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patricia92243

(12,591 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:29 AM Nov 2020

"Martial law involves the temporary substitution of military authority for civilian rule".....

"Martial law involves the temporary substitution of military authority for civilian rule and is usually invoked in time of war, rebellion, or NATURAL DISASTER."

NATURAL DISASTER = Covid??

Trump is being underestimated again - at our own peril. Thinking that he is moving the Pentagon personnel around just to spite Biden is foolish.

He is a ruthless madman who won't stop at anything to not be a loser.

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"Martial law involves the temporary substitution of military authority for civilian rule"..... (Original Post) patricia92243 Nov 2020 OP
He can swap civilian pencil pushers all day long and it won't matter Chainfire Nov 2020 #1
In the US, we don't get martial law where the courts are functional struggle4progress Nov 2020 #2
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!! dware Nov 2020 #4
Not going to happen!!!! dware Nov 2020 #3
Trump does not have the military on his side. There will be no coup because of this octoberlib Nov 2020 #5
I have faith in military leadership to uphold their sworn duties beachbumbob Nov 2020 #6
Hoping General Milley is as strong as Smedley Butler UpInArms Nov 2020 #7
Sorry to burst another bubble but T can fire JCOS at will. hedda_foil Nov 2020 #8
Thanks UpInArms Nov 2020 #9
I would say its more likely the military would stage a temporary coup to remove Trump.. honest.abe Nov 2020 #10
That could never happen here! Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #11

Chainfire

(17,456 posts)
1. He can swap civilian pencil pushers all day long and it won't matter
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:43 AM
Nov 2020

Unless the Generals and Admirals participate in a military coup against their country. I don't see it.

dware

(12,249 posts)
3. Not going to happen!!!!
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:49 AM
Nov 2020

The Military leaders have made it crystal clear that the military in no way will get involved in the election, and I suspect that President Elect Joe Biden has already talked to the JCoS and reminded them that their oath is to the Constitution, not the President.

UpInArms

(51,279 posts)
7. Hoping General Milley is as strong as Smedley Butler
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 09:58 AM
Nov 2020
Mark Milley
Mark Alexander Milley is a United States Army general and the 20th Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. As Chairman, he is the highest-ranking and most senior military officer in the United States Armed Forces. He previously served as the 39th Chief of Staff of the United States Army.


Smedley Butler

In November 1934, Butler claimed the existence of a political conspiracy by business leaders to overthrow President Roosevelt, a series of allegations that came to be known in the media as the Business Plot.[64][65] A special committee of the House of Representatives headed by Representatives John W. McCormack of Massachusetts and Samuel Dickstein of New York, who was later alleged to have been a paid agent of the NKVD,[66] heard his testimony in secret.[67] The McCormack–Dickstein committee was a precursor to the House Committee on Un-American Activities.[citation needed]

In November 1934, Butler told the committee that one Gerald P. MacGuire told him that a group of businessmen, supposedly backed by a private army of 500,000 ex-soldiers and others, intended to establish a fascist dictatorship. Butler had been asked to lead it, he said, by MacGuire, who was a bond salesman with Grayson M–P Murphy & Co. The New York Times reported that Butler had told friends that General Hugh S. Johnson, former head of the National Recovery Administration, was to be installed as dictator, and that the J.P. Morgan banking firm was behind the plot. Butler told Congress that MacGuire had told him the attempted coup was backed by three million dollars, and that the 500,000 men were probably to be assembled in Washington, D.C. the following year. All the parties alleged to be involved publicly said there was no truth in the story, calling it a joke and a fantasy.[67]

In its report to the House, the committee stated that, while "no evidence was presented... to show a connection... with any fascist activity of any European country... [t]here was no question that these attempts were discussed, were planned, and might have been placed in execution..." and that "your committee was able to verify all the pertinent statements made by General Butler, with the exception of the direct statement about the creation of the organisation. This, however, was corroborated in the correspondence of MacGuire with his principal, Robert Sterling Clark...."[68]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

honest.abe

(8,610 posts)
10. I would say its more likely the military would stage a temporary coup to remove Trump..
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 10:57 AM
Nov 2020

than participate in any kind of martial law to protect Trump.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
11. That could never happen here!
Wed Nov 11, 2020, 11:08 AM
Nov 2020

Oh, wait... it already did.

Military leaders, including Patton and MacArthur, lead troops to attack protesting civilians who were WW1 vets.



https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2020/07/15/the-1932-bonus-army-black-and-white-americans-unite-in-march-on-washington/

Thinking it was a parade in their honor, the veterans clapped and cheered. To their horror, they soon realized the military was there to attack them. Wielding bayonets, 400 infantry marched behind the cavalry. Without warning, they donned gas masks and lobbed gas grenades. Armored tanks brought up the rear. As protesters and onlookers fled the fumes, troops set fire to shanties lining the streets. That evening, President Hoover sent an envoy with the command that MacArthur chose to ignore—do not pursue the fleeing protesters over the bridge to their settlements in Anacostia.

President Hoover, in the midst of a reelection campaign, tried to explain the use of military force against the veterans as necessary to prevent “further bloodshed among the bonus marchers and the police, and possibly innocent bystanders.” But the government’s use of the military to attack its own veterans shook the nation. These men, like many of their fellow citizens, were down on their luck, asking the nation they had served for help in a time of need. “I voted for Herbert Hoover in 1928,” a reader wrote to the Washington Daily News. “God forgive me and keep me alive at least till the polls open next November!”




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