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UN-F**King Believable. (Original Post) sheshe2 Nov 2020 OP
Go ahead and round it up to 250,000 this weekend Blue Owl Nov 2020 #1
The death toll will rise. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #8
That feels like a punch in the gut. calimary Nov 2020 #17
it is now over 250K, as of 5 or 6 hours ago it was 249,998 Celerity Nov 2020 #20
A quarter of a million. soldierant Nov 2020 #43
KR Me. Nov 2020 #2
Pro Life my ass they are pro fetus MagickMuffin Nov 2020 #3
Even pro-fetus started out as a deceptive cover-up. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #4
The religious right is like the moral majority; NEITHER. keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #14
That's what happens when you reject secular morality Shermann Nov 2020 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author bullimiami Nov 2020 #5
Also pro death penalty and not supportive of children after they're born Rhiannon12866 Nov 2020 #12
Keep this and every time you hear an "outrage" from your friends...print this. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 2020 #6
it's the difference 1500 coordinated and unchallenged radio stations make certainot Nov 2020 #29
That was different. Obama was president. MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #7
in 2014 limbaugh started a full month of national fearmongering on ebola and it got them 9 senate se certainot Nov 2020 #30
So it was Limbaugh MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #34
russia too. also involved in hyping it was mueller subject jerome corsi - writing nearly certainot Nov 2020 #39
Trump's malfeasance has resulted in thousands of avoidable Covid deaths Stainless Nov 2020 #9
EXACTLY! OldBaldy1701E Nov 2020 #27
maybe limbaugh and putin told him to use it like GOP did ebola in oct 2014 - to win the election certainot Nov 2020 #40
K&R betsuni Nov 2020 #10
Biden is president now so he's responsible for these deaths IronLionZion Nov 2020 #11
not just bidden. after months of covid denial and screaming against shutdowns they're going certainot Nov 2020 #41
Dems were protesting in major cities IronLionZion Nov 2020 #42
right? certainot Nov 2020 #51
Unfuckingbelievable indeed wellst0nev0ter Nov 2020 #13
Well that's one way to look at it. Bash Dems instead of lying trump... brush Nov 2020 #15
Dems need to learn how to run smear campaigns wellst0nev0ter Nov 2020 #16
Give credit where it's due. We just defeated an incumbent president... brush Nov 2020 #18
What do you do when Republican voters don't care? greatbaldeagle Nov 2020 #33
And like they like to obnoxiously say, KPN Nov 2020 #19
+++ sheshe2 Nov 2020 #47
Great post. Nt raccoon Nov 2020 #21
Indeed malaise Nov 2020 #22
I have no more phoques to give. Quemado Nov 2020 #23
Even that description of the Benghazi "investigation" isn't as strong as it could be. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #24
K&R for, reviving the O.P.! UTUSN Nov 2020 #25
I've been slapping myself stupid since March. Initech Nov 2020 #26
KnR x 1000 sarchasm Nov 2020 #28
2,977 died on 9/11 greatbaldeagle Nov 2020 #32
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Nov 2020 #35
Thank you 😊 sheshe2 Nov 2020 #36
Landslide? Polybius Nov 2020 #37
Welp. sheshe2 Nov 2020 #45
Well, I don't Polybius Nov 2020 #52
trumPutin called the same EC numbers in 2016 a landslide Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #50
Yup Polybius Nov 2020 #53
So let him and his cult refute and explain. No reason for us to do their work. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #54
LOL! lunatica Nov 2020 #38
... sheshe2 Nov 2020 #49
Yeah. Quarter million dead, crimes comitted and will walk out and continue sedition unless checked. Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #44
Brainwashed bunch AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #46
That they are... sheshe2 Nov 2020 #48

Blue Owl

(50,349 posts)
1. Go ahead and round it up to 250,000 this weekend
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:10 PM
Nov 2020

Donald tRump, mass murderer, ain't stoppin' until Jan. 20 and who knows what the final toll will be...

calimary

(81,220 posts)
17. That feels like a punch in the gut.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:31 AM
Nov 2020

EVERY number in that 325,000 is a person. A living, loving, caring human being with a family full of loved ones, all shapes, sizes, colors, nationalities, ages - the youngest I heard of this week was a five-year-old.

