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Maybe Trump didnt really get that many votes?
https://harpers.org/archive/2012/11/how-to-rig-an-election/6/
Karl Rovewho met w/ Trump a few days agowas once sued for allegedly rigging the 2004 presidential election in Ohio, but the key witness died in a plane crash. (Kerry has since said that his campaign suspected electronic rigging.) Rove met w/ Trump b4 the 2016 election too. 1/
Tribetime
(4,684 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Rove was reported to have been bragging just before election how easy it is to change votes and that changes cannot be detected.
Botany
(70,447 posts)Trump has been bleeding support from almpst get go and was never adding to base.
We have to get rid of those machines.
* I don't believe the 2016 #s either
Tribetime
(4,684 posts)It shifted 10 % in 16 and polls were off in Ohio 8% and roughly the same in WI MI and PA ....not to mention 6 % nationwide
Botany
(70,447 posts).... and other GOPers to get the #s they got here is not credible.
BTW I don't think the polls were that far off .... it was the machines damn it.
Tribetime
(4,684 posts)Like there was an overwhelming shift to Biden in the Cleveland area and its suburbs. There were plenty of Voters I know that voted for Trump in 00 16 that switch to Biden. It felt like 2008 to me that Ohio would definitely go for Joe Biden so I'm just in a different area I guess😊
rainy
(6,088 posts)in stealing another election. The majority ruled by the minority more and more each election!
rainy
(6,088 posts)changes even after all the irregularities and crazy polls. Remember polls were reliable before electronic voting. Ever since they have been way off and we are fed ridiculous reasons for the discrepancies 🙄
Botany
(70,447 posts).... and opened the curtain the exit polls almost always matched the voting #s.
There was a reason why McConnell howled like a hound dog when it came to spending
money and or doing anything for election security and that is he knows that they cheat
w/the machines.
3 things to do:
get rid of those machines
get rid of the electoral college
limit the Presidential elections to 6 to 8 months ... they go on too long.
rainy
(6,088 posts)our Democratic leaders seem to not think anything is happening. They either dont want to stir the pot for loss of donor money or they dont know about it.
Tribetime
(4,684 posts)Who do this for a living and adjusted for 2016 are wrong. No way if anything they underestimated Biden's support just to be on the safe side.
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)rainy
(6,088 posts)Will we do mail in again? Give GOP more time to figure out how cheat?
Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)And the Republican politicians are worried that Donald Dumbass is going leave things exposed that would prove election fraud has been happening since the Dubya years with Karl Rove that explains all of their success and wins.
Maybe the time Rove was delusional on fux newz about President Obama winning was because like this time, there were just too many Democratic votes that they didn't anticipate needing flipped to the Republican side in the tally.
It would also explain down ballot races as well that were a sudden surprise for Republicans, if votes got flipped in some states.