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Nevilledog

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Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:33 PM Nov 2020

Scottish Parliament focusing on Trump



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Thread: there's been interesting discussion in the Scottish Parliament this afternoon about the use of Unexplained Wealth Orders to investigate Donald Trump's deals to acquire his Scottish properties and ascertain the sources of the financing 1/
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Thread: there's been interesting discussion in the Scottish Parliament this afternoon about the use of Unexplained Wealth Orders to investigate Donald Trump's deals to acquire his Scottish properties and ascertain the sources of the financing 1/

.@patrickharvie said there is a need to "protect Scotland's good name from association with the toxic Trump brand" and highlighted "serious and long-standing concerns about Trump's business activities," both in Scotland and further afield 2/

Those concerns, he said, include evidence to Congress citing patterns of buying and selling thought suggestive of money laundering, and which drew particular attention to the golf courses in Scotland and Ireland. 3/

"The cause for concern is still growing," Mr Harvie told the parliament. "It's now reported that the Manhattan District Attorney's office is investigating the Trump Organisation's inflation of assets, and potential bank and insurance fraud." 4/

He added: "The Trump Organisation has been accused of repeatedly reporting fraudulent financial details to the US Office of Government Ethics, while reporting a different set of figures to the UK regulators in respect of the Trump golf courses here in Scotland." 5/

Turning to the issue of UWOs - he stressed that the Scottish Government is able to go to court and ask for an order so that it can "start getting answers," but said that so far, the government has refused to either confirm or deny that an investigation is underway. 6/

He added: "Now that Trump is set to lose immunity from prosecution in the US, he may finally be held to account there. Isn't it time that he's also held to account here? Isn't it time for answers from the Trump Organisation and for the Scottish Government to go to court?" 7/

Replying, First Minister @NicolaSturgeon said the decision on whether to pursue a UWO against Trump is one for prosecutors, not politicians - specifically, the Crown Office, which she said operated in a "right and proper" independent capacity from government ministers. 8/

She added: "I think everybody is prob well aware of my views about the soon to be former president, and my views are probably no different to ... many people across Scotland. The idea that I'd somehow try to protect him from due accountability I don't think holds much water." 9/

For what it's worth, my understanding of the UWO process is that it's the Scottish Government that can decide to go to court, under section 396A of the Proceeds of Crime Act 2002. The legislation doesn't seem to leave much room for ambiguity: legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/29/… ends/
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Scottish Parliament focusing on Trump (Original Post) Nevilledog Nov 2020 OP
Oh my... Spazito Nov 2020 #1
Don't fuck around with those Scots. grumpyduck Nov 2020 #2
Yes. SharonClark Nov 2020 #5
I just want to hear what names they're calling him! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2020 #3
Yeah, me too. grumpyduck Nov 2020 #9
I HAVE to put this here: demmiblue Nov 2020 #12
Thank you! Love it! Rhiannon12866 Nov 2020 #14
I think Trump better be careful what countries he visits when he no longer president. marie999 Nov 2020 #4
Somebody's gonna get Trump Mike 03 Nov 2020 #6
Yep. Trump is gonna get "got" by a whole handful of people. BComplex Nov 2020 #10
Great Scot! soothsayer Nov 2020 #7
"The best laid schemes o' mice an' men / Gang aft a-gley." soothsayer Nov 2020 #8
I hope he loses his properties pandr32 Nov 2020 #11
About time dalton99a Nov 2020 #13
A fitting end to the whole family. Jirel Nov 2020 #15
Full link to the Proceeds of Crime Act muriel_volestrangler Nov 2020 #16

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
10. Yep. Trump is gonna get "got" by a whole handful of people.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 01:53 PM
Nov 2020

Putin screwed trump to the wall when he made him president. Trump will probably never "get it" that putin screwed him so badly.

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
11. I hope he loses his properties
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 02:10 PM
Nov 2020

I may have a two-finger glass of Scotch later today and toast the Scots.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
16. Full link to the Proceeds of Crime Act
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 04:20 PM
Nov 2020
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/29/section/396A

396A Unexplained wealth orders

(1)The Court of Session may, on an application made by the Scottish Ministers, make an unexplained wealth order in respect of any property if the court is satisfied that each of the requirements for the making of the order is fulfilled.

(2)An application for an order must—
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