was a massive here and for Trump ...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:17 PM
Nov 2020

.... and other GOPers to get the #s they got here is not credible.

BTW I don't think the polls were that far off .... it was the machines damn it.

Tribetime

(4,684 posts)
11. I must live in a different part of Ohio then you it really seemed to me
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:35 PM
Nov 2020

Like there was an overwhelming shift to Biden in the Cleveland area and its suburbs. There were plenty of Voters I know that voted for Trump in 00 16 that switch to Biden. It felt like 2008 to me that Ohio would definitely go for Joe Biden so I'm just in a different area I guess😊

rainy

(6,088 posts)
9. Without the mail in votes GOP would have succeeded
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:18 PM
Nov 2020

in stealing another election. The majority ruled by the minority more and more each election!

rainy

(6,088 posts)
4. This stuff is so heartbreaking and nothing
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 11:59 AM
Nov 2020

changes even after all the irregularities and crazy polls. Remember polls were reliable before electronic voting. Ever since they have been way off and we are fed ridiculous reasons for the discrepancies 🙄

Botany

(70,447 posts)
6. When we had mechanical voting machines that recorded the votes after you pulled the lever ...
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:13 PM
Nov 2020

.... and opened the curtain the exit polls almost always matched the voting #s.

There was a reason why McConnell howled like a hound dog when it came to spending
money and or doing anything for election security and that is he knows that they cheat
w/the machines.


3 things to do:

get rid of those machines
get rid of the electoral college
limit the Presidential elections to 6 to 8 months ... they go on too long.

rainy

(6,088 posts)
10. How do we make this happen? Even
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:21 PM
Nov 2020

our Democratic leaders seem to not think anything is happening. They either don’t want to stir the pot for loss of donor money or they don’t know about it.

Tribetime

(4,684 posts)
7. Yes and we are suppose to think it was the pollsters
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 12:14 PM
Nov 2020

Who do this for a living and adjusted for 2016 are wrong. No way if anything they underestimated Biden's support just to be on the safe side.

rainy

(6,088 posts)
13. Yep and now how about Georgia?
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 05:28 PM
Nov 2020

Will we do mail in again? Give GOP more time to figure out how cheat?

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
15. Maybe Republicans got sloppy this time in their decades of election fraud with tRUMP running it.
Tue Nov 10, 2020, 06:02 PM
Nov 2020

And the Republican politicians are worried that Donald Dumbass is going leave things exposed that would prove election fraud has been happening since the Dubya years with Karl Rove that explains all of their success and wins.

Maybe the time Rove was delusional on fux newz about President Obama winning was because like this time, there were just too many Democratic votes that they didn't anticipate needing flipped to the Republican side in the tally.

It would also explain down ballot races as well that were a sudden surprise for Republicans, if votes got flipped in some states.

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