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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere we go already: "After worshiping Trump voters, New York Times flips the script on Biden voters"
For four years, the Times flooded its newspaper and website with endless updates on Trump voters and how much his white, working class supporters inside Midwest diners love him and will never question him. That coverage has been relentless, and has become a running joke on Twitter among critics who laugh every time the daily posts another carbon copy Trump voter story.
But here we are, less than one week after Biden's declared victory, and what's the angle to the Times' first front-page Biden Voter story? It's most definitely not about how much his supporters love and admire him and will stand by him. It's about how his supporters are leery of him and aren't sure Biden will deliver on his promises.
Right on schedule, the daily has ripped up its Trump voter playbook and is suggesting Biden's backing is soft, even among his most ardent supporters Black voters. It's an absurd about-face for the Times.
"Black Voters Helped Deliver Biden a Presidential Victory. Now What?" read the Wednesday headline, delivering a dose of cold water for the Democrat. Insisting his supporters were "skeptical" of Biden, "not excited," and questioned his "sincerity," the Times framed the story of Biden Black voters in a deeply unusual manner.
https://pressrun.media/p/after-worshiping-trump-voters-new
mcar
(42,307 posts)NYT has to push "Dems in disarray."
Botany
(70,501 posts)BTW When it came out that there was nothing to the HRC/email/server story
the NY Times put it on page 16.
still_one
(92,183 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)dalton99a
(81,465 posts)(as long as they don't investigate Amazon)
still_one
(92,183 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Since Trump is a bust and they've made their cash haul, Times jumps in to pick the last scrapings of profit available.
Division sells.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)objective or pro-truth is deluded.
Judith Miller - the NYT helped spread Cheneys disinformation that led us into the war against Saddam.
Maureen Dowd - a personal vendetta to take down Hillary in 2016
Whitewater - the NYT was the primary cheerleader attacking the Clintons in that nothing burger
Fuck the NYT.
dalton99a
(81,465 posts)which they loudly announced to the world and continued to exploit throughout the 2016 campaign
Spazito
(50,325 posts)Maggie Haberman, another journalist who used to work for the New York Post and Politico, enough said. Her columns were written to normalize trump and his enablers, imo.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)come out in time for the 2022 midterms!
Spazito
(50,325 posts)she will continue to soften his profile while being contemptuous of any and all Democrats. Her mother, Nancy Haberman, has done PR communications for Donald Trump and I am sure Maggie will continue to use her mother's contacts to polish trump and his enablers in time for the midterms.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)How shocking!
Spazito
(50,325 posts)I would never have guessed!
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Frank Rich and Dowd were constantly attacking Gore. One reporter even changed what Gore said about Love canal so they could attack him.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)Zoonart
(11,855 posts)Lazy, dug in, privileged journalist class.
dalton99a
(81,465 posts)mtnsnake
(22,236 posts)How soon some people forget...
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)I remind myself of their exposes on Trump's taxes, Rupert Murdoch, and their story about Rod Rosenstein offering to wear a wire, which I thought was BS and wrote two blistering letters to them, only to find out it was probably true. They also played a determinative role in inspiring and helping Mary Trump to write her book, one of the true literary/psychological/political gems of the last four years.
I just can't do it, because they've done so much important work. YES, they annoy me frequently. But on balance, it's one of the best.
Ninga
(8,275 posts)out what Eric Boehlert has written by citing the numbers of articles written about trump supporters v Obama, etc.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)their muckraking on Whitewater. Their attacks on Al Gore. Label Obama as Obambi. And their misinformation about Clintons emails.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Mystery sage
(576 posts)Can't believe I agree with trump on this one.
UpInArms
(51,282 posts)Judith Miller ... Iraq war monger
Ken Vogel ... Ukraine propagandist
...
Anyone thinking the NYTs is decent needs to have their memories checked
NYTs Ken Vogel Gets Dragged for Pushing Debunked Joe Biden Ukraine Story
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)voted for "anyone but trump" more than for JB himself. But in the last couple of weeks post-election - WOW. The man has stepped up to the plate in a way I didnt know he had in him. He is really the right person for this moment.
Bettie
(16,095 posts)listened to people that I assumed he'd ignore.
He seems to be willing to do what needs to be done, even if it isn't what he had planned.
He was about my 10th choice, but I live in Iowa, so there are many, many choices.
JohnQFunk
(409 posts)still_one
(92,183 posts)crickets
(25,964 posts)It's not that they have to take a 'side.' I wish they wouldn't. But they do takes sides, often different sides on the same day depending on the author of the piece being read. The paper lacks the leadership of a strong and consistent editor at the top - Dean Baquet just does not get the job done. Since the NYT is capable of brilliant journalism and still delivers on occasion, I do read it often, but with a somewhat jaundiced eye.
still_one
(92,183 posts)liberal_mama
(1,495 posts)but their political articles are often annoying.
DeminPennswoods
(15,285 posts)members. I did and they sure are not your "same old, same old" group.
spanone
(135,829 posts)betsuni
(25,475 posts)and bad outcomes, get mad at them for not being perfect and not being able to tell the future. Negativity, always negativity.
DFW
(54,369 posts)"So, we endorsed Biden. He won. Should we go after Trump for refusing to concede?"
"Naah, that's so pre-election. Why should Biden get a free ride? Let's go after him now."
"For what? He hasn't picked a cabinet. He hasn't even gotten Trump's concession yet. What do we bash him for?"
"Well, he hasn't cured Covid-19, poverty or cancer. Doesn't that tall you something?"
"You're right. His coalition is falling apart already. He's a lame duck before he even hatched. No mercy."
"So, what are you waiting for? Tear him to pieces. The 2024 primaries aren't THAT far off."
"What about the 2022 mid-term elections? Don't they matter?"
"Midterms, schmidtterms. They don't matter. Not even Black Lives matter any more. That was last month. The NYT is not a fan club. Go get him!"
Augiedog
(2,545 posts)SayItLoud
(1,702 posts)FB, Twitter and the subscription department.
NoMoreRepugs
(9,417 posts)NoBiasMyAssNYTimes.
Mary Mac
(323 posts)BarbD
(1,192 posts)I live in Fairfield, Connecticut so my choices of print media are limited. The local paper is published weekly. The Hartford Courant has a good sports section for the UCONN Huskies, but its online paper sucks. When Sandy Hook happened, I got the most in-depth reporting from the NY Times. They cover the Tri-State area quite well.
TV: For local weather you can't beat Channel 12. For news I depend on Nicole, Joy, Chris, Rachel, Lawrence and Ali.
The New Yorker has great articles and, of course the cartoons are legendary. I also subscribe to "Free Inquiry", a humanist publication
I slogged through the first part of the Mueller Report, enjoyed "Blowout". "A Very Stable Genius" and Mary Trump's book among others. Because I need balance in my reading. I am an avid reader, I must admit to more than an occasional foray into John Grisham, Carl Hiaasen, Jayne Ann Krentz and re-reading Louis L'Amour.
But the one place I depend upon is DU. It is here where I believe the truth can be found.
maxsolomon
(33,323 posts)And their disdain for the GOP is seeping into the "straight reporting".
Try this one one on for size, if you can get past the paywall: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/world/europe/trump-autocrats-dictators.html
Stop expecting them to be Rachel Maddow in print form.