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Nevilledog

(51,085 posts)
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:19 AM Nov 2020

McCabe:There is some very, very serious, very specific undeniable intelligence that has NOT come out



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Tami Burages
@tburages
Wow. McCabe says this regarding the Russia report:

"There is some very, very serious, very specific undeniable intelligence that has NOT come out ... that would risk casting the president in a very negative light."
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McCabe:There is some very, very serious, very specific undeniable intelligence that has NOT come out (Original Post) Nevilledog Nov 2020 OP
K&R MustLoveBeagles Nov 2020 #1
and WHY are we not shining that light on it??? NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #2
Classified Nevilledog Nov 2020 #4
Two possibilities: H2O Man Nov 2020 #5
maybe 3. it is far beyond trump and shows current R members of congress beshitted NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #7
Great point. H2O Man Nov 2020 #14
Independence Day In Moscow, 2018? hatrack Nov 2020 #21
That's exactly it. onecaliberal Nov 2020 #37
McCabe specifically referred to a very bad light being cast on Trump. n/t Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #49
+1 uponit7771 Nov 2020 #63
Screw sources and methods when our country is at stake elias7 Nov 2020 #35
I think it is H2O Man Nov 2020 #48
It's classified. PE Biden may change that. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #9
He said it right in the video. The intel sources would be revealed... brush Nov 2020 #16
because it's about russia using rw radio for maybe 15 years certainot Nov 2020 #43
can you even imagine Skittles Nov 2020 #3
there is no bottom to that particular swamp NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #6
My guess is that it involves blackmail... First Speaker Nov 2020 #10
I'd like to know what he has on Justice Kennedy's kid. belpejic Nov 2020 #19
Oh yeah. I'd take that bet. 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #24
I've been saying this from the get go. bamagal62 Nov 2020 #41
you are right about Cruz Skittles Nov 2020 #52
She isn't ugly -- she looks a bit like the actress Ana Gasteyer imo obamanut2012 Nov 2020 #70
Ted Cruz's wife is perfectly nice looking: tblue37 Nov 2020 #78
wow, yes Skittles Nov 2020 #82
I say that nothing H2O Man Nov 2020 #13
I remember that line-"Don't eat the brown acid." 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #31
at this point I feel like I never left the bum trip tent at Woodstock Skittles Nov 2020 #51
This is just BS. It should have been released. 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #8
Releasing classified information is a federal crime. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #15
You have a point if it's classified. But why is it? 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #23
Because the administration decided what gets classified and what gets unclassified. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #26
It's not who, but why. In this case the who is the why. DT. 58Sunliner Nov 2020 #29
Well of course. But as president he has that power. GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #30
Can't be addressed if it's INSIDE THE KREMLIN Captain Zero Nov 2020 #38
One exception ... CloudWatcher Nov 2020 #54
"If I lose, I may need to leave the country." DrToast Nov 2020 #11
What does this mean ???? a kennedy Nov 2020 #12
Big pay off and someone safeinOhio Nov 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author ancianita Nov 2020 #22
That's my guess. LudwigPastorius Nov 2020 #28
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #18
WTF are you talking about? GulfCoast66 Nov 2020 #27
easy for you to say. maybe you live in a city. in the rest of the country all day it's certainot Nov 2020 #44
what exactly do Pelosi and Schiff stopdiggin Nov 2020 #56
Trump's probably giving identities and locations of our... Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2020 #20
One of our most highly guarded secrets is the location of our submarines on patrol. At one time Trum keithbvadu2 Nov 2020 #39
Not to mention a number of other potential Republicans like Moscow Mitch. nt cstanleytech Nov 2020 #25
This is the kind of crap I have no patience with. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #32
There are ways to get indictments that are dependent on classified information, but... LudwigPastorius Nov 2020 #45
McCabe plays peek-a-boo with something horrible that's known about Trump on the same day... Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #59
Exactly. It's playground bullshit Codeine Nov 2020 #75
Perhaps McCabe is hinting that more will be revealed once the Biden administration takes office? triron Nov 2020 #76
Pee tape TalenaGor Nov 2020 #33
My guess, it's worse than just a pee tape. The Animator Nov 2020 #34
Maybe really underage corpses Captain Zero Nov 2020 #40
My guess: communications with Putin/Russia that's compromising. Putin has Trump over a barrel. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #60
If this is true flotsam Nov 2020 #36
Bingo!! onetexan Nov 2020 #50
If this is true then there would be future capitulating in the Senate. herding cats Nov 2020 #55
did Trump bury a dead hooker in the desert outside Las Vegas? TeamPooka Nov 2020 #42
What would a true Patriot do? A genuine national hero? KPN Nov 2020 #46
The GOP actually thought they were going to steal this election. C Moon Nov 2020 #47
So it can't be made public... But can't our intelligence agencies act on it to protect the country? Beartracks Nov 2020 #53
It's probably part of a sealed indictment. roamer65 Nov 2020 #57
Hmm... Dirty Socialist Nov 2020 #58
K&R spanone Nov 2020 #61
This is the very opposite of news. Now, when even ANY bit comes out... Hortensis Nov 2020 #62
Nope, if Trump was videoed verbalizing nuclear codes to Vlad his worshipers would STILL obey his uponit7771 Nov 2020 #64
Ermm.. since when has any news about Trump.. ananda Nov 2020 #65
Peter Strzok Mike 03 Nov 2020 #66
Suspicious how Trump fired the nation's counterespionage leadership. Kid Berwyn Nov 2020 #72
My guess is there is probably more than 1 classified report that shows Trump sold us out Buckeyeblue Nov 2020 #67
Trump's in hock up to his ears DeminPennswoods Nov 2020 #68
I would think that someone would take the "hit" if any, and release the details BSdetect Nov 2020 #69
Lots of speculation here regarding the classification genxlib Nov 2020 #71
Recall the somber looks on Feinstein's and Grassley's faces after that intelligence briefing a few triron Nov 2020 #73
knr!!!! triron Nov 2020 #74
What if he's selling secrets, committing treason? MyMission Nov 2020 #77
Bet it's really bad too. triron Nov 2020 #80
Uh oh... DO TELL!!! Blue Owl Nov 2020 #79
I knew it! AwakeAtLast Nov 2020 #81
Hey! He said not to call him smart! Brainfodder Nov 2020 #83

