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dvduval

(260 posts)
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:42 PM Nov 2020

Georgia "fraud dept" calls saying vote changed to Biden

I've been hearing from a couple of friends and relatives in Georgia that they're getting calls from the fraud department saying their vote has been changed. Has anyone else heard anything like this?

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Georgia "fraud dept" calls saying vote changed to Biden (Original Post) dvduval Nov 2020 OP
. Squinch Nov 2020 #1
I LOLed greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #23
NO MFM008 Nov 2020 #2
trump has been Lying since 2015 & Before.. Cha Nov 2020 #15
Trump starting lying from his first words spoken as a toddler. Celerity Nov 2020 #21
And I get calls telling me the police are coming to arrest me Maeve Nov 2020 #3
Considering their is no record of who they voted Phoenix61 Nov 2020 #4
Thank you for supplying the logic. Merlot Nov 2020 #7
+1 Mike 03 Nov 2020 #10
Did the fraud dept. torius Nov 2020 #5
Was it John Baron? icwlmuscyia Nov 2020 #26
Wrong. No way that was Trump. Yavin4 Nov 2020 #44
Tell them they can avoid being bamboozled by hanging up Iris Nov 2020 #6
trump is a racist pig. stonecutter357 Nov 2020 #8
The Georgia Fraud Dept can Kiss my Ass jpak Nov 2020 #9
Do not stay silent kansasobama Nov 2020 #11
Ask them for evidence, or dismiss it as simply a lie. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #12
You don't even to think about it ... it's a lie. mr_lebowski Nov 2020 #16
More often than not, I presume ignorance over malice LanternWaste Nov 2020 #34
They called me too, while I was in the car driving dweller Nov 2020 #13
When der leader says the ntl guard called out in various states during the election removed Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #14
How would they even know? C_U_L8R Nov 2020 #17
Just trying to confirm dvduval Nov 2020 #18
You've never heard of fake calls? LisaL Nov 2020 #19
Her husband did a male and ballot? Ptah Nov 2020 #22
Bwahahaha@!!!@@@212211!! jpak Nov 2020 #24
Haha dvduval Nov 2020 #28
If this family member 'surely received a call', simply ask for the number and follow up on it. LanternWaste Nov 2020 #32
Trying to understand SunsetDreams2 Nov 2020 #42
Only family member dvduval Nov 2020 #48
An unnamed person from an unknown location made an unverifiable claim? Generic Brad Nov 2020 #45
The ballot is placed in a secrecy sleeve. Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #46
How in the hell would you know that? Bullshit. spanone Nov 2020 #20
..... Kingofalldems Nov 2020 #25
This is a Russian psyop. Things like this should not be posted. underthematrix Nov 2020 #27
Some people are saying. enki23 Nov 2020 #29
No you haven't Mr. Ected Nov 2020 #30
This has no more credibility than a Facebook meme. The Republican SoS says the election is legit. Flaleftist Nov 2020 #31
More info dvduval Nov 2020 #33
What you are alleging here is not allowed in GA. LisaL Nov 2020 #35
Agreed dvduval Nov 2020 #39
Simply ask for the phone number that called him LanternWaste Nov 2020 #36
Someone I know in Atlanta got one. KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #37
Thanks! dvduval Nov 2020 #40
Uh huh. Do tell. cwydro Nov 2020 #38
Probably same bunch that calls from India saying our Microsoft license has expired.... KY_EnviroGuy Nov 2020 #41
Jacob Wohl's robo-dialer is back in use. JDC Nov 2020 #43
A vote is private. cwydro Nov 2020 #47
I'm sure they can fix it too.... BGBD Nov 2020 #49
What fraud department? BainsBane Nov 2020 #50
Anybody who calls you and comes right out and tells you information that they shouldn't know Dem2 Nov 2020 #51

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
3. And I get calls telling me the police are coming to arrest me
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:44 PM
Nov 2020

The "fraud" is coming from the caller

on edit--there IS a Georgia Dept of Fraud, Waste and Abuse, but it has nothing to do with voting

kansasobama

(609 posts)
11. Do not stay silent
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:49 PM
Nov 2020

You need to inform Biden campaign, Democrats, and the police

I have committed many crimes according to these callers. I have committed tax fraud, social security fraud, voter fraud and what not. They have been threatening arrest for 6 years. Yeah right!

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Ask them for evidence, or dismiss it as simply a lie.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:50 PM
Nov 2020

Should be pretty easy for them to show you the number on their phone from which these alleged calls were made, and then simply call the number to see if the organization is credible. I imagine that in your sampling of "friends and relatives", at least one of them would not have an excuse why they are unable to provide it.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
16. You don't even to think about it ... it's a lie.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:52 PM
Nov 2020

They're trying to get stupid people to call the authorities and complain about how 'my vote got changed!!1!'.

