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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 10:55 AM Nov 2020

Here we go already: "After worshiping Trump voters, New York Times flips the script on Biden voters"

Joe Biden hasn't even been president-elect for one week and already the New York Times is claiming on its front page that the Democrat might have a problem among his most loyal supporters. It's a stunning turn-around from how the Times has cheered and promoted Trump voters, detailing their adoration for the GOP leader.

For four years, the Times flooded its newspaper and website with endless updates on Trump voters and how much his white, working class supporters inside Midwest diners love him and will never question him. That coverage has been relentless, and has become a running joke on Twitter among critics who laugh every time the daily posts another carbon copy Trump voter story.

But here we are, less than one week after Biden's declared victory, and what's the angle to the Times' first front-page Biden Voter story? It's most definitely not about how much his supporters love and admire him and will stand by him. It's about how his supporters are leery of him and aren't sure Biden will deliver on his promises.

Right on schedule, the daily has ripped up its Trump voter playbook and is suggesting Biden's backing is soft, even among his most ardent supporters— Black voters. It's an absurd about-face for the Times.

"Black Voters Helped Deliver Biden a Presidential Victory. Now What?" read the Wednesday headline, delivering a dose of cold water for the Democrat. Insisting his supporters were "skeptical" of Biden, "not excited," and questioned his "sincerity," the Times framed the story of Biden Black voters in a deeply unusual manner.

https://pressrun.media/p/after-worshiping-trump-voters-new
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Here we go already: "After worshiping Trump voters, New York Times flips the script on Biden voters" (Original Post) StarfishSaver Nov 2020 OP
Typical mcar Nov 2020 #1
Liberal media? Botany Nov 2020 #2
After what they did to Hillary, is why I subscribe to the Washington Post still_one Nov 2020 #3
Next on this list for the NYT - Dem Progressives empedocles Nov 2020 #6
+1. Bezos is a greedy sweatshop owner, but he leaves the WP alone dalton99a Nov 2020 #15
That is exactly right. Bezos takes pains not interfere with how the WP is run still_one Nov 2020 #16
+1, and didn't he show up at a Jarvanka party !?!? These people are shameless uponit7771 Nov 2020 #22
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2020 #21
Inciting division. Even when Democracy is under threat there are those who simply see profit Budi Nov 2020 #4
I stopped reading the Times years ago. Anyone who thinks that paper is pro-D stopbush Nov 2020 #5
+1. And their most recent Greatest Hit: THE HILLARY EMAILS dalton99a Nov 2020 #13
Adding to your list... Spazito Nov 2020 #18
And - joy and rapture unforeseen - she's writing a book on tRump, timed to stopbush Nov 2020 #20
Yep, no surprise there... Spazito Nov 2020 #23
She just announced she has a book coming out StarfishSaver Nov 2020 #26
Lol, yep... Spazito Nov 2020 #27
Don't forget 2000 Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #43
bothsideserism for maximum $ale$ NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #7
Rinse Repeat. Zoonart Nov 2020 #8
All the Bothsiderism That's Fit to Print. dalton99a Nov 2020 #9
Oh for gods sake, so now we're supposed to throw the NYT under the bus because of an article or two? mtnsnake Nov 2020 #10
You know, every time I'm tempted to end my subscription to the NYT Mike 03 Nov 2020 #14
I agree. Maybe we need the collected effort of NYT critics to write letters to the editor pointing Ninga Nov 2020 #28
Yes some forget about Dem4Life1102 Nov 2020 #44
Well, search "What progressives expect from Biden" or something similar and see what pops up. Hoyt Nov 2020 #11
The failing times Mystery sage Nov 2020 #12
New York Times... UpInArms Nov 2020 #17
"is suggesting Biden's backing is soft" BASED ON WHAT??? I'm sure Im not the only one who Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2020 #19
I agree that he has stepped up and Bettie Nov 2020 #25
My bumper sticker says it all JohnQFunk Nov 2020 #24
Not quite, but they go out of their bothsiderism way when it doesn't apply still_one Nov 2020 #29
This. These days it's a paper with an identity problem, exemplified by the article linked above. crickets Nov 2020 #32
Perfectly stated. Thanks still_one Nov 2020 #40
I like to read the human interest stories and some of the opinion pieces in the New York Times, liberal_mama Nov 2020 #30
Then these Dems should read the list of Biden transition team DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #31
I dumped the Times in January for the WaPo. I have never looked back. spanone Nov 2020 #33
Because of the rule: Never give Democrats the benefit of the doubt, always assume bad intentions betsuni Nov 2020 #34
Meeting of the NYT editorial board DFW Nov 2020 #35
Fuck the NYT, they are often as delusional and dopey as the orange anus they so love. Augiedog Nov 2020 #36
You know how to let them know your feelings: SayItLoud Nov 2020 #37
I'm surprised it took this long. Unless Biden&Harris had won 99 to 1 u knew this was coming. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2020 #38
When my Times subscription expires, I may switch to Boston Globe or LA Times Mary Mac Nov 2020 #39
Where do you get your news? BarbD Nov 2020 #41
On balance, they are Centrist. They fucking hate Trump. Hate. maxsolomon Nov 2020 #42
Oligarchs love tax cuts for the filthy rich. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #45

