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chia

(2,244 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:04 AM Nov 2020

No rest before 2022: How Republicans pulled off a big upset and nearly took back the House

How Republicans pulled off a big upset and nearly took back the House

As of this writing, Republicans are leading in 27 of the 27 seats the Cook Political Report deemed toss-up before the election. They are ahead in all 26 of the seats that were deemed either leaning or likely Republican. Republicans are also leading in 7 of the 36 seats that were either leaning or likely to be taken by the Democrats.

That is, Republicans not only pretty much swept the tossups, but they marched into Democratic territory as well.

The Crystal Ball, which bravely has no tossups in its final rating, had Democrats net gaining 10 House seats. It will actually be the Republicans who will likely net gain 10 seats or more.

The end result of which is that Republicans are much closer to a House majority than we believed they would be after 2020 and have put themselves in a strong position heading into the 2022 midterms.




I didn't expect this, although after reading a related thread here about Parscale's Big Data Death Star, it seems a bit more understandable. Maybe I was just so focused on the Presidential race I didn't pay as much attention down-ballot as I should've. 2022 looks a lot more significant now.
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No rest before 2022: How Republicans pulled off a big upset and nearly took back the House (Original Post) chia Nov 2020 OP
Who is the best on the Democratic side to work in between elections to engage and register our side? texasfiddler Nov 2020 #1
I suspect they will increase gerrymandering scams even more. BSdetect Nov 2020 #2
For sure! New Hampshire will probably be the next place they destroy with jimfields33 Nov 2020 #12
I think we'll do good in 2022 Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #3
In my opinion, they will be hard-pressed to duplicate those numbers without DJT on the ballot. kentuck Nov 2020 #4
You make a good point, I appreciate your opinion chia Nov 2020 #6
I agree! I question whether Trump would stump for the GOP since In It to Win It Nov 2020 #9
Probably not, but president in party usually does horrible midterms. jimfields33 Nov 2020 #14
How did Reagan do Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #16
1982 - Democratic Party picked up 1 Democratic senate seat and 28 democratic house seats. jimfields33 Nov 2020 #18
Ok. Turin_C3PO Nov 2020 #21
Me too! History definitely does NOT have to repeat itself jimfields33 Nov 2020 #23
2018 happened BECAUSE of Trump Polybius Nov 2020 #27
Bush gained his first midterm. Killed it, actually. But that was due to Sept. 11. I can't Guy Whitey Corngood Nov 2020 #28
Agree.. just like we would have been hard pressed to repeat our record win in 18 this year Thekaspervote Nov 2020 #22
Also, Trump was not on the ballot in 2018. kentuck Nov 2020 #32
Trump will leave Biden a huge mess though Polybius Nov 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2020 #5
Your last two lines - that's poetry chia Nov 2020 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2020 #13
Thanks, you do the same. Enjoy that coffee, I just finished mine on a crisp, sunny CA morning chia Nov 2020 #15
We were successful with the slogan... UncleTomsEvilBrother Nov 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2020 #17
Right on! triron Nov 2020 #19
M$M still giving America's horrible polling a pass, no... We need answers not anecdotes uponit7771 Nov 2020 #8
Blame part of it on DeJoy, add more due to Barr's lies. triron Nov 2020 #10
True! Thankfully he will he gone (both) jimfields33 Nov 2020 #20
Republicans knocked on doors. Our side did mostly phone banking and social media. Blue_true Nov 2020 #24
Agree LeftInTX Nov 2020 #30
No rest, never. There are 70 million of them and many Raven Nov 2020 #25
USPS, ES&S hackable voting machines... JCMach1 Nov 2020 #29
This was not good. She lost more than last time. LeftInTX Nov 2020 #31

texasfiddler

(1,989 posts)
1. Who is the best on the Democratic side to work in between elections to engage and register our side?
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:07 AM
Nov 2020

I would love to send money and help.

jimfields33

(15,703 posts)
12. For sure! New Hampshire will probably be the next place they destroy with
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:37 AM
Nov 2020

Taking away democratic seats or put democratic cities together in one seat. Something crazy like that. They have 27 states to screw with. Ugh!

Turin_C3PO

(13,912 posts)
3. I think we'll do good in 2022
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:10 AM
Nov 2020

as long as we go with the strategy that led to the 2018 blue tsunami. But it'll take work; lots of money, door knocking, phone and text banking and other GOTV efforts.

kentuck

(111,053 posts)
4. In my opinion, they will be hard-pressed to duplicate those numbers without DJT on the ballot.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:14 AM
Nov 2020

There are no Republicans in the present line-up that can appeal to their voters like Trump.