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
5. Two possibilities:
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:30 AM
Nov 2020

1- More of it will become known under the next administration.
2- It would reveal sources & methods.

elias7

(3,997 posts)
35. Screw sources and methods when our country is at stake
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:29 AM
Nov 2020

At some point, you have to draw a line. What’s the point in protecting sources and methods if the intelligence never becomes actionable, when protecting sources outweighs protecting our democracy.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
48. I think it is
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 02:15 AM
Nov 2020

likely that more information will be declassified after January. That is a good thing.

I'm catching up on some of the Senate committee hearings in recent days. I think we all knew Lindsey Graham and his beast fiend republican friends were only doing this to try to help Trump's re-election hopes. And I am confident that Lindsey was intent upon increasing his own chances.

brush

(53,771 posts)
16. He said it right in the video. The intel sources would be revealed...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:40 AM
Nov 2020

and thus be put in danger. Which means most of that intel will never get out. trump again lucks out, but at least we got his ass out.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
3. can you even imagine
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:27 AM
Nov 2020

what info they could have that could possibly make Trump seem more disgusting than we already know him to be?

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
10. My guess is that it involves blackmail...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:33 AM
Nov 2020

...Trump actively aiding Russian agents in blackmailing US politicians. Graham is obvious. But how about Ted Cruz, say? Trump openly suggested his father *helped assassinate JFK*. And yet, Mountie Boy has totally ignored this, and acted as one of Trump's chief lap dogs. Either he has no moral center whatsoever--always a possibility for "conservative" pols--or else, he's been forced to do what he's doing. Yes, this is just a guess, but if I were a betting man, I'd put hard cash down that mass blackmail has been *one* of the things going on the past five years...

belpejic

(720 posts)
19. I'd like to know what he has on Justice Kennedy's kid.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:46 AM
Nov 2020

And who paid Bart O'Kavanaugh's debts.

And what he's got on Yertle.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
52. you are right about Cruz
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 02:44 AM
Nov 2020

most guys would kick your ass for saying their wife is ugly, even if she IS ugly

*on edit, I mean this in the general sense; I am in no way commenting on Mrs. Cruz, I don't even know what she looks like, irrelevant

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
70. She isn't ugly -- she looks a bit like the actress Ana Gasteyer imo
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:54 AM
Nov 2020

Not my type at all, but not some hideous gorgon. Not that it matters at all, as you said.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
82. wow, yes
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 06:42 PM
Nov 2020

it just kills me that Trump has the NERVE to comment on the looks of others - he looks RIDICULOUS

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
13. I say that nothing
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:35 AM
Nov 2020

can surprise me any more. Yet, this very evening, while watching the news, I questioned if someone tabbed me with the brown acid from Woodstock. If not, Trump is becoming more repulsive by the minute -- almost like in the Monster Movie Matinee series I watched in the mid-1960s.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
51. at this point I feel like I never left the bum trip tent at Woodstock
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 02:43 AM
Nov 2020

Last edited Sat Nov 14, 2020, 06:52 PM - Edit history (1)

it still feels like there is no end to the virus that is......Trump

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
15. Releasing classified information is a federal crime.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:36 AM
Nov 2020

It’s easy for us on the internet to say they should do so. But we would not be facing time in the federal pen.

