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President Donald Trump is reportedly telling allies that he may run again in 2024, potentially announcing the move even before President-elect Joe Biden takes office in January.
But at least one person who knows him well is deeply skeptical.
Mary Trump, the presidents niece, told CNNs Chris Cuomo that Trumps talk of running again is just to feed his ego ― but he wont actually do it for one simple reason.
He will never put himself in a position where he can lose like this again, she said.
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/mary-trump-donald-trump-2024-043336729.html
I sure hope so.
genxlib
(5,524 posts)He will run for a few years and absorb attention and cash. then find an excuse to quit in 2023.
NonPC
(302 posts)He's already pissed at them for calling AZ for Biden.
So he's threatening to start up his own network to challenge Fox.
Luckily, a sizable chunk of his supporters have too short of attention span to wait for his network or ONN to fully spool up and make enough content to keep them happy.
Fox News will just hire more hot looking women -- and pay Hannity more -- to keep the knuckle draggers on their channel.
The Murdocks are not interested in being held hostage by a has-been or his spawn. Of course, they'll be nice to him and give him some air time occasionally -- but his days of it being HIS network are definitely over -- at least for the next two or three years.
If NY, or NYC, or the new DOJ can send him to prison, the Trump brand will be toast. Sorry kids.
leftieNanner
(15,082 posts)But that doesn't mean that he won't PRETEND that he is going to run again so he can hold rallies and fleece the rubes for another 48 months. He does have a few hundred million in debts to pay.
Plus he is addicted to the adoration.
mercuryblues
(14,530 posts)That way he can charge admission at his rallies. When that $ dries up is when he will announce a run and ask for donations to his SuperPac. When that $ dries up, he will claim some ailment so he can't run for president. But he will run away with the cash.
Ms. Toad
(34,062 posts)But I fully expect him to continue talking about running for as long as he can, without putting himself in a position he will lose.
In other words, at the latest, before the first primary he will withdraw for some made-up reason his cult will accept.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I thought that anyway, but she knows him well.
Caliman73
(11,730 posts)He will spend the rest of his life (if not in prison) trying to get revenge on people who he thinks slighted him. He can tear things down but he cannot build any kind of coalition to run again. He has such poor self esteem that he will not allow himself to be humiliated like he was. He lost by the same amount that he supposedly beat Hillary by, which he called a "landslide" among other self inflating things. Biden beat him in BOTH the EC and the Popular Vote, but a lot.
He will play around with it, but mainly to be able to do rallies and get money for himself. He will not make a serious run again.
keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)So will it be Ivanka's turn or Donnie Jr's turn to run in 2024?
Hekate
(90,645 posts)Lets hope
dhol82
(9,352 posts)albacore
(2,398 posts)... is running from the cell-block tough guys/gals.
Both are headed for a new job. Prison bitch.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)At the rate he's going, I'm not so sure he'll be alive in 2024 either. If he is, he will either be in prison or rehab. He is such a fucking mess.
chriscan64
(1,789 posts)He doesn't risk losing and we don't risk him winning. I never want to hear again how some republican candidate is preferred in the primary because they're so unqualified they will surely lose. What we saw 4 years ago, and even more so this year is that there is no republican so bad that "Not the Democrat" isn't enough for the misinformed misanthropes they call a party.
LisaM
(27,803 posts)I never saw anything like it. I was in an airport in the summer of 2016 and noticed that there was a Hillary Clinton speech on CNN (must have been the airport version). I was surprised, and it made me realize how seldom she was actually on TV, at least her events (it was her speech about the Alt-right).
If they'd ignored him at the beginning, I think it would have kept him out of sight out of mind (or maybe not ignored, but at least made the coverage somewhat equal). I never see any pundits apologizing for this, any more than I see all these people from the Bush administration apologizing for what he did, either.
sop
(10,162 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)because you cant run for president while in prison.
Rebl2
(13,492 posts)is that😑😑😑
StClone
(11,683 posts)LostOne4Ever
(9,288 posts)Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)brush
(53,767 posts)Losers get forgotten real quick. W Bush even won twice but when he left office nobody wanted to be associated with him.
If trump runs he won't get out of the primaries as he'll be old news and Tom Cotton, Tucker Carlson and Nikki Haley will be among the new young guns.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)like they did with Dubya.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Trump only observes what is in his best interests, he will stab anyone in the back and be relentless about it as long as that suits his interests. W was rich, no debt, so he went away to Texas and fell out of the public spotlight. Trump is deeply in debt and need avenues to service that debt, he is not going away until he has no choice.
brush
(53,767 posts)IMO he won't be a factor in 2024 politics. Another is his legal problems. I still say republicans, traditional republicans are tired of him too and will be glad to get their party back.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He controls their base. One good word from him for a primary opponent endangers elected republicans, they know that and will keep kissing his ass until he either goes to prison or die.
brush
(53,767 posts)party back and are sick of him, tired of the chaos and exhaustion he causes. Biden, the pandemic and the economy will dominate the news.
trump has got big problems, hundreds of millions owe and legal prosecutions that will keep him busy.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Exactly HOW will non-Trumpist republicans get their party back when the few sane republicans likely get smoked in primaries?
brush
(53,767 posts)I'm betting that if any trump is a factor, it won't be the orange turd.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)and state legislatures. Sorry, I just dont believe that people like those from the Lincoln Project are going to get their party back any time soon, if ever, maybe I would believe it if they seriously help us in the Georgia runoffs I would be more optimistic, but I believe those races will come down to us simply out muscling republicans to win the two seats, that involves us massively turning out democratic voters, because after Trump lost Georgia, republicans there are going to be out for blood.