Just my opinion.

In It to Win It

(8,225 posts)
9. I agree! I question whether Trump would stump for the GOP since
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:31 AM
Nov 2020

he won’t be president. Would he care?

jimfields33

(15,703 posts)
14. Probably not, but president in party usually does horrible midterms.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:41 AM
Nov 2020

Happened every election. Clinton, Bush, Obama and trump. Maybe we can break the cycle.

Turin_C3PO

(13,912 posts)
16. How did Reagan do
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:44 AM
Nov 2020

when he was President? Did the Dems win the midterms? If not, maybe we can duplicate Reagan’s success. I believe I read that Biden overtook Reagan as the largest margin of victory for a challenger vs. an incumbent.

Turin_C3PO

(13,912 posts)
21. Ok.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:50 AM
Nov 2020

So it appears that we’re going to be in for an uphill climb if past history is any indication. I’m still gonna work my ass off to try and keep Dems in power. Maybe we can pull off another 2018 since Trump’s not on the ballot.

Polybius

(15,336 posts)
27. 2018 happened BECAUSE of Trump
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 01:30 PM
Nov 2020

Many who voted in 2018 came out in force because they hated Trump, and hated how their Representative was supporting him. We lose that in 2022.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,497 posts)
28. Bush gained his first midterm. Killed it, actually. But that was due to Sept. 11. I can't
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 01:35 PM
Nov 2020

imagine right wingers will "rally around the flag" if President Biden were to lead during a national tragedy.

Polybius

(15,336 posts)
26. Trump will leave Biden a huge mess though
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 01:28 PM
Nov 2020

The stupid voters with short-term memories will blame Biden for it, I fear.

Response to chia (Original post)

chia

(2,244 posts)
11. Your last two lines - that's poetry
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:34 AM
Nov 2020

And I don't disagree with you, (particularly about "the majesty of a cup of coffee in the morning), I just don't think the weight of the last four years is going to be shaken off anytime soon, if at all.

Response to chia (Reply #11)

chia

(2,244 posts)
15. Thanks, you do the same. Enjoy that coffee, I just finished mine on a crisp, sunny CA morning
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:42 AM
Nov 2020

And thanks for your timely wisdom, I'll be thinking on it today.

7. We were successful with the slogan...
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:24 AM
Nov 2020

..."Blue Wave" in 2018. I asked on here and other DEM circles why we weren't using the same language to engage the voters in 2020 - crickets.

I think we suffered from overconfidence. We'll have to stoke the flames with messages like "Blue Wave" again in order to maintain the House. Americans like slogans. We need to use "Blue Wave" again or get another one.

Response to UncleTomsEvilBrother (Reply #7)

jimfields33

(15,703 posts)
20. True! Thankfully he will he gone (both)
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 10:49 AM
Nov 2020

But mail in ballots will revert back to absentee ballots with some states having strict guidelines again. The virus allowed a huge increase in mail ins that probably won’t be allowed in most states again.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. Republicans knocked on doors. Our side did mostly phone banking and social media.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 12:54 PM
Nov 2020

They had a presence in people’s faces, we did not.

We talk about following science, but failed to do it at a critical juncture during the election. The science has been clear for months, properly masking up, observing social distancing where possible and following good hygiene practices allows people to do certain activities. Republicans were out in mask with shoes on the ground, we didn’t do that and it likely cost us some offices.

As the American public is fatigued from COVID19 avoidance procedures, we simply are NOT going to do a national lockdown, anyone believing that we can without massive social unrest is living in a fantasy. We have to use proven tactics that generate less resistance and build a successful strategy from there.

Raven

(13,879 posts)
25. No rest, never. There are 70 million of them and many
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 01:00 PM
Nov 2020

are bringing up children to follow in their footsteps. Resting is how we got into this mess in the first place.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
29. USPS, ES&S hackable voting machines...
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 01:37 PM
Nov 2020

Any questions?

What astounds me is that the MSM bought into the narrative that Trump got more votes than in 2016.

Really???

LeftInTX

(25,146 posts)
31. This was not good. She lost more than last time.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 01:44 PM
Nov 2020

She did not campaign as much as she did in 2018. I don't know if it was because the seat was open and considered an easy win or if because Tony Gonzales was so bad that everyone thought he would lose. This is a swing seat.


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