This just FUCKING HURTS! And I don't even know any of these people. It doesn't matter. They're fellow travelers, all bozos on this bus called Planet Earth. And they have feelings and cares and worries and loves, and people who care about them. They laugh and they cry. And now they're the object of tears - gone. Lost forever down a dark hole called COVID. Leaving a trail of aching hearts and lit votive candles. And the holidays are coming. I bet there were a few of these COVID victims for whom a special Christmas gift had already been purchased or ordered, or made by hand.

And it didn't have to end this way. They didn't have to die.

Damn.

MagickMuffin

(15,936 posts)
3. Pro Life my ass they are pro fetus
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:11 PM
Nov 2020

And all that bs Grassley spouted about "death panels" he and the rest of his party are guilty of DEATHS. These people didn't even need to appear before death panels, the death panels are walking amongst us and you know who they are because they refuse to accept the reality and refuse to mask up.



Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
4. Even pro-fetus started out as a deceptive cover-up.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:14 PM
Nov 2020

There's surely many who deeply believe it now, but mostly because they've had it hammered into their heads for decades.




keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
14. The religious right is like the moral majority; NEITHER.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:20 AM
Nov 2020

The religious right is like the moral majority; NEITHER.

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

Shermann

(7,412 posts)
31. That's what happens when you reject secular morality
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:13 PM
Nov 2020

You don't exercise your own logical brain enough and instead let the "gurus" deem what's moral based on their loose interpretations of scripture.

Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #3)

Rhiannon12866

(205,211 posts)
12. Also pro death penalty and not supportive of children after they're born
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:00 AM
Nov 2020

Examples include lack of action after the horror of Sandy Hook, not to mention ripping babies out of the arms of immigrant mothers.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,591 posts)
7. That was different. Obama was president.
Fri Nov 13, 2020, 11:21 PM
Nov 2020


I remember when medical personnel were forcibly quarantined during the Ebola outbreak. Kaci Hickox a nurse who had treated patients in West Africa was subjected to widespread vilification and ridicule when she complained over how she was treated. I'm going out on a limb here but I bet the people that were in favor of her imprisonment are the same people that can't be bothered to take safety precautions in this pandemic. Masks and social distancing are tyranny and a violation of their rights.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/10/cdc-some-states-differ-over-quarantine-ebola-responders
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
30. in 2014 limbaugh started a full month of national fearmongering on ebola and it got them 9 senate se
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:12 PM
Nov 2020

seats

some thought of it as an october surprise. it all ended right after the electons.

media needs to investigate if limbaugh convinced dtrump it could work with COVID. they are both stupid and simple enough to equate the two

MustLoveBeagles

(11,591 posts)
34. So it was Limbaugh
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:38 PM
Nov 2020

I should've known. Of course there were probably others too. I remember the doctors and scientists at the time were saying that rw politicians and rw media were spreading misinformation. President Obama invited a nurse who was exposed to it to the White House and even hugged her to people there was nothing to fear. People listened to them then about as well as they're listening to them now, meaning not at all. Funny how all the fear mongering immediatly stopped once they got what they wanted. It wouldn't surprise me if they tried it again with Covid only this time it didn't work. The media does need to look into it but I'm not holding my breath.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
39. russia too. also involved in hyping it was mueller subject jerome corsi - writing nearly
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 06:18 PM
Nov 2020

every day in oct about it in right wing rag WND

who was pushing the social media in congo 2019 to get locals to attack ebola clinics? but they got that under control

Ian Reifowitz posted a diary Feb 29 — Weaponizing an epidemic for political purposes is exactly what Limbaugh did to Obama​​​ detailing how Limbaugh and the Republicans used ebola to help them regain the house and senate in 2014. Democrats lost 13 House seats and nine Senate seats. They used fear of ebola in October to win in November and then forgot about ebola after their election successes. It was a manufactured crisis, it worked, and why wouldn’t they use it again?