One of their biggest fears is Biden releasing the information. Not that it will change many minds. They will claim it is fake.

58Sunliner

(4,384 posts)
23. You have a point if it's classified. But why is it?
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:51 AM
Nov 2020

But it seems as if that is abused to provide cover and means to a few, when the information should be critical to the understanding of the risks to Americans. I understand protecting sources, but that could be addressed.

58Sunliner

(4,384 posts)
29. It's not who, but why. In this case the who is the why. DT.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:04 AM
Nov 2020

And that is contrary to the interests of the US, for whom DT has proven he has no regard for.

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
38. Can't be addressed if it's INSIDE THE KREMLIN
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:35 AM
Nov 2020

If the source inside the Kremlin is outed. It is dead along with all it's working contacts.

CloudWatcher

(1,846 posts)
54. One exception ...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 02:58 AM
Nov 2020
...under the Speech or Debate Clause, members of Congress “cannot be prosecuted for reading classified material into the public record– and it is up to them, and them alone, to decide what is worth talking about.”


https://www.pointoforder.com/2013/08/06/congressional-release-of-classified-information-and-the-speech-or-debate-clause/

Response to safeinOhio (Reply #17)

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
28. That's my guess.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:03 AM
Nov 2020

Money from Putin/Russian government going directly into Trump's pocket to influence U.S. foreign policy.

Specifics of where the cash originates, and how it got to Trump, can't be revealed because that would endanger U.S. intelligence assets embedded in the Russian government.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
27. WTF are you talking about?
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:03 AM
Nov 2020

I assume you are aware that only the administration can decide what is classified and what is not. And that only the administration controlled DOJ can bring charges? Pelosi and Schumer have none of those powers. That’s why winning matters.

Stop blaming democrats for not taking actions they don’t have the power to take.

stopdiggin

(11,300 posts)
56. what exactly do Pelosi and Schiff
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:39 AM
Nov 2020

have to do with as yet unclassified material? We can all understand a certain level of frustration -- but your comments seem to be drifting toward a lack of understanding and knowledge. Do you really imagine that the House has the ability to impose their will on all the issues you ticked off? That's -- fairly misguided, at best.

"Twiddling their thumbs ..." ---- -- -- ----

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
20. Trump's probably giving identities and locations of our...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 12:48 AM
Nov 2020

... secret agents to his buddy, Vlad, among other things.

keithbvadu2

(36,783 posts)
39. One of our most highly guarded secrets is the location of our submarines on patrol. At one time Trum
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:36 AM
Nov 2020

One of our most highly guarded secrets is the location of our submarines on patrol. At one time Trump publicly told Russia and China how many to look for near Korea, (two).

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
32. This is the kind of crap I have no patience with.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:11 AM
Nov 2020

Basically he's saying, "I know something you don't know."

Big Fucking Deal. Either tell us, or shut up.

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
45. There are ways to get indictments that are dependent on classified information, but...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:56 AM
Nov 2020

when the Attorney General & the DOJ are in Trump's pocket, all that spilling info to the press will do is get McCabe prosecuted and get U.S. intelligence assets outed.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
59. McCabe plays peek-a-boo with something horrible that's known about Trump on the same day...
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 04:00 AM
Nov 2020

... that John Kelly directs severe criticism at Trump for forbidding his staff to work on the Biden transition.

There's a message here. This is a show of power. Trump had better listen.

But, based upon what we know about Trumpy-Boy, he'll seethe with defiance and will now ABSOLUTELY REFUSE to work with the transition team. No one tells him what to do.

If Kelly is a strategic thinker (McCabe certainly is), then he's working a strategy that's manipulating Trump. And my guess is that he is. A strategic thinker can reasonably predict what a reaction to a message will be. Kelly is manipulating Trump to heighten his rigidity about not working with the transition team. He wants Trump to overreact.

Both McCabe and Kelly know that Trump is vulnerable.

This is like a Shakespearian play.

The Animator

(1,138 posts)
34. My guess, it's worse than just a pee tape.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:27 AM
Nov 2020

We know he was frequently in Epstien’s orbit.

Putin probably has him compromat with underage girls.
Maybe really underage...