Botany

(70,501 posts)
2. Liberal media?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:03 AM
Nov 2020


BTW When it came out that there was nothing to the HRC/email/server story
the NY Times put it on page 16.

dalton99a

(81,465 posts)
15. +1. Bezos is a greedy sweatshop owner, but he leaves the WP alone
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:19 AM
Nov 2020

(as long as they don't investigate Amazon)


 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. Inciting division. Even when Democracy is under threat there are those who simply see profit
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:05 AM
Nov 2020

Since Trump is a bust and they've made their cash haul, Times jumps in to pick the last scrapings of profit available.

Division sells.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
5. I stopped reading the Times years ago. Anyone who thinks that paper is pro-D
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:05 AM
Nov 2020

objective or pro-truth is deluded.

Judith Miller - the NYT helped spread Cheney’s disinformation that led us into the war against Saddam.

Maureen Dowd - a personal vendetta to take down Hillary in 2016

Whitewater - the NYT was the primary cheerleader attacking the Clintons in that nothing burger

Fuck the NYT.

dalton99a

(81,465 posts)
13. +1. And their most recent Greatest Hit: THE HILLARY EMAILS
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:14 AM
Nov 2020

which they loudly announced to the world and continued to exploit throughout the 2016 campaign


Spazito

(50,325 posts)
18. Adding to your list...
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:28 AM
Nov 2020

Maggie Haberman, another journalist who used to work for the New York Post and Politico, enough said. Her columns were written to normalize trump and his enablers, imo.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
20. And - joy and rapture unforeseen - she's writing a book on tRump, timed to
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:31 AM
Nov 2020

come out in time for the 2022 midterms!

Spazito

(50,325 posts)
23. Yep, no surprise there...
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:41 AM
Nov 2020

she will continue to soften his profile while being contemptuous of any and all Democrats. Her mother, Nancy Haberman, has done PR communications for Donald Trump and I am sure Maggie will continue to use her mother's contacts to polish trump and his enablers in time for the midterms.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
43. Don't forget 2000
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:21 PM
Nov 2020

Frank Rich and Dowd were constantly attacking Gore. One reporter even changed what Gore said about Love canal so they could attack him.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
10. Oh for gods sake, so now we're supposed to throw the NYT under the bus because of an article or two?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:09 AM
Nov 2020

How soon some people forget...

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
14. You know, every time I'm tempted to end my subscription to the NYT
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:17 AM
Nov 2020

I remind myself of their exposes on Trump's taxes, Rupert Murdoch, and their story about Rod Rosenstein offering to wear a wire, which I thought was BS and wrote two blistering letters to them, only to find out it was probably true. They also played a determinative role in inspiring and helping Mary Trump to write her book, one of the true literary/psychological/political gems of the last four years.

I just can't do it, because they've done so much important work. YES, they annoy me frequently. But on balance, it's one of the best.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
28. I agree. Maybe we need the collected effort of NYT critics to write letters to the editor pointing
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:09 PM
Nov 2020

out what Eric Boehlert has written by citing the numbers of articles written about trump supporters v Obama, etc.

 

Dem4Life1102

(3,974 posts)
44. Yes some forget about
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:23 PM
Nov 2020

their muckraking on Whitewater. Their attacks on Al Gore. Label Obama as Obambi. And their misinformation about Clinton’s emails.

UpInArms

(51,282 posts)
17. New York Times...
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:27 AM
Nov 2020

Judith Miller ... Iraq war monger

Ken Vogel ... Ukraine propagandist

...

