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It's Wild That Trump Supporters ... (Original Post) ItsjustMe Nov 2020 OP
It's obvious that to be a Trumpette you must live in an alternate Boomerproud Nov 2020 #1
They do TrogL Nov 2020 #9
It's a religion. It's the Church of Trump. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #14
nicely said hkp11 Nov 2020 #18
They have been saying the COVID-19 was a hoax and it would disappear soon as the election was doc03 Nov 2020 #2
The usual... ignore and lie. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #10
I had one tell me that everyone would drop the subject right after Biden's inauguration. mwb970 Nov 2020 #11
Oh it got a 70 day extension. Well at least he accepts Trump is leaving. nt doc03 Nov 2020 #12
Small comfort. calimary Nov 2020 #15
at first Drumpf says it's a democratic hoax hkp11 Nov 2020 #19
This is the maddening, seemingly hopeless heart of the problem. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #3
If tRumpers could be reasoned with, they wouldn't be tRumpers. lastlib Nov 2020 #4
Which really sums it up. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2020 #7
You can lead them to knowledge, but you can't make them think! Marcuse Nov 2020 #5
Very nice 😁 PutGramaOnThePhone Nov 2020 #13
This deserves its own OP! n/t RockCreek Nov 2020 #16
nice follow-through! bringthePaine Nov 2020 #6
It's all about the messages they hear and believe. See my post on FOX. nt Boogiemack Nov 2020 #8
That is pretty screwed up! Soxfan58 Nov 2020 #17
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2020 #20

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
14. It's a religion. It's the Church of Trump.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:10 AM
Nov 2020

Trump leads with a presumption of infallibility. He can never be wrong, he always tells the truth. He's the leader of white supremacy movements. He was chosen by God to lead this nation out of a mixed race rule. Diversity, to Trumpers, is what's destroying the nation. And Trump will save all of them from certain ruin.

In other words, Trump leads a faction of the population that wants white rule, and wants non-whites segregated into second class status. One of the facets of emerging fascism is the ability of its leaders to use a network of lies to dull the edges of murderous intent so that their rule becomes more palatable to those more prone to equivocate, to those willing to tolerate the removal of civil liberties for those who aren't white for the promised stability and economic fortune that comes with being a privileged "race" of white descendants.

What is utterly stunning is that so many millions do not understand that there is nothing inherently special about being white. It's all made up so that those who want power over others can obtain it. It's always been a ploy, a lie, that nazi Germany employed to near-perfection. But a lie nonetheless. The mystique of white supremacy must be elevated to the level of a religion for all of it to work. White supremacy must be an article of faith for white power leaders to bully their way into authoritative positions. That's how fascism works.

hkp11

(275 posts)
18. nicely said
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:31 AM
Nov 2020

it's been flooding Europe and other regions as well. During Nazi time, there was no social media to tell lies. This is spreading like wildfire around the globe - and easily manipulating people to that viewpoint - white privilege is superior, whites should not be denied their superior rights, and should be above all others. How do you stop this social media lying revolution?

doc03

(35,299 posts)
2. They have been saying the COVID-19 was a hoax and it would disappear soon as the election was
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 08:49 AM
Nov 2020

over. It is still there and getting worse every day what excuse can they use now?

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
10. The usual... ignore and lie.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:39 AM
Nov 2020

Many of them can never admit being wrong, so they might get creative with conspiracy theories too.

"It WAS a hoax, but then (insert craziness here)."

calimary

(81,126 posts)
15. Small comfort.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:14 AM
Nov 2020

Dear God! We HAVE TO do something about the GOP/CON message machinery. Pox Noise and hate radio.

Re-regulation is one way. Ownership restrictions - to reinstate. The Fairness Doctrine to restore.

At one time this country supposedly rejected corporate monopolies and broke them up. Theodore Roosevelt was even hailed as “the Trust Buster.” I remember an assignment in grade school history class, where my answer was to draw a cartoon of “The Trust Buster.” I drew him punching out a big placard that had “TRUSTS” written on it.

hkp11

(275 posts)
19. at first Drumpf says it's a democratic hoax
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:35 AM
Nov 2020

and it was going to go away. Then he got it, and suddenly, it's real, not a democratic hoax. With this news, why can't his followers question that it was a hoax, and now it's real, and logically theorize that it was lie initially - should i believe Drumpf - should be the logical question and additional questions should arise. But no, logic is thrown out the window.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
3. This is the maddening, seemingly hopeless heart of the problem.
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:05 AM
Nov 2020

They do not respond to or even grasp logical argument. And, as they'll insist--you can't make them!

They just want to believe what they believe. I saw this belligerent ignorance growing over the years in my classroom. Increasingly students would reject conclusive, logical, legitimate argument saying that they were entitled to their "opinion."

Explanations that "opinions" were reserved for subjective issues, such as what flavor ice cream was tastiest, the bestvstyle of architecture or the greatest song ever written, were taken on board at first, but less & less so over the years.

Over time, the parents began to make complaints that their children's freedoms were being violated by teachers trying to force the children to reason.

It was so distressing because many of us just knew it was leading to Trumpusm & Trump, though, obviously not by that name.

I'd like the people blaming "the education system" for this lack of logical thinking skills to understand this. The parents control the education system. And the worst ones are always the most vocal agitators. Remind you of anyone?

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