So, yeah. Just cause their Coup attempt

[TDale313]

Is pathetic and unlikely to work does not mean it’s not a coup attempt. These people are trying to undermine our democratic processes at every level. That needs to be treated seriously.

[bamagal62]

1. agree. I'm so tired of this crap.

[BlueJac]

2. K&R

[Caliman73]

3. Agreed. There can be no reconciliation without accountabililty

We cannot "move past" this situation until there are investigations and people are held accountable for any crimes they have committed. If we do not address the situation, then what is there to stop the next wannabe dictator from stepping up. Next time it won't be some stupid, loudmouthed, buffoon. It may just be an educated, slick, articulate psychopath who has the same vision, but a better style. If there is no consequence, then those who would follow in Trump's steps will be emboldened.

[lagomorph777]

5. Each time they get away with it, they escalate. Serious sentences will be needed to send a message.

[Caliman73]

15. True.

Nixon committed treason (Chennault Affair) to get into the presidency, then abused his power to get re-elected. He was going to be impeached before he resigned, but then Ford pardoned him. That gave us Reagan, who committed treason to get put into office (Went behind the government's back with Iran and sold them weapons). Then he broke the law by funding right wing death squads in Central America (Iran-Contra). Nothing happened. That gave us W. Bush who got into office suspiciously then proceeded to get us into a war by lying, and committed war crimes. Nothing happened to Bush and Cheney, which led directly to Trump, with a two term Obama administration in between.

[lagomorph777]

16. And then came Trump, who took it ALL to the next level.

[Caliman73]

19. Trump's stint was the most obvious march to fascism, ever.

Other Republicans have wanted to do it. Cheney wanted it REAL bad. It took letting 3 other criminal Republican presidents off the hook to bring us Trump.

If Trump is not held to account, the next one will be even worse.

[burrowowl]

18. Yes when will there be accountability?

[Ferrets are Cool]

21. I have been screaming it to the heavens...

We must prove that NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!!

[Missn-Hitch]

42. Tom Cotton awaits. Patiently. Our situation is dire.

[EndlessWire]

4. I agree. n/t

[pandr32]

6. Agreed

[Brainfodder]

7. Say the word...... T R E... you know the rest!

Until the consequences kick in, wild guessing 1/20/21....

The foxes are in the hen house and it might be time to gas them unconscious, send them to black sites to extract useful info, if they have any, and then, off to whatever?

[joshcryer]

8. Yes, they're trying to steal the election.

Which is why they co-oped the #stopthesteal hashtag, it's projection.

[wnylib]

38. Definitely projection. Maybe Trump

really believed that his own rigging of the election was guaranteed to win and is genuinely shocked that removing mail boxes and sorting machines, slowing down mail delivery by cutting staff and hours, and limiting in person voting sites did not work. Therefore, in his way of thinking, it had to be "counter-rigging" that gave Biden the win.

But I'm more inclined to believe that he has several options up his sleeve and mail tampering is just one of them. It didn't work so he challenges the votes instead.

Refusing to concede and blocking Biden from updates and funds for the transition is partly about trying to humiliate Biden and make him "beg" for what he needs. Trump loves to humiliate people because it makes him feel powerful. He tried it with Cuomo over covid supplies in the spring.

But Biden is so experienced and knowledgeable, and has so many contacts with experienced professionals, that he can proceed without Trump's cooperation. So instead of Trump coming off as powerful and in control, he just looks like a whiny, pouty child throwing a tantrum because things did not go his way.

Biden is handling this well.

Therefore, Trump will be even more aggravated and will escalate. Very rough times ahead for the next couple months.

[TwilightZone]

9. Nah, it needs to be mocked.

We have plenty of legal professionals on the case. The rest of us should point and laugh every time this stuff comes up.

If everyone mocked it for the ridiculousness it is, the world would be a better place.

[BarbD]

12. Exactly the right attitude.

Let's ignore them and concentrate on Georgia.

[wnylib]

39. Yes, ridicule is a good response to

people who have exaggerated opinions .of themselves. They expect people to be intimidated. Ridicule knocks the wind out of their sails. Remember when he boasted at the UN and the delegates laughed at him?

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

44. I think the failure to do this regarding RW nonsense all along

has enabled & empowered them. When they make arguments lacking in logic, every social media post and media piece should derisively point it out.

I'm not even talking about their lies and lack of facts, though that shouldn't be allowed to pass without ridicule either.


It's especially infuriating to see Trump get away with pontificating about various subjects he knows little to nothing about and having reporters not know how or refuse to challenge him in a way that makes it clear that his argument is simply invalid.

[hadEnuf]

10. Trump and the republicans WILL steal this election if they can get away with it.

They are looking for any flimsy-assed reason to say they won and then motivate their brown shirt base to cut loose.

That's why they are getting the DOJ and everyone else they can involved. They are trying to create an excuse.

[wnylib]

40. At this point, I suspect that his strategy

is to drag out the "doubt" about the election to delay vote certification and throw the outcome to the House, where the R's would win. When people protest, he can claim an emergency and use armed force to suppress them.

[Progressive2020]

50. Likely Scenario

That sounds like a likely scenario. People need to wake up.

[PatrickforO]

11. Yeah, today's Pompeo thing was not cute or funny - it is FUCKING DANGEROUS

The guy is Secretary of State, and he's speaking FOR THIS COUNTRY to the world.

