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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's becoming clear as to why the orange felon won't leave office.
Deep down, he fears prosecution even if he won't admit it.
He knows what lies ahead if he is forced out of office.
Prosecute the snake.
If we as citizens care anything about rule of law.
LOCK HIM UP.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)He was voted out. He may be forced to vacate the premises, because he was fired from the job , not forced
Big difference.
Cirque du So-What
(25,812 posts)Whether he leaves willingly is in question, but his pasty, bloated ass will hit the curb on January 20, 2021.
Imallin4Joe
(752 posts)that it will require him being led out in handcuffs, under arrest.
Cirque du So-What
(25,812 posts)Orange Foolius would never allow such a thing to happen. He'll slink out the back door, away from cameras.
Demsrule86
(68,355 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)n/t
Lucky Luciano
(11,242 posts)mnmoderatedem
(3,706 posts)with the deficits he ran up, Pay Per View may offset.
3catwoman3
(23,820 posts)Trump could even keep the money.
Imallin4Joe
(752 posts)RicROC
(1,203 posts)would have been a good time for him to fear prosecution. It would have saved so many small business owners from bankruptcy and our country from being split apart.
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)Yes, he will.
Imallin4Joe
(752 posts)But I'm starting to think that it will require him in handcuffs, under arrest.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)One does not leave the office. The office leaves the outgoing officeholder.
Frasier Balzov
(2,598 posts)I never heard it put this way, but it's spot on and I completely agree.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)I cant remember which show it was on, but it was mentioned during a lengthy discussion with presidential and governmental scholars and experts.
Turin_C3PO
(13,650 posts)Imallin4Joe
(752 posts)lark
(23,006 posts)He loses all that money if he concedes and we all know that everything is only about him. Money means much more to him that America or democracy or freedom or anything else. He has no empathy and doesn't care what he destroys, as long as he profits from it, that's 100% AOK with him. R states are enabling this by refusing to certify the results, but what will they do when their little ploys don't work out?
Trueblue Texan
(2,372 posts)...no mystery. He will be gone before Jan 20
vapor2
(1,215 posts)I think there are at least 6 crimes he is guilty of but the one that stands out is .......manslaughter for the covid deaths that he knew of and ignored (and is still ignoring while sulking about his election loss). LOSER, FAILURE
vapor2
(1,215 posts)RestoreAmerica2020
(3,433 posts)..we need his voice, yet talking about odiousloser#45 is toxic so wouldnt blame him if he took a break--like Biden and Harris have both said, "we've got this!" I think we all need a break from crazy.
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flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)We have a constitution. The people have spoken. There is no fraud. Jan 20 is coming and we'll have a sane president again.
Demsrule86
(68,355 posts)Kaleva
(36,147 posts)mzmolly
(50,957 posts)is the enabling by the Republican Party and various media outlets/pundits.
The R's claim to care about democracy, but it's proven they don't. They're not even deluded (as I once suspected). They are blatantly anti-democratic. They care about maintaining the current social pecking order, at any cost. It's surreal.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,535 posts)I hope the dread is eating him up.
Imallin4Joe
(752 posts)gordianot
(15,226 posts)Lawrence ODonnell called it correctly. Even if he manages to pardon himself of Federal crimes he will be hounded mercilessly by civil, foreign and State courts to the point of total financial collapse. Any Federal violations will need to be separated in time from his pardon and he will not be able to invoke the 5th Amendment. Sure he should have been on the hot seat earlier he is there now for sure.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)I don't understand why we have to wait till Jan. 20th!!! Anyone else would get fired!!! He has never taken the job seriously. He needs to be gone, like "You're fired'.......He hasn't done the job in four years so why are we waiting so long? He has made all of us look like fool's and made us into the world's laughing stock!!!!! And...........he should NOT be able to pardon himself or anyone else either!!! The same rules that apply to a normal president SHOULD not apply to DJT!!!!
gordianot
(15,226 posts)Who knows it may even become bi-partisan?
yaesu
(8,020 posts)ex president. If enough tRumpt up judges get involved this alone could tie things up for months, maybe years.
