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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:07 PM Nov 2020

Mary Trump Has A Surprise Prediction For Her Uncle's Post-White House Plans

President Donald Trump is reportedly telling allies that he may run again in 2024, potentially announcing the move even before President-elect Joe Biden takes office in January.

But at least one person who knows him well is deeply skeptical.

Mary Trump, the president’s niece, told CNN’s Chris Cuomo that Trump’s talk of running again is just to feed his ego ― but he won’t actually do it for one simple reason.

“He will never put himself in a position where he can lose like this again,” she said.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/mary-trump-donald-trump-2024-043336729.html

I sure hope so.

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Mary Trump Has A Surprise Prediction For Her Uncle's Post-White House Plans (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 OP
As I said earlier genxlib Nov 2020 #1
He's Going to Lose Fox News Backing NonPC Nov 2020 #28
She is probably right leftieNanner Nov 2020 #2
I suspect that he will play it coy and not announce mercuryblues Nov 2020 #10
That matches my intuition - Ms. Toad Nov 2020 #3
I agree with her. cwydro Nov 2020 #4
I think that she is right. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #5
So will it be Ivanka's turn or Donnie Jr's turn to run in 2024? keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #6
Yes, unless NY State litigates them to pieces Hekate Nov 2020 #30
....... dhol82 Nov 2020 #33
The only running they're going to be doing... albacore Nov 2020 #34
Donnie Jr. doesn't really seem like he's in such good shape. smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #49
It's good for everyone if he doesn't run. chriscan64 Nov 2020 #7
The media enabled it. He was on TV constantly, even at the beginning with half-filled rooms. LisaM Nov 2020 #27
The as yet untold story is how much the media profited from Trump's sturm und drang presidency. sop Nov 2020 #54
He won't Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #8
Well there Rebl2 Nov 2020 #25
Why even give another reason his future will not allow much freedom StClone Nov 2020 #26
Ummm I think Eugene Debs would disagree...(nt) LostOne4Ever Nov 2020 #39
Had Debs been convicted? Miguelito Loveless Nov 2020 #47
This time next year no republicans will want to hear anything from trump. brush Nov 2020 #9
I've been thinking they'll give him the "not a real Republican" treatment... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #11
Trump is no W. W was an asshole, but he was traditional and observed customs mostly. Blue_true Nov 2020 #15
The fact that he owes hundreds of millions is one reason... brush Nov 2020 #40
I think he will interfere on demand (payment by some lobbyist) OnDoutside Nov 2020 #12
I disagree. Republican office holders are terrified of what he can do to them. Blue_true Nov 2020 #14
We'll see. I still think out of sight, out of mind. Many want their... brush Nov 2020 #41
Around 70% of republicans think that Trump won the election, according to one poll. Blue_true Nov 2020 #42
trump did lose though. A lot can and will happen in four years. brush Nov 2020 #43
Trump lost, but not as badly as he should have, and we lost ground in the House Blue_true Nov 2020 #44
I'm talking about 2024. Tom Cotton, Nikki Haley, Tucker Carlson... brush Nov 2020 #46
I agree with Mary Trump. Blue_true Nov 2020 #13
Not only that but he NEEDS money now... BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #16
With a subscription cable channel pulling in $400-$600 million per month, Blue_true Nov 2020 #19
Man, you're right...realistically. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #22
Grossing $400 - $600M a month perhaps Retrograde Nov 2020 #32
The completion running against him in 2016 and 2020 was stellar. Blue_true Nov 2020 #36
My niece works for a card processor that handles the Hulu / Disney channel subscriptions. KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #38
She's been spot on so far! Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #17
She sure has. So has Michael Cohen. Both seem to know him well. nt Blue_true Nov 2020 #21
Hopefully he will be in jail, he won't be able to run Escurumbele Nov 2020 #18
We do not put former Presidents in jail. KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #35
We've never had President like Trump TexasBushwhacker Nov 2020 #48
I think we should pray that Donald is the Rethug nominee in 2024... jimlup Nov 2020 #20
We prayed that he be the nominee in 2016. Blue_true Nov 2020 #23
Yes, all the bullies lined up to vote for him jimlup Nov 2020 #29
Yes. I want all the cholesterol that he eats to do it's job. nt Blue_true Nov 2020 #31
I TOTALLY believe that! BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #24
We all lost 4 years mdbl Nov 2020 #37
I agree. But he is going to totally fuck the republicans. Not intentionally GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #45
He won't risk going up against Tommy Tuberville in the primaries. nt Buns_of_Fire Nov 2020 #50
Agree with all who agree AND who believe the grifter will work to keep his Hortensis Nov 2020 #51
I don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone. whopis01 Nov 2020 #52
K&R Blue Owl Nov 2020 #53

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
1. As I said earlier
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:08 PM
Nov 2020

He will run for a few years and absorb attention and cash. then find an excuse to quit in 2023.