Eyeball_Kid

(7,431 posts)
60. My guess: communications with Putin/Russia that's compromising. Putin has Trump over a barrel.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 04:09 AM
Nov 2020

McCabe's organization specializes in intercepting cables, or telephone calls, transmitted documents, and emails. That's the intelligence community's stock-in-trade. McCabe knows that world. He's known something "horrible" about Trump for a long time, and it's probably one of the reasons that Trump got rid of McCabe.

Remember when McCabe was fired by Trump? McCabe seemed to have this look on his face that said to Trump, "You have no idea what I know about you. You're a fool to play with this (IC) world."

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
36. If this is true
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:32 AM
Nov 2020

I expect Joe Biden will have a highly confidential chat with the GOP leadership whom I expect to become quietly very compliant to the new Presidents requests and suggestions...

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
55. If this is true then there would be future capitulating in the Senate.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 03:10 AM
Nov 2020

Which means, we shall see. So far the vile wretch McConnell hasn't broken ranks. Time will tell as to the veracity here.

I did see Michael Steele claiming McConnell would be more inclined than people expected of Biden's picks. Perhaps it's related down the twisted road? If McConnell loses his majority this might get extremely interesting.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
53. So it can't be made public... But can't our intelligence agencies act on it to protect the country?
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 02:46 AM
Nov 2020

I guess a lot depends on how bad a light it is.

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uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
64. Nope, if Trump was videoed verbalizing nuclear codes to Vlad his worshipers would STILL obey his
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 07:59 AM
Nov 2020

... every word.

This is a cult and all he has to say is Pelosi made him do it and that's it, they'll believe it.

Dude was on tape admitting the virus was horrible and took little to no steps to mitigate it while S Korea has a 4.3% UE rate.

No, they worship Trump ... period.

Kid Berwyn

(14,896 posts)
72. Suspicious how Trump fired the nation's counterespionage leadership.
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 10:07 AM
Nov 2020

"All roads lead to Putin." -- Hon. Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House


Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
67. My guess is there is probably more than 1 classified report that shows Trump sold us out
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:31 AM
Nov 2020

That's probably why they are stonewalling Biden getting classified briefings. The new administration I'm guessing has some ideas what they will find out. But I bet there will be some crazy surprises as well.

What will be interesting is will this information shake up anything.

DeminPennswoods

(15,285 posts)
68. Trump's in hock up to his ears
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:36 AM
Nov 2020

with Russia via oligarachs Putin controls. It's nothing more complicated than that.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
69. I would think that someone would take the "hit" if any, and release the details
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 08:47 AM
Nov 2020

WTF

Seriously, is there no cover for such a release as in the whistle blower act?

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
71. Lots of speculation here regarding the classification
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 09:38 AM
Nov 2020

The common theme seems to be it is not being released only because it is classified. Meaning it could be de-classified or someone could break the law to release it.

However, you have to consider the possibility that the information is simply too valuable to release. Suppose for instance, that a high ranking person in Putin's immediate office is actually spying for us. He could be telling us important things about the Trump-Putin relationship. But that still might not be a big enough reason to risk his life or lose access to that source of intelligence.

I am convinced that Republicans often leverage classified situations in a very cynical manner knowing that the truth can't come out. For instance, my personal conspiracy theory is that Benghazi had something to do with a CIA classified operation that went horribly wrong. But they still hammered Clinton for it knowing she couldn't tell the truth about what really happened.

triron

(21,999 posts)
73. Recall the somber looks on Feinstein's and Grassley's faces after that intelligence briefing a few
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 10:28 AM
Nov 2020

years ago.

MyMission

(1,850 posts)
77. What if he's selling secrets, committing treason?
Sat Nov 14, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

Seriously, that's the big question. Selling arms, issuing contracts, that's grift. But giving away or selling secrets, names, locations, protocols, etc to undermine our safety is something he's certainly done and will continue to do. Many agencies are aware of this through back channels, other governments, and our own Intel which is functioning but compromised.

So, If the president commits treason what can we do about it? We're in totally new territory.
The Senate won't act, as many GOP are complicit, and they maintain a sitting prez can't be prosecuted?!? I think our founders design was the Congress and Senate would bring impeachment charges if such a thing happened.

Could the new congress file treason charges, that might implicate some in the Senate?
If some in the Senate are implicated, they would not get to vote in impeachment hearings.
If impeachment hearings were started, would he resign and get pence to pardon him?

I'm just thinking about this as I read your post.
They must have outright proof of his treasonous acts. Now that Biden is coming in, they can report it to someone who will act on it, not bury it, not fire them for reporting it, not make their lives hell, etc.

And let's not forget about the sedition, plotting a coup, firing of key personnel and replacing them with loyalists.

If they're saying this information could cast the president in very negative way, it must be really bad.





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