Illumination
(2,458 posts)Marcuse
(7,399 posts)marieo1
(1,402 posts)LOVE, LOVE, LOVE IT!!!
Imallin4Joe
(752 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)Wtf?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)It is close to him all the time
His son in law's father went to prison
Jon King
(1,910 posts)The criminal and civil suits we shall see about, but the finances are his immediate worry. We live in Palm Beach County and it was a big story 8 years ago when he sold a mansion to a Russian for twice its market value. Once he is out of office and the full view of his finances come under fire, his family organization will collapse. Think Trump golf courses and buildings closing or being sold for large losses, loans being called.
Its comical to think people feel he will be viable in 2024. Over the next 2-3 years his entire world will collapse. Guaranteed Melania and Baron will head for the hills.
Stuart G
(38,365 posts)Being prosecuted is one thing, having to pay huge fines,...and becoming bankrupt again, with no one to
bail him out could be another. Yes, he will have to sell all his assets yes, all his assets
but there is more: What about the divorce settlement?..What about legal fees?..Not just for himself, but
for his .."children"?..
...Maybe a "book", but who will buy that book which is full of more lies?..I don't think that Trump has a
"a clue" as to what is coming.. Speaking fees? Maybe, but will those cover the afore mentioned
expenses?
......... And what about the money he owes?????? that is coming due?
...........Yes, there is only one way to escape this....leaving the U.S.A. and going to where????
.........Well we all know...where, but will he do that?..
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...............Yes...I agree with ..Jon King who posted the above...While I was thinking about this,
Jon King posted the exact same idea....Oh Well......back to the
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sarisataka
(18,222 posts)Because it isn't January 20th yet
obamanut2012
(25,911 posts)wtf
ooky
(8,889 posts)longer hide in the White House from. Maybe Putin already decided he's useless and told him to fuck off, so he's thinking about moving from the White House to the Big House.
Stuart G
(38,365 posts)Cartaphelius
(868 posts)the White House until such time as he is physically REMOVED.
His refusal to accept Mr. Biden's election as fact, while continuing
to run-out-the-clock hoping America is asleep on January 20, 2021.
THAT, is just how criminal and ignorant this Whore-town graduate is.
Proving just how little the moron actually learned.
Whereas the real Wharton should repossess the diploma awarded to
this loser and then publicly publish his grades as well as attendance
record, including Golf Outings frequented.
Dem2
(8,166 posts)He'll leave when he's required to leave.
robbob
(3,514 posts)until the Georgia run off elections are held. Keep the base fired up, pretend that the Georgia election is somehow linked to tRump holding on to the office (a complete fantasy, but these are MAGATS we are talking about), then as soon as those races are resolved they will be free to acknowledge Biden as president elect.
National security and pandemic be damned, Mitch and the gang are ONLY concerned about holding on to power.
Viz
(56 posts)Time to test the OLC memo that says sitting Presidents can not be indicted:
NY AG could quickly test that memo in the courts with a quick indictment just
on the paying off of women prior to the 2016 election- the crime that Cohen
is serving time and Trump is currently un indicted but clearly ordered the payment.
This would solve the validity of that OLC memo so it does not cause any issues in
the future.
barbtries
(28,703 posts)he's grifting like crazy during this time.
C Moon
(12,188 posts)Cha
(295,929 posts)another.
That seems to be why he doesn't want to leave... he should have thought of that 4 years ago when he started Fucking up America and the World.
OneGrassRoot
(22,917 posts)and realize I'm shouting into a void, but SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING!!!
It's stunning the blatant criminality and corruption coming out of this administration, and it seems to have accelerated in the last few weeks.
I can't imagine the new AG NOT going after people in this administration. Otherwise, this shit is normalized and most politicians will be tempted to do sketchy shit in the future if people aren't held accountable now.
Please, please tell me someone reliable you follow is saying Trump and his minions will be charged with crimes. SOON.