NonPC

(302 posts)
28. He's Going to Lose Fox News Backing
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:18 PM
Nov 2020

He's already pissed at them for calling AZ for Biden.

So he's threatening to start up his own network to challenge Fox.

Luckily, a sizable chunk of his supporters have too short of attention span to wait for his network or ONN to fully spool up and make enough content to keep them happy.

Fox News will just hire more hot looking women -- and pay Hannity more -- to keep the knuckle draggers on their channel.

The Murdocks are not interested in being held hostage by a has-been or his spawn. Of course, they'll be nice to him and give him some air time occasionally -- but his days of it being HIS network are definitely over -- at least for the next two or three years.

If NY, or NYC, or the new DOJ can send him to prison, the Trump brand will be toast. Sorry kids.

leftieNanner

(15,082 posts)
2. She is probably right
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:08 PM
Nov 2020

But that doesn't mean that he won't PRETEND that he is going to run again so he can hold rallies and fleece the rubes for another 48 months. He does have a few hundred million in debts to pay.

Plus he is addicted to the adoration.

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
10. I suspect that he will play it coy and not announce
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:52 PM
Nov 2020

That way he can charge admission at his rallies. When that $ dries up is when he will announce a run and ask for donations to his SuperPac. When that $ dries up, he will claim some ailment so he can't run for president. But he will run away with the cash.

Ms. Toad

(34,062 posts)
3. That matches my intuition -
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:09 PM
Nov 2020

But I fully expect him to continue talking about running for as long as he can, without putting himself in a position he will lose.

In other words, at the latest, before the first primary he will withdraw for some made-up reason his cult will accept.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
5. I think that she is right.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:11 PM
Nov 2020

He will spend the rest of his life (if not in prison) trying to get revenge on people who he thinks slighted him. He can tear things down but he cannot build any kind of coalition to run again. He has such poor self esteem that he will not allow himself to be humiliated like he was. He lost by the same amount that he supposedly beat Hillary by, which he called a "landslide" among other self inflating things. Biden beat him in BOTH the EC and the Popular Vote, but a lot.

He will play around with it, but mainly to be able to do rallies and get money for himself. He will not make a serious run again.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
6. So will it be Ivanka's turn or Donnie Jr's turn to run in 2024?
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:11 PM
Nov 2020

So will it be Ivanka's turn or Donnie Jr's turn to run in 2024?

albacore

(2,398 posts)
34. The only running they're going to be doing...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:34 PM
Nov 2020

... is running from the cell-block tough guys/gals.
Both are headed for a new job. Prison bitch.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
49. Donnie Jr. doesn't really seem like he's in such good shape.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 05:42 AM
Nov 2020

At the rate he's going, I'm not so sure he'll be alive in 2024 either. If he is, he will either be in prison or rehab. He is such a fucking mess.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
7. It's good for everyone if he doesn't run.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:18 PM
Nov 2020

He doesn't risk losing and we don't risk him winning. I never want to hear again how some republican candidate is preferred in the primary because they're so unqualified they will surely lose. What we saw 4 years ago, and even more so this year is that there is no republican so bad that "Not the Democrat" isn't enough for the misinformed misanthropes they call a party.

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
27. The media enabled it. He was on TV constantly, even at the beginning with half-filled rooms.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:18 PM
Nov 2020

I never saw anything like it. I was in an airport in the summer of 2016 and noticed that there was a Hillary Clinton speech on CNN (must have been the airport version). I was surprised, and it made me realize how seldom she was actually on TV, at least her events (it was her speech about the Alt-right).

If they'd ignored him at the beginning, I think it would have kept him out of sight out of mind (or maybe not ignored, but at least made the coverage somewhat equal). I never see any pundits apologizing for this, any more than I see all these people from the Bush administration apologizing for what he did, either.

sop

(10,162 posts)
54. The as yet untold story is how much the media profited from Trump's sturm und drang presidency.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 06:41 PM
Nov 2020

brush

(53,767 posts)
9. This time next year no republicans will want to hear anything from trump.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:45 PM
Nov 2020

Losers get forgotten real quick. W Bush even won twice but when he left office nobody wanted to be associated with him.