brush
(53,767 posts)and others will be the new, young guns. trump will be debt-ridden old news still fighting legal jeopardy.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Donald Trump needs a vehicle that allows him to fleece a good portion of the 70 million plus people that voted for him. He is looking at a conservative subscription cable news channel. Say he sets it up, get Hannity, Ingham and a few other of his asskissers at Fox, throw in a handful of crazy assed religious right people, and charge $20 per month per subscription. He is almost certain to get 20-30 million takers, bringing in $400-$600 million per month. With that, he would become a true billionaire, worth north of $20 billion. He can either continue the fleece if it is all going well, of cash in over a few years. The guy likes money, influence and power over people, he thought President would give him all of that and found that wasnt the case. He wont risk running and losing again if he is getting everything that he craves from a subscription cable channel.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)he owes big $$$ to some powerful people. It isn't just how greedy he is but how much debt he has and to whom.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)his debtors likely will be willing to sit back and not come after him, especially if they are foreign dictators that realize he is giving them a new avenue with which to influence gullible Americans. I missed two groups, he will likely have lots of rightwing cops and ex-military on his channel, lying about how everyone else hates cops and the military.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)Retrograde
(10,133 posts)Netting, after paying "talent", operating expenses, all the other fees - maybe not so much. Given Trump's track record with other projects, I don't think it's a give that he'll be able to make sustained money in cable, especially with the competition.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He won in 2016 and got 63 million votes, and was closer than his job performance warranted in 2020 and got over 70 million votes. A subscription channel is vastly different from regular cable, he gets $400-$600 million right off the top, that is before ad revenue. He guess he pays Hannity maybe $20-$50 million per year, a little less for Inghram and the Swansan nazi. So he pays his top talent $150 per year tops, while he grosses $4.8 - $7.2 billion before ad revenue. If he is smart enough to actually let someone like Mark Burnett actually run the channel, it likely succeeds long enough to make Trump validly rich.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)They process nearly $2 billion a month in transactions between the 2 platforms - and that is just the US market.
WWE channel, (Trumpy friend Vince McMahon) is probably the closest in nitch to what Trump will offer. They have almost 3 Million US subscribers running about $10 a month in fees every month. Trump would easily grab 30 million US subscribers in any given month - more near elections. Buddy Vince will help knowledge wise to him set up because they can cross ad buy each other.
If he does run again, or if one of his kids do, it will be publicity.
I totally agree Trump TV is the next thing.
Thekaspervote
(32,757 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Escurumbele
(3,386 posts)What a pompous jackass...
He and his family better end in jail, other evil doers like him must be warned that if they try to go on the presidency all their misdeeds will be revealed and they will pay like this buffoon and his family of criminals.
People who run for the presidency must be fully vetted, and if they have bankruptcies, if they have been sued for fraud they cannot be allowed to run for any office, we must get honorable people in office, not the crooks who are running the GOP.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)Whether or not we should given the right cause is matter of discussion. However, short of murder, no one in the Trump family will ever see the inside of a jail cell. Even then, I have my doubts. More likely they'll get hit with huge fines that get settled for pennies on the dollar or are litigated until all of them and their offspring are long dead.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,174 posts)I think he is more likely to go to jail for tax fraud in NY and possibly FL than federal crimes. Of course, the IRS could come after him as well. But he's 74, obese and eats junk food, so he may not be long for this world anyway.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)it would mean that they have nothing squared
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Over 70 million Americans voted for that guy, including millions of new voters. The election was much, much closer that it should have rationally been. I want him to definitely NOT run, I dont care risking having him running against a President that had to clean up the mess that Trump made and would have taken dings for doing the job of a President.
jimlup
(7,968 posts)Call me optimistic but I think we've got his number now. Care is needed, I agree. Personally, I hope his lifestyle finally catches up with him.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)This election was the most ego-smashing event he has ever experienced, by a mile and a day.
mdbl
(4,973 posts)and a lot of our democracy.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But he will act like he is for a couple of years. Freezing out other potential candidates to get their game in order.
He wants to grift. He does not want to risk losing again.
Plus he may well be dead by then. He looks horrible.
I think his health is declining rapidly.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)base adulating and donating as much and as long as possible. If they continue to insist, he'll run and smash the evildoers (us) into oblivion, no mercy this time.
And he'll do it out of vicious vindictiveness, toward everyone, but with particular attention to Republicans who imagine they can dump and replace him.
An easy guess is that he'll continue posturing as God's agent. The religious right are his most devoted and powerful following, and he's not about to stop milking and rallying them. They're a giant weapon who scare the pants off (all but literally) the Republican leadership. Private life should allow him to rev that up, and down, as much as he cares to.
Btw, anyone who's NOT already seen Lincoln Project's "The MAGA Church" video would probably really enjoy this appalling piece.
"To say no to Donald Trump would be saying no to God." "I'm going to bomb the shit out of them." "I am The Chosen One."
whopis01
(3,510 posts)As has been his pattern all along, he says whatever he thinks best suits him in the moment with no intention of following through or even remembering that he said it in the future.
Saying or hinting that he would run in 2024, with the implication that he would win makes him a winner and two term president in his mind for now.
No way does he follow up on it.
If anything he might push for his son to run then. And if that happens, when Don jr loses, Trump would just point out that his son couldnt do as good of a job as himself.