So upsetting....Cunningham just called Tillis to concede

[Upthevibe]

the Senate race in N. Carolina! This is one of the races where Cunningham was way ahead but then there was a seemingly not-a-big deal scandal so I guess he slipped behind?!

They were REALLY close in this race- I mean Tillis @ 48.7% and Cunningham @ 47%. What the F is going on with this!?!?Does anyone have any ideas? (MSNBC - Ayman Mohyeldin @ around 12:30 p.m. P.S.T.)

[NCDem47]

1. You know. Demorcats get sent to Siberia for scandal. Republicans get rewarded.

Seems to be how things work lately.

[Upthevibe]

6. NCDem47....

I'm assuming you're in N. Carolina? Do you know what happened? And I am SO sick of them controlling the narrative for decades!

Newt Gingrich was having an affair while he was ring-leading the Clinton Impeachment! Dennis Hastert (former Speaker of the House) was imprisoned for sex scandals with minors when he taught before his career in the House. And so many more I can't even list and they still act like they're the one's with the "morals." I'm just so sick of it....I'm sorry....

[jackster2020]

2. It's NC....

it's really the flippiest state. Cunningham's behavior doomed him. We needed a better candidate. That race could have been won.

[moose65]

3. When I read about his sexting, my reaction was .....

Ah, crap!!

I knew it - Democrats have to be perfect. Republicans, not so much. Just look at everything Trump gets away with, and there is never any pushback or loss of support.

Cunningham was stupid, but he still would have been 100 times better than Tillis. Ugh. 6 more years of that asshole as my "Senator."

[LisaL]

4. If he was cheating, he shouldn't have fun for Senator.

NT

[Hortensis]

16. He WAS cheating, has conceded, and if angry NC Democrats whipped him

out of town I'd pull up the video and cheer them on.

Like Clinton, I don't care about his marital relationship, but I do care that he betrayed the entire nation.

[cwydro]

27. Yes, this.

I was so pissed when this started coming out. Then he compounded it by clamming up, then admitting, then clamming up again.

He had been leading in the polls all along. Nobody likes Tillis. Cunningham’s vet status was helping him with fence-riding Repubs.

Hope it was worth it for him.

[moose65]

24. Oh, he had FUN all right

But is it disqualifying in the age of Trump?

[Upthevibe]

10. moose65....

When I heard about it I felt the same but in the beginning he actually went up a little in the polls.

My daily life (I was a substitute teacher and we were all laid off on March 13 and now that school's back the classes are virtual so there's no work) and almost everyone's daily lives have all been horribly, horribly, impacted!

So now, because of what this candidate did, our chances of getting the Senate are even harder now!?!?! This is such bullshit!

[LisaL]

15. As we now know, polls were totally wrong.

NT

[LisaL]

5. We didn't know we needed a better candidate because his "sexting" only became known

after he won the primary.

[blm]

7. The race would've been won by over 5% if Jackson ran.

Jeff Jackson is the best politician in the state and everyone knows it. Cunningham would have held off.

[Celerity]

18. Anthony Foxx or Josh Stein would have won as well

[dsc]

30. Not so sure about Stein

he barely is leading in his race for AG. He is likely to wind up winning but it isn't called yet nor has his opponent conceded.

[octoberlib]

34. Love Jeff Jackson and totally agree!

[RANDYWILDMAN]

14. True, but Tillis is a piece of crap

How are we losing to that... remember when NC had election fraud was that 2018 and did they really fix all that crap or do they cheat through machines????

[SMC22307]

8. Tillis ran ads trashing Cunningham for...

cheating with a woman whose husband was a wounded combat soldier. Ads featured veterans and a "concerned" suburban woman. Those ads did a lot of damage...

[Shermann]

12. They ran them 24/7 around here

I would turn off my TV and it would turn back on automatically with Thom Tillis' ads (even after I unplugged it!)

[SMC22307]

28. Yep. I saw them while in Raleigh... they were played TO DEATH, mainly on CW-22.

I think Cunningham might have survived the sexting and affair, but when you factor in a wounded combat vet and Cal's wife and kids -- game over.

[cwydro]

9. I voted for him, but he screwed himself.

What got to a lot of people was not the original scandal, but when rumors of other women surfaced - he refused say if it was true.