Anyone thinking the NYTs is decent needs to have their memories checked

NYT’s Ken Vogel Gets Dragged for Pushing Debunked Joe Biden Ukraine Story

For most of the non-Ken Vogels in the media, the story here is a potential White House cover-up of a gross abuse of power.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
19. "is suggesting Biden's backing is soft" BASED ON WHAT??? I'm sure Im not the only one who
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:28 AM
Nov 2020

voted for "anyone but trump" more than for JB himself. But in the last couple of weeks post-election - WOW. The man has stepped up to the plate in a way I didnt know he had in him. He is really the right person for this moment.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
25. I agree that he has stepped up and
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 11:53 AM
Nov 2020

listened to people that I assumed he'd ignore.

He seems to be willing to do what needs to be done, even if it isn't what he had planned.

He was about my 10th choice, but I live in Iowa, so there are many, many choices.

crickets

(25,964 posts)
32. This. These days it's a paper with an identity problem, exemplified by the article linked above.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:07 PM
Nov 2020

It's not that they have to take a 'side.' I wish they wouldn't. But they do takes sides, often different sides on the same day depending on the author of the piece being read. The paper lacks the leadership of a strong and consistent editor at the top - Dean Baquet just does not get the job done. Since the NYT is capable of brilliant journalism and still delivers on occasion, I do read it often, but with a somewhat jaundiced eye.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
30. I like to read the human interest stories and some of the opinion pieces in the New York Times,
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:43 PM
Nov 2020

but their political articles are often annoying.

DeminPennswoods

(15,285 posts)
31. Then these Dems should read the list of Biden transition team
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 12:48 PM
Nov 2020

members. I did and they sure are not your "same old, same old" group.

betsuni

(25,475 posts)
34. Because of the rule: Never give Democrats the benefit of the doubt, always assume bad intentions
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:15 PM
Nov 2020

and bad outcomes, get mad at them for not being perfect and not being able to tell the future. Negativity, always negativity.

DFW

(54,369 posts)
35. Meeting of the NYT editorial board
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:20 PM
Nov 2020

"So, we endorsed Biden. He won. Should we go after Trump for refusing to concede?"

"Naah, that's so pre-election. Why should Biden get a free ride? Let's go after him now."

"For what? He hasn't picked a cabinet. He hasn't even gotten Trump's concession yet. What do we bash him for?"

"Well, he hasn't cured Covid-19, poverty or cancer. Doesn't that tall you something?"

"You're right. His coalition is falling apart already. He's a lame duck before he even hatched. No mercy."

"So, what are you waiting for? Tear him to pieces. The 2024 primaries aren't THAT far off."

"What about the 2022 mid-term elections? Don't they matter?"

"Midterms, schmidtterms. They don't matter. Not even Black Lives matter any more. That was last month. The NYT is not a fan club. Go get him!"

NoMoreRepugs

(9,417 posts)
38. I'm surprised it took this long. Unless Biden&Harris had won 99 to 1 u knew this was coming.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:56 PM
Nov 2020

NoBiasMyAssNYTimes.

BarbD

(1,192 posts)
41. Where do you get your news?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:19 PM
Nov 2020

I live in Fairfield, Connecticut so my choices of print media are limited. The local paper is published weekly. The Hartford Courant has a good sports section for the UCONN Huskies, but its online paper sucks. When Sandy Hook happened, I got the most in-depth reporting from the NY Times. They cover the Tri-State area quite well.

TV: For local weather you can't beat Channel 12. For news I depend on Nicole, Joy, Chris, Rachel, Lawrence and Ali.

The New Yorker has great articles and, of course the cartoons are legendary. I also subscribe to "Free Inquiry", a humanist publication

I slogged through the first part of the Mueller Report, enjoyed "Blowout". "A Very Stable Genius" and Mary Trump's book among others. Because I need balance in my reading. I am an avid reader, I must admit to more than an occasional foray into John Grisham, Carl Hiaasen, Jayne Ann Krentz and re-reading Louis L'Amour.

But the one place I depend upon is DU. It is here where I believe the truth can be found.

maxsolomon

(33,323 posts)
42. On balance, they are Centrist. They fucking hate Trump. Hate.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:15 PM
Nov 2020

And their disdain for the GOP is seeping into the "straight reporting".

Try this one one on for size, if you can get past the paywall: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/11/world/europe/trump-autocrats-dictators.html

Stop expecting them to be Rachel Maddow in print form.

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