If trump runs he won't get out of the primaries as he'll be old news and Tom Cotton, Tucker Carlson and Nikki Haley will be among the new young guns.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
11. I've been thinking they'll give him the "not a real Republican" treatment...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 07:55 PM
Nov 2020

like they did with Dubya.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
15. Trump is no W. W was an asshole, but he was traditional and observed customs mostly.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:28 PM
Nov 2020

Trump only observes what is in his best interests, he will stab anyone in the back and be relentless about it as long as that suits his interests. W was rich, no debt, so he went away to Texas and fell out of the public spotlight. Trump is deeply in debt and need avenues to service that debt, he is not going away until he has no choice.

brush

(53,767 posts)
40. The fact that he owes hundreds of millions is one reason...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:42 PM
Nov 2020

IMO he won't be a factor in 2024 politics. Another is his legal problems. I still say republicans, traditional republicans are tired of him too and will be glad to get their party back.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. I disagree. Republican office holders are terrified of what he can do to them.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:22 PM
Nov 2020

He controls their base. One good word from him for a primary opponent endangers elected republicans, they know that and will keep kissing his ass until he either goes to prison or die.

brush

(53,767 posts)
41. We'll see. I still think out of sight, out of mind. Many want their...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:49 PM
Nov 2020

party back and are sick of him, tired of the chaos and exhaustion he causes. Biden, the pandemic and the economy will dominate the news.

trump has got big problems, hundreds of millions owe and legal prosecutions that will keep him busy.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. Around 70% of republicans think that Trump won the election, according to one poll.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:53 PM
Nov 2020

Exactly HOW will non-Trumpist republicans get their party back when the few sane republicans likely get smoked in primaries?

brush

(53,767 posts)
43. trump did lose though. A lot can and will happen in four years.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:57 PM
Nov 2020

I'm betting that if any trump is a factor, it won't be the orange turd.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
44. Trump lost, but not as badly as he should have, and we lost ground in the House
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:14 AM
Nov 2020

and state legislatures. Sorry, I just don’t believe that people like those from the Lincoln Project are going to get their party back any time soon, if ever, maybe I would believe it if they seriously help us in the Georgia runoffs I would be more optimistic, but I believe those races will come down to us simply out muscling republicans to win the two seats, that involves us massively turning out democratic voters, because after Trump lost Georgia, republicans there are going to be out for blood.

brush

(53,767 posts)
46. I'm talking about 2024. Tom Cotton, Nikki Haley, Tucker Carlson...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:30 AM
Nov 2020

and others will be the new, young guns. trump will be debt-ridden old news still fighting legal jeopardy.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. I agree with Mary Trump.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:18 PM
Nov 2020

Donald Trump needs a vehicle that allows him to fleece a good portion of the 70 million plus people that voted for him. He is looking at a “conservative” subscription cable news channel. Say he sets it up, get Hannity, Ingham and a few other of his asskissers at Fox, throw in a handful of crazy assed religious right people, and charge $20 per month per subscription. He is almost certain to get 20-30 million takers, bringing in $400-$600 million per month. With that, he would become a true billionaire, worth north of $20 billion. He can either continue the fleece if it is all going well, of cash in over a few years. The guy likes money, influence and power over people, he thought President would give him all of that and found that wasn’t the case. He won’t risk running and losing again if he is getting everything that he craves from a subscription cable channel.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
16. Not only that but he NEEDS money now...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:44 PM
Nov 2020

he owes big $$$ to some powerful people. It isn't just how greedy he is but how much debt he has and to whom.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. With a subscription cable channel pulling in $400-$600 million per month,
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:51 PM
Nov 2020

his debtors likely will be willing to sit back and not come after him, especially if they are foreign dictators that realize he is giving them a new avenue with which to influence gullible Americans. I missed two groups, he will likely have lots of rightwing cops and ex-military on his channel, lying about how everyone else “hates” cops and the military.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
32. Grossing $400 - $600M a month perhaps
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:33 PM
Nov 2020

Netting, after paying "talent", operating expenses, all the other fees - maybe not so much. Given Trump's track record with other projects, I don't think it's a give that he'll be able to make sustained money in cable, especially with the competition.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. The completion running against him in 2016 and 2020 was stellar.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:46 PM
Nov 2020

He won in 2016 and got 63 million votes, and was closer than his job performance warranted in 2020 and got over 70 million votes. A subscription channel is vastly different from regular cable, he gets $400-$600 million right off the top, that is before ad revenue. He guess he pays Hannity maybe $20-$50 million per year, a little less for Inghram and the Swansan nazi. So he pays his top talent $150 per year tops, while he grosses $4.8 - $7.2 billion before ad revenue. If he is smart enough to actually let someone like Mark Burnett actually run the channel, it likely succeeds long enough to make Trump validly rich.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
38. My niece works for a card processor that handles the Hulu / Disney channel subscriptions.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:47 PM
Nov 2020

They process nearly $2 billion a month in transactions between the 2 platforms - and that is just the US market.