Smacks of bad judgement if nothing else. I know I wasn’t the only NC Democrat remembering John Edwards and being equally disgusted.

Thanks Cal, a lot of us thought you were going to help us in the senate.

[Upthevibe]

11. That's what I mean....

This f'ing guy could effect the very direction of the country! Also, why did he concede when it looks like the race was so close? Does anyone have anymore information?

[LisaL]

19. What information? He is almost 2 points behind.

It's not close.

[Upthevibe]

25. Lisal...Thank you...

I didn't really have context about it not being close. I'm just so disappointed because I've been keeping a really close look at the Senate races for several months, and I had Cunningham in the "looks like we could very well get this one" category. I'm just disappointed....

[XanaDUer2]

45. this!

nt

[brooklynite]

13. Simple answer: Republicans voted for a Republican...

[LisaL]

17. Governor Cooper (D) got re-elected in the same election.

NT

[Jspur]

20. As North Carolinian Cooper getting re-elected wasn't shocking considering NC always

does ticket splitting when it comes to electing a governor. Usually NC elects a Republican president and a Democratic Governor.

[LisaL]

22. My point is, a Democrat can win state wide election in NC.

NT

[Polybius]

26. Not if their candidates are into sexting

To win in NC, Democrats have to be morally perfect.

[dsc]

31. He got a COVID bump, and his opponent was god awful on COVID

but we lost the Lt Gov race to a deranged nobody, lost seats on the NC house, might have lost 3 supreme court seats nearly certainly lost 2, lost 5 appellate court seats, and lost state superintendent despite the last GOP person being so bad his own party rejected his run for Lt Gov to the aforementioned deranged nobody.

[Jspur]

21. The Democrats should run Governor Cooper in '22 for Burr's Senate Seat.

Cooper is very popular down here and I think would have a great chance at knocking out Burr.

[dsc]

32. He can't now because of who are Lt Gov is

we would have a certifiable nut as Gov if he did.

[Jspur]

46. Yes I know I had this debate with my friend the other

day. If Cooper loses he should be able to retain his Governorship. Obviously if he wins we will be stuck with this weirdo Uncle Tom gun nut being the governor. It's a tough choice but it helps us get a senate majority in '22 we might have to consider it for the good of the country. It's not easy decision with the republicans control locally our 2 chambers of government and they would have no checks with our Lt. Governor taking over.

[dsc]

48. I would literally have to leave the state

as gay teachers would be purged if Robinson were governor

[Jspur]

49. Pardon my ignorance but what do you mean by purged?

I think even Cooper completes his whole entire second term we are in a bad situation with the republicans still having control over both chambers of state government. Cooper can stop them for now but we pretty much have to had a democrat win the govern-ship of NC in both '24 and '28 or we pretty much fucked as a state. So your time might be very limited in NC. It might be limited for me and I'm not even gay but I don't think I can endure another Mccrory like governor like we did from '12-'16. The republicans want to govern this state like it's a hardcore red state in the mold of Alabama when it isn't.

[octoberlib]

35. Jeff Jackson should run for Burr's seat. Cooper's term isn't up

until 2024.

[blm]

37. I think that is his intention.

I really wanted hm to take down Tillis, though.

[octoberlib]

38. Yep and he would've.

Recurring nightmare Pat McCrory has been making noises that he's interested in running for it.

[Celerity]

23. I was saying in 2019 and beyond that Cunningham was weak, and that Anthony Foxx or Josh Stein

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would have won. That was WAYYYYY before the sexting shite. Cunningham is now a 2 time Senate campaign loser, 3 if you count the sex scandal. another poster mentioned another better candidate than Cunningham, Jeff Jackson (State Senator who just won re-election.)

Link to tweet

https://www.jeffjacksonnc.com/

[Upthevibe]

29. Celerity....

Thanks for this information about the candidates. Too bad that there were others that were stronger that didn't make it through the primary.