Stainless

(718 posts)
9. Trump's malfeasance has resulted in thousands of avoidable Covid deaths
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:41 AM
Nov 2020

That is at least Involuntary Manslaughter! Send him to prison now.....

OldBaldy1701E

(5,117 posts)
27. EXACTLY!
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:54 PM
Nov 2020

The entire administration needs to be examined with that mindset. There are just too many aspects of what has transpired that certainly fall into actionable charges. I hope like hell the new administration sees it that way!

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
40. maybe limbaugh and putin told him to use it like GOP did ebola in oct 2014 - to win the election
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 06:21 PM
Nov 2020

they got 9 senate seats

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
11. Biden is president now so he's responsible for these deaths
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:58 AM
Nov 2020


Any bets on when they'll start saying this? Maybe early January before the inauguration?
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
41. not just bidden. after months of covid denial and screaming against shutdowns they're going
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 06:22 PM
Nov 2020

use the same radio stations to blame democrats in every state - it's what they do

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
42. Dems were protesting in major cities
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 06:39 PM
Nov 2020

so that's why COVID has spread throughout rural southern and midwestern states. Also those damn foreigners.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
13. Unfuckingbelievable indeed
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:07 AM
Nov 2020

That the democrats are so inept at messaging that they can AT BEST only barely beat trump, and lose a bunch of downballot races with these conditions.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
16. Dems need to learn how to run smear campaigns
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:25 AM
Nov 2020

instead of campaigning nicely against goops. Call it a complaint if you want, dems don't know how to campaign in this environment.

brush

(53,764 posts)
18. Give credit where it's due. We just defeated an incumbent president...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:31 AM
Nov 2020

something rarely done. And we have a shot at a Senate majority. Give up some props, already.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
33. What do you do when Republican voters don't care?
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:25 PM
Nov 2020

I agree that Democrats suck at messaging. But I think they suck at communicating their accomplishments and how their policies are best for the country, not necessarily talking about the other side. It's not like they aren't aware that he's a con artist, liar, cheat, racist, etc. Some don't care and the rest like that he's that way. I'm convinced that no amount of smearing would have mattered. These people love Trump and are willing to die for him. They hate other people more than they love themselves. What do you do with that?

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
24. Even that description of the Benghazi "investigation" isn't as strong as it could be.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:28 PM
Nov 2020

It took much longer, cost way, WAY more money and diverted more of the government away from doing the jobs they were elected to than the entire JFK assassination case.

greatbaldeagle

(157 posts)
32. 2,977 died on 9/11
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:15 PM
Nov 2020

after Bush ignored the warnings. He wasn't asked to resign, got re-elected, took us to war with Iraq based on a false premise, and got away with it. Reagan ignored the AIDS crisis and 89,343 people died under his watch. It barely gets mentioned as far as his legacy goes. Republicans are immune to scrutiny and accountability. It only matters if you’re a Democrat.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
45. Welp.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:08 PM
Nov 2020

We turned red states blue. See Arizona and Georgia. Huge. Absolutely huge.

Texas is turning purple. We won the Presidency with more than 5 million popular votes and you are basically saying we f**led.

I do see it as a landslide. Two new blue states is a beautiful thing as is the Presidency.

Polybius

(15,385 posts)
52. Well, I don't
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 12:18 AM
Nov 2020

I see a landslide as 400+ Electoral Votes. I don't even view 1992 as a landslide, although I can see the argument being made for it.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
54. So let him and his cult refute and explain. No reason for us to do their work.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 12:26 AM
Nov 2020

They create these inconsistencies; let them sort it out. Either their rule works both ways, or it does not work at all, and they need to explain why.

Keeps 'em busy rationalizing instead of tearing shit up.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
44. Yeah. Quarter million dead, crimes comitted and will walk out and continue sedition unless checked.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:39 PM
Nov 2020

Hard. With prejudice. "This ain't no party. This ain't no disco. This ain't no foolin' around. No lovey-dovey..." JUSTICE!

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