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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:11 PM Nov 2020

An evidentiary hearing is about to begin in Arizona's Maricopa County in a suit involving the debunk


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Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
An evidentiary hearing is about to begin in Arizona's Maricopa County in a suit involving the debunked 'Sharpiegate' conspiracy, rebranded as 'Marking Device'-gate after the Trump campaign jumped in as a plaintiff.

Follow the live-tweet at @LawCrimeNews

Judge Kiley presses the Trump campaign:

Their solicitation of witnesses produced sworn affidavits that his own investigation determined were "clearly false," "spam as you put it."

The ones they could not prove were false, they submitted to the court.

Trump camp: "Correct."

Judge Kiley: "This is concerning."

"How is that a reliable process of gathering evidence?"

Langhofer insists: "We've excluded everything that has the indicia of unreliability."

Judge Kiley responds: That's not an indicia of trustworthiness of the remaining affidavits. That just shows you can't disprove what's asserted.





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An evidentiary hearing is about to begin in Arizona's Maricopa County in a suit involving the debunk (Original Post) soothsayer Nov 2020 OP
"That's not an indicia of trustworthiness" gratuitous Nov 2020 #1
Because the form had a CAPTCHA soothsayer Nov 2020 #2
Can someone explain what actually happened here? honest.abe Nov 2020 #3
From the ny post soothsayer Nov 2020 #5
Thanks! honest.abe Nov 2020 #10
Exactly soothsayer Nov 2020 #11
They're stupid argument goes like this madeup64 Nov 2020 #7
Thanks for this how would this be specific to Trump voters? honest.abe Nov 2020 #9
Hopefully @ABAesq takes a long hard look at @kory_langhofer, the face of subverting democracy. soothsayer Nov 2020 #4
Maricopa attorney throwing some shade.....lol Nevilledog Nov 2020 #6
If Sharpies produce bogus ballots, then all of tRump's executive order are bogus. KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2020 #8

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. "That's not an indicia of trustworthiness"
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:14 PM
Nov 2020

Shorter Judge Kiley: Don't bring that weak-ass shit into my courtroom!

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
2. Because the form had a CAPTCHA
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:20 PM
Nov 2020

Kory Langhofer

That's the name of the Trump campaign attorney insisting that those form-produced sworn affidavits are somehow reliable even though a subset of them were false.

Because the form had a CAPTCHA.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
3. Can someone explain what actually happened here?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:21 PM
Nov 2020

I really dont get it. They are claiming poll workers purposely gave Trump voters sharpies then threw out those votes because they used sharpies. This makes zero sense.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
5. From the ny post
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:25 PM
Nov 2020

Snip

Election officials on Wednesday calmed nervous Arizona voters who feared their votes weren’t counted because they used Sharpie markers to fill in ballots.

Sharpies were handed out at some poll locations, including ones in the Phoenix area, sparking concerns on social media that the markers would bleed through paper and not register on vote-counting machines, according to AZFamily.com.

But Erika Flores, spokesperson for the Maricopa County Elections Department, said three types of writing utensils — blue or black pens and Sharpies — are fine for filling in ballots, the local outlet reported.

“Did you know we use Sharpies in the Vote Centers so the ink doesn’t smudge as ballots are counted onsite? New offset columns on the ballots means bleed through won’t impact your vote!” the Maricopa County Elections Department tweeted.

madeup64

(257 posts)
7. They're stupid argument goes like this
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:45 PM
Nov 2020

The Sharpie bled through the paper and that caused the ballots not to be read by the machine they're fed through. That's their nonsense allegation. Another issue is a lot of people noticed on the website to check the status of your vote that it said cancelled. Well this is because a lot of people are signed up for the permanent early voting list and didn't realize that when you're signed up for that and you go vote in-person they cancel the vote that was mailed to you. So the combination of bleeding Sharpie and the cancelled votes equals fraud.
I live in Phoenix and I screwed up and I moved and I forgot to change my residential address. Well I did it two days before the deadline. So I actually got mailed two ballots as my mailing address has been a PO box for a while. So when I go online and look at my vote I have one that's says cancelled and then one that says accepted. The system automatically cancelled the first one because of my address change.

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