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Sat Nov 14, 2020, 04:02 AM

A stimulus package has to be done, like yesterday

I've been holding my tongue on this because I knew nothing would be done before the election. I get why Nancy and the Dems are holding out for a full on bill. I get why Ditch was just throwing bread crumbs because thats who they are. The fact of the matter is congress needs to act now.
Over the next 6 weeks people who were laid off in March are going to start falling off the UI roll's into unemployment purgatory. That will remove them from any access to a stimulus package after the fact except a lump payment like the pitiful 1200 dollar check 6 months ago. You must be eligible and drawing unemployment in order to receive any extra benefits.
The CARES act gave all states a guaranteed 13 week extension after folks ran through the initial 26 weeks of benefits (26 in most states, some vary). There is also extended benefits after that of 13 weeks IF your state's unemployment rate is enough to trigger that from the feds. But you must draw the CARES 13 weeks first. That's important as many states unemployment rates are dropping just enough that the extended benefits are being cancelled.
Both sides said IF a stimulus is passed it WILL be retroactive. The point there is if your UI has completely expired you're basically fucked, you don't get shit.
The number of people that are now on the CARES 13 week extension has more than doubled since October to nearly 5 million. If they live in a state that federal extended benefits have been triggered off, this is it. That extra CARES 13 weeks is it and won't last past Xmas.
My point is, they need to do something now. If the Dems need to break this up into seperate bills in order to satisfy Ditch they need to do it. By the end of Nov beginning of Dec folks are going to start dropping off the UI rolls with zero safety net even if something gets passed after the fact. Current trends are upwards of 6 million dropping off UI by Xmas.
Yes, I am one of them, laid off since March. 60 years old, this is only the second time I've drawn UI in my life. I'm over the partisan bickering. The election is over. Bust the damn bill up and get the money where it needs to go now. There are millions of us that are going to lose everything without help. If they wait until January it's to late, it's going to get really bad, soup line bad. I will fight for whats right to the bitter end but we can't fight if we're Steinbecked. I don't want to have to drive 3 hours round trip to an Amazon warehouse for 15 bucks an hour and risk dying when I have a BA I'm still paying for dammit. Not in this country, not when Wall Street gets 12 trillion printed and handed to them. This isn't just the Repukes, the Dems have to do whatever it takes. Bust the fucking bill up if that's what it takes!

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Reply A stimulus package has to be done, like yesterday (Original post)
Cheezoholic Nov 2020 OP
duforsure Nov 2020 #1
Celerity Nov 2020 #3
Cheezoholic Nov 2020 #5
Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #2
Cheezoholic Nov 2020 #4
Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #7
joshcryer Nov 2020 #6
stopbush Nov 2020 #8
greenjar_01 Nov 2020 #9

Response to Cheezoholic (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 04:20 AM

1. I agree, but,

Nancy doesn't want trump to get any of it, or have it disappear like some of the PPP money did with them before, or be used as a weapon like trump wants to do. Even if Congress agrees to a bill, loser trump will not, unless he gets his payoff. trump never wanted us to get anything, Mitch too.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 04:43 AM

3. +1000

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Response to duforsure (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 05:09 AM

5. As far as I'm concerned

just the funds to help individuals and families before everyone goes off the cliff, they could wrap that cash in a Trump bow with a Melania "Fuck Xmas" ornament if it boosts his loser ego. I don't care about PPP or any of the other back and forth pork that was in the CARES act. Less than a 3rd of that made it down here where we all live.

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Response to Cheezoholic (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 04:41 AM

2. I completely agree

It has been done for months and is held up by McConnell. He is the problem.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 05:01 AM

4. If Ditch and the Repukes

agreed to about the amount of the CARES act that went directly into the pockets of the people that needed it now and put the funding for the state and local, PPP, the other stuff on the shelf to be worked on would you agree to that? Just the part of the CARES act that helped the unemployed and families in need.

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Response to Cheezoholic (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 05:43 AM

7. I don't have to agree to anything

McConnell is the one with whom you need to speak. He is the one holding up any progress on this House Bill and so many others.

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Response to Cheezoholic (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 05:35 AM

6. Trump said if no one voted for him there would be no stimulus.

So there likely will not be a stimulus. The budget needs to be voted on by Dec 11th. Biden's electors make him officially the new president Dec 14th. There won't be anything.

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Response to Cheezoholic (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 10:28 AM

8. You do realize that if the Heroes bill is broken up into smaller bills

the chances are better than 50-50 that the parts of the bill that would directly help you and others in your position will never pass. The Rs are interested only in more bail out money for businesses. Pelosi knows these people, and she knows that they would like to do nothing more than to neuter the Heroes Act thru a death of a thousand cuts.

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Response to Cheezoholic (Original post)

Sat Nov 14, 2020, 10:29 AM

9. The failure to pass second stimulus is largely responsible for the current COVID disaster

 

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