So much stupid in this world I can't rule out that they've succeeded at least a few times.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
34. More often than not, I presume ignorance over malice
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:46 PM
Nov 2020

But then again, I'm too often disappointed when all signs point to both

dweller

(23,625 posts)
13. They called me too, while I was in the car driving
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:50 PM
Nov 2020

I glanced at my phone and it said ‘POTENTIAL SPAM’ was calling 😆
I drove on ...

✌🏻

Thekaspervote

(32,752 posts)
14. When der leader says the ntl guard called out in various states during the election removed
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:51 PM
Nov 2020

70k+ ballots..one would expect this crap

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
17. How would they even know?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 06:59 PM
Nov 2020

There should be massive penalties for filing false accusations about election fraud.

dvduval

(260 posts)
18. Just trying to confirm
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:12 PM
Nov 2020

My family member is believing this. Her husband did a male and ballot and they called and said there was something suspicious and his vote was changed or something. But I'm only going off this one story so I don't have enough to confirm. That being said, this relative wouldn't just lie. They surely received a call.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
32. If this family member 'surely received a call', simply ask for the number and follow up on it.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:43 PM
Nov 2020

Seems easy-peasey, George and Wheezie.

SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
42. Trying to understand
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:44 PM
Nov 2020

In your OP you said

”I’ve been hearing from a couple of friends and relatives in Georgia that they're getting calls from the fraud department saying their vote has been changed.”


Now it’s this?

“But I'm only going off this one storyso I don't have enough to confirm. That being said, this relative wouldn't just lie. They surely received a call.”


Is it just your one relative or is it a couple of friends and relatives getting these calls?

dvduval

(260 posts)
48. Only family member
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:05 AM
Nov 2020

Sorry, I was just trying to be nonspecific since it involves a relative. There were multiple family members on a group chat and I believe another one also brought up something but I don't have the specifics. So the reason for the post was just to see if anyone else was hearing something similar. I'm not trying to spread a rumor

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
45. An unnamed person from an unknown location made an unverifiable claim?
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 08:57 PM
Nov 2020

Well, damn. I fold. Who can compete with facts like that?

Ms. Toad

(34,059 posts)
46. The ballot is placed in a secrecy sleeve.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 09:01 PM
Nov 2020

Once the secrecy sleeve is separated from the return envelope, there is nothing to connect the ballot (enclosed in the blank secrecy sleeve) to the voter.

So they would be unable to identify the voter once the voter was verified. Before the voter is verified (and the envelope separated from the secrecy sleeve), the votes are hidden.

https://www.accgov.com/DocumentCenter/View/69809/Voting-Absentee-Ballot-Fact-Sheet-August-11

Note: There is no identifying information on the secrecy sleeve - all identifying information is on the return envelope which is separted from the hidden ballot - which is placed with other ballots in the secrecy sleeve.

As for calls - I get at least one a day telling me my extended warranty (on a 2004 car) is about to expire . . .

underthematrix

(5,811 posts)
27. This is a Russian psyop. Things like this should not be posted.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:24 PM
Nov 2020

Tell the victims it's a Russian psyop and to let others know it's a Russian psyop working on behalf of Trump to sow chaos. Keep it simple and short.

dvduval

(260 posts)
33. More info
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:45 PM
Nov 2020

Apparently he mailed in his about early, and then he got a call that someone else voted for him on election Day and it was provided. I got that information just now. I agree there is like a credibility here but I'm just wondering if there is some sort of phone operation underway in Georgia.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
35. What you are alleging here is not allowed in GA.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:48 PM
Nov 2020

Once your relative mailed his ballot and it was accepted, he voted. Nobody should have been able to vote for your relative on election day.

"If you request and return an absentee ballot, you cannot change your mind and vote in person. Once you return your absentee ballot, you have voted."
https://georgia.gov/vote-absentee-ballot

dvduval

(260 posts)
39. Agreed
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:58 PM
Nov 2020

Yes, I agree with you. I'm more concerned about who might be doing the calling. I'm not sure if I can easily ask my relative at this point, but if more information becomes available it'll be easier to discuss with them. I see someone else later in this thread has mentioned this now.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
36. Simply ask for the phone number that called him
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:49 PM
Nov 2020

And then plug that number into a couple of search engines, or just call the number yourself and see where it leads you.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
37. Someone I know in Atlanta got one.
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:55 PM
Nov 2020

Robot call . The caller ID was her own phone number. She isn't even registered to vote.

dvduval

(260 posts)
40. Thanks!
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:59 PM
Nov 2020

Would love to hear any additional specifics if you have them. that's kind of why I posted this in the first place, trying to see if there's a pattern here

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
41. Probably same bunch that calls from India saying our Microsoft license has expired....
Thu Nov 12, 2020, 07:59 PM
Nov 2020

or Social Security account has been suspended.

KY...........

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
49. I'm sure they can fix it too....
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:40 AM
Nov 2020

They just need your social security number and some other information....you know, to verify that you are the right person.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
51. Anybody who calls you and comes right out and tells you information that they shouldn't know
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 12:41 AM
Nov 2020

It's a scam 100% of the time.

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