What the blue fuck???

I'm furious. I've already called my Senators and Representative.

[hadEnuf]

14. Agreed. Not funny at all.

Tamper with vote counts after the fact, do an "emergency recount" and get some Trump stooges in high places to back it all up.

They've made votes for Democrats disappear during elections, how easy would it be to make them disappear after an election when no one is watching?

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

53. What Pompeo said echos what Trump said when asked if he's ensure a peaceful transition.

Fat Donnie told Chris Wallace and other reporters that there will be a continuation and not a transition.

[IronLionZion]

13. The Atlantic warned of something like this in the future

this time they're going to fail because they're proven to be such buffoons but a future strongman coup attempt can take lessons learned from this and do it correctly with competent people in charge of it. And half of Americans will support it.

[Turin_C3PO]

20. It's true

and I honestly don’t know what the answer is. How can we reach the 48% of the population who lives in an alternate reality? These people exist in a bubble, their beliefs being created and maintained by social media propaganda. It’s a problem that won’t go away easily.

[tinrobot]

17. The failed coup attempt is now a grift attempt.

He's getting as much money as he can from the rubes before he's kicked out.

[malaise]

22. +1,000

Rec

[Kaleva]

23. What are the specific measures that you are undertaking in responding

To this coup attempt?

[paleotn]

24. Yep, it is a coup attempt....

by people who can barely comprehend the self check out at the grocery. The one thing we've had going for us from the start is these people are dumb. I mean really dumb.

[clayton72]

25. 240,000 dead didn't trouble them. If you're not alarmed, you're not paying attention

I've been sure for a long time they intended to steal it. Not just Trump, but all the GOP that just hasn't seemed think public opinion mattered. Frankly I'm surprised they under stuffed that ballot boxes / failed to hack it. 2018 showed voters were sharply breaking with them and yet they persisted because they were sure the fix was in. Now this shit. They have no intention of surrendering power. Esper was fired because he put a stop to our military suppressing protestors.
https://www.defenseone.com/.../helicopters-over.../169704/

[paleotn]

26. Ugh.

It was relatively close because they turned out their mouth breathing base in record numbers. Nothing more. Do you realize how massive an operation would have to be to fake the vote in even one moderately large state? Much less enough to move the electoral college. This crowed would fuck up planning a toddler's birthday party. Our system of voting is a bureaucratic, disjointed mess and that's it's strength when it comes to any concerted effort to hack the vote enough to move the needle.

[OMGWTF]

27. Mike Pompeo (S of S) just said that there'd be a smooth transition to A SECOND TRUMP TERM.

WTAF?

[samsingh]

28. agreed

[pansypoo53219]

29. any GOPers who run w/ the moron bullshit should be charged w/ sedition. THEY LOST.

period.

[bamagal62]

30. This.

I did write Nancy Pelosi today. Whatever good that will do.

[Cha]

31. And, we are from Biden on down.

[BrightKnight]

32. I doubt most powerful interests really want to stand

in line to kiss dear leader’s arm pit all the time. It is good to be able to play mom again dad. Oligarchy and unrest may not be as as fun as they appear.

I am surprised there is not more push back behind the scenes. Be careful what you wish for.

[Rizen]

33. Indeed. Is there any legal action we can take?

[BobTheSubgenius]

34. Over the last 4 years, everything they've done has been pathetic and unlikely to succeed.

Why should this be different?

[MrModerate]

35. Is anyone in this thread as paranoid as me?

I posted this elsewhere, but:

Trump's recent tactical moves:
 
1. Gutted Defense Department; installed toady as Secretary.
2. Established DOJ that acts as his personal law firm and has teed up frivolous prosecutions
3. Sent SoS out to tell the world that Trump has already won
4. Intimidated half the Senate into total compliance
5. Put FBI and CIA directors on the brink

And so on.
 
Can you say “coup d'etat?"

[Progressive2020]

51. You Are Right

Trump is engaged in a slow moving coup. People need to wake up.

[MrModerate]

54. It's not like he's concealing his hand. n/t

[MyMission]

36. Lock them up!

And throw away the key!

[jimlup]

37. Don't underestimate it... these people are deeply troubled

They are moving towards outright treason.

[Blue Owl]

41. K&R

[Trueblue Texan]

43. I absolutely agree...

...and I fear it could actually be successful. It'll be like evil Laurel and Hardys at the helm but it will be just as devastating to our democracy.

[Hotler]

45. Isn't a coup attempt treason? Is the penalty for treason hanging?

Just doing a little brain storming.

[mzmolly]

46. They need to be charged accordingly

when Biden takes the oath of office.

[marble falls]

47. Right after Joe gets sworn in on Jan 20.

[essaynnc]

48. So, question about pardons....

Can he pardon "All republicans everywhere for crimes that they may or may not have committed"? Just wondering how effective that might be.

And.. Holy crap, we put up with years of Bengazi and e-mail hearings, all for naught. How about we have a couple for real crimes????????????

[Permanut]

49. The Beer Hall Putsch didn't work either..

but that was just the beginning.

[FigTree]

52. There are now 2 valid reasons for removal:

The health crisis and the lapse in national security due to the refusal to transition. Both represent a clear and present danger. The first one is indomitable. The second is fortunately lesser, in part due to the likely silent cooperation between the various agencies involved and the transition team.

[pwb]

55. They should be very careful.

New cops are in town.