WWE channel, (Trumpy friend Vince McMahon) is probably the closest in nitch to what Trump will offer. They have almost 3 Million US subscribers running about $10 a month in fees every month. Trump would easily grab 30 million US subscribers in any given month - more near elections. Buddy Vince will help knowledge wise to him set up because they can cross ad buy each other.

If he does run again, or if one of his kids do, it will be publicity.

I totally agree Trump TV is the next thing.

Escurumbele

(3,386 posts)
18. Hopefully he will be in jail, he won't be able to run
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:46 PM
Nov 2020

What a pompous jackass...

He and his family better end in jail, other evil doers like him must be warned that if they try to go on the presidency all their misdeeds will be revealed and they will pay like this buffoon and his family of criminals.

People who run for the presidency must be fully vetted, and if they have bankruptcies, if they have been sued for fraud they cannot be allowed to run for any office, we must get honorable people in office, not the crooks who are running the GOP.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
35. We do not put former Presidents in jail.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:37 PM
Nov 2020

Whether or not we should given the right cause is matter of discussion. However, short of murder, no one in the Trump family will ever see the inside of a jail cell. Even then, I have my doubts. More likely they'll get hit with huge fines that get settled for pennies on the dollar or are litigated until all of them and their offspring are long dead.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,174 posts)
48. We've never had President like Trump
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 05:38 AM
Nov 2020

I think he is more likely to go to jail for tax fraud in NY and possibly FL than federal crimes. Of course, the IRS could come after him as well. But he's 74, obese and eats junk food, so he may not be long for this world anyway.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
20. I think we should pray that Donald is the Rethug nominee in 2024...
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:52 PM
Nov 2020

it would mean that they have nothing squared

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. We prayed that he be the nominee in 2016.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 08:58 PM
Nov 2020

Over 70 million Americans voted for that guy, including millions of “new” voters. The election was much, much closer that it should have rationally been. I want him to definitely NOT run, I don’t care risking having him running against a President that had to clean up the mess that Trump made and would have taken dings for doing the job of a President.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
29. Yes, all the bullies lined up to vote for him
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:28 PM
Nov 2020

Call me optimistic but I think we've got his number now. Care is needed, I agree. Personally, I hope his lifestyle finally catches up with him.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
24. I TOTALLY believe that!
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 09:01 PM
Nov 2020

This election was the most ego-smashing event he has ever experienced, by a mile and a day.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
45. I agree. But he is going to totally fuck the republicans. Not intentionally
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:23 AM
Nov 2020

But he will act like he is for a couple of years. Freezing out other potential candidates to get their game in order.

He wants to grift. He does not want to risk losing again.

Plus he may well be dead by then. He looks horrible.
I think his health is declining rapidly.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
51. Agree with all who agree AND who believe the grifter will work to keep his
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 07:14 AM
Nov 2020

base adulating and donating as much and as long as possible. If they continue to insist, he'll run and smash the evildoers (us) into oblivion, no mercy this time.

And he'll do it out of vicious vindictiveness, toward everyone, but with particular attention to Republicans who imagine they can dump and replace him.

An easy guess is that he'll continue posturing as God's agent. The religious right are his most devoted and powerful following, and he's not about to stop milking and rallying them. They're a giant weapon who scare the pants off (all but literally) the Republican leadership. Private life should allow him to rev that up, and down, as much as he cares to.

Btw, anyone who's NOT already seen Lincoln Project's "The MAGA Church" video would probably really enjoy this appalling piece.



"To say no to Donald Trump would be saying no to God." "I'm going to bomb the shit out of them." "I am The Chosen One."

whopis01

(3,510 posts)
52. I don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:04 AM
Nov 2020

As has been his pattern all along, he says whatever he thinks best suits him in the moment with no intention of following through or even remembering that he said it in the future.


Saying or hinting that he would run in 2024, with the implication that he would win makes him a winner and two term president in his mind for now.

No way does he follow up on it.

If anything he might push for his son to run then. And if that happens, when Don jr loses, Trump would just point out that his son couldn’t do as good of a job as himself.

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