[blm]

36. Jackson didn't run, but, if he had Cunningham wouldn't have.

[Celerity]

41. It wasn't just NC, in 10 of the 13 races that were remotely flippable, we did NOT have the strongest

candidate. I warned for ages that Schumer and Cortez Masto did a terrible recruiting job)

The 3 where we did run the best, we won two of three, CO and AZ, and lost in MT, partial due to Bullock being cash starved due and unable to counter 50m in late RW adverts ludicrously calling him a commie, as people pissed away over 300 million on three fantasyland races, TX and KY and SC, some of which should have went to aid Bullock, who was left helpless after leading for a good chunk of the race, and was an extremely popular 2 term governor in a red, red state. Until the last 2 or 3 weeks, I thought he would win. Gutted he did not. I maxed out to his campaign. Daines is moronic POS, one of the 5 least intelligent Senators, along with Ernst, Hyde-Smith, Ron Johnson, and Blackburn. All 5 are low, low intellect cretins.

the other 10

NC (Foxx, Stein, Jackson, all far better than Cunningham, even without the sexting scandal)
GA Reg (Stacey Abrams or Sally Yates) we still may win and Abrams did huge lifting in other ways, so not irate with her at all
GA Spec (Abrams or Yates) we still may win, let's all hope so
IA (Vilsack (very popular 2 term governor and also 8 years as US Sec of Agriculture) or Cindy Axne would have been better than the weak Greenfield)
ME (Rice would have been far better than Gideon, same for Hannah Pingree, Chellie Pingree's daughter and also the ex speaker of the Maine House, the youngest one ever, and also better would have been US Dem House rep Jared Golden from ME-2, who won re-election in a district Trump carried again with ease. All three would have taken out Collins IMHO. Wild card. Stephen King, who was thinking about it, and decided not to. Also Chellie Pingree herself.)
TN (Open seat, Tim McGraw has now twice, in 2018, when he likely would have won, and then 2020 turned down OPEN seat races after promising he would run, so angry at him, especially for 2018, Blackburn was a nutter and with the Blue Wave McGraw would have taken her out IMHO, instead we ran the fossil re-tread Bredesen, who blue himself up the first month of the campaign by saying he would have supported and voted for the drunky-rapey Kavanaugh, the exact same thing McGrath did too, to disastrous effect for both of them)
KS (Open seat Sibelius was not only the only Dem who could have won, she likely would have won, it was the opinion of the major Kansas newspapers, even though RWNJ Kobach lost the primary, Marshall was weak. Very mad at her for refusing to run)

and the three reaches

AK (ex US Senator Begich refused to run, and we did not even field a candidate, instead indie Al Gross ran)
TX (Beto looked at Cornyn and passed, Hegar was weak)
KY (Andy Beshear would have been best, but he ran and won Governor. Booker would have been stronger than McGrath IMHO, and if the primary was 2 to 4 weeks later, he who have beaten her, she bollocks it from the start by saying she would have supported and voted for Kavanaugh, smdh. Adkins, Conway, and Steve Beshear (Andy's father and an ex governor would have done better as well, IMHO)

[dsc]

33. Stein very nearly lost his AG race

so I am not so sure he would have won either.

[Celerity]

42. I think Jeff Jackson should be the front runner for 2022 (open seat, Burr is retiring)

[dsc]

43. Jackson has been impressive.

I think geographically if we could get an eastern NC person that would be the best. I know Butterfield was elected statewide at one point but that was in a non partisan Supreme Court race. Honestly, I don't know if we have any eastern NC people left to run. But it seems they have been our most successful people. Hunt, Cooper for example.

[Aepps22]

40. Picking the Right Candidate

I'm not from NC but it seems like this is the classic example of the wrong candidate getting pushed forward. Cal is a two time loser and a scumbag. We know the same rules don't apply to the Deplorables but we need the right candidates to get pushed forward. I think about how we picked up seats in Colorado and although Colorado is probably a blue state now, it wasn't always that way but we've been fortunate to have the right people run for the right positions. Hick was a great Mayor and a great Governor. Him joining the senate race pretty much assured us that we would get Cory Gardner out. I liked Hick's primary opponent in Andrew R. but I don't think we get the win as easily if Hick doesn't drop his presidential bid and took up the senate opportunity.

[Jspur]

47. Don't know much about this guy but judging by the pictures he looks marketable and has a good

looking family. Obviously that helps a lot in politics but I will have to research him to get a good feel if he can win.

[LAS14]

39. Not upsetting! A shining example of how real Americans should behave when they lose. nt

[XanaDUer2]

44. I donated money

supported this asshole, and knew it was all for nothing when the sex scandal broke. I'm pissed