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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,710 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 03:37 PM Nov 2020

Biden promised a 'railroad revolution' that could see faster trains and a return to Amtrak's

nostalgic past — here's what Americans might see

President-elect Joe Biden is no stranger to America's rail system.

Having used Amtrak to commute between Washington, DC and his home in Delaware for decades during his time as a US senator, the frequent rider earned the nickname "Amtrak Joe," as the New York Times reported. He even chartered an Amtrak train during his successful 2020 presidential campaign for a whistle-stop tour through the Rust Belt.

In 2016, one of his last acts as vice president was helping secure funding for Amtrak through a $2.45 billion loan for the Northeast Corridor, the name for Amtrak's line between Boston and Washington along which numerous major cities lie, the Associated Press reported. The loan was the largest ever in the Department of Transportation's history with most of it going towards new Acela Express trains capable of traveling 186 miles per hour.

Come January 20, Biden will once again have the opportunity to help and improve the struggling rail system that's reported losses since its inception. On his campaign website, improving the country's railroads are a priority under Biden's clean energy initiatives where the president-elect advocates for a "second great railroad revolution."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-promised-railroad-revolution-could-134400412.html

Good idea. Problem is Republicans only pay lip service to infrastructure.
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Biden promised a 'railroad revolution' that could see faster trains and a return to Amtrak's (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 OP
All aboard with Amtrak Joe! Blue Owl Nov 2020 #1
Kick lunasun Nov 2020 #2
Been watching on the Smithsonian channel Mighty Trains kimbutgar Nov 2020 #3
"'railroad revolution' that could see faster trains" mitch96 Nov 2020 #4
We had a similar proposal in California in '18 and it failed as well. Initech Nov 2020 #12
I'm no engineer and a hyperloop running on existing highway median swale. mitch96 Nov 2020 #14
High speed trains will require new rights of way. Very unlikely to happen. Klaralven Nov 2020 #5
Then we better get started on solving the problems. not_the_one Nov 2020 #11
A good start would be to realign the Amtrak right-of-way from New York to Boston Klaralven Nov 2020 #13
Okay! And maybe it'd be a good stretch to initiate "moving platforms" Hortensis Nov 2020 #15
I hope so. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2020 #6
There is so much work to be done in this nation... Trueblue Texan Nov 2020 #7
I love trains. cwydro Nov 2020 #8
The Steel Interstate tapper Nov 2020 #9
I've long been an advocate of high speed rail. I support this! Initech Nov 2020 #10

kimbutgar

(21,040 posts)
3. Been watching on the Smithsonian channel Mighty Trains
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 03:59 PM
Nov 2020

All over the world they have these awesome trains and the technology and innovations make our Amtrak look ghetto. I’ve rode on Italian railways system and it is more enjoyable than taking an airplane. We took our first trip from Venice Italy up to Zurich, Switzerland it was so gorgeous. We could revitalize our travel industry and lower our carbon footprint by improving train travel in this country and create jobs. The airline industry will be ok.

mitch96

(13,869 posts)
4. "'railroad revolution' that could see faster trains"
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 05:54 PM
Nov 2020

We tried to get this going TWICE in Florida only to get it killed by Scott and the repuke legislature.
Passed by the electorate the repukes had to do a "feasibility" study to the tune of millions of dollars and many years of "work". It just faded away. I would assume the airline and trucking lobbies would not want high speed trains bumping into their profits.. follow the money...
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Initech

(100,029 posts)
12. We had a similar proposal in California in '18 and it failed as well.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 01:22 AM
Nov 2020

Ours was a shitty proposal backed by some really shady people so it's pretty easy to see why it failed. I think under competent leadership we could get it done though.

mitch96

(13,869 posts)
14. I'm no engineer and a hyperloop running on existing highway median swale.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:39 AM
Nov 2020

You have access to the "route" and the dirt to build it on. Not too much environmental impact. Miami to Orlando up the florida turnpike? Daytona to Tampa along I-4? Miami to Jax? along I-95?
A thought...
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Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
5. High speed trains will require new rights of way. Very unlikely to happen.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 06:15 PM
Nov 2020

Speeds over 90 mph require routes with wider curves than slow freight trains, although the higher power of high speed passenger trains does allow for steeper grades as a trade off.

It also requires grade separation. You don't want a 200 mph train hitting a heavy 18 wheeler carrying hazardous freight.

The trains and cars aren't the expensive part.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
11. Then we better get started on solving the problems.
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 12:39 AM
Nov 2020

Or, we could just not do shit.



Now THAT is the republican way.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
13. A good start would be to realign the Amtrak right-of-way from New York to Boston
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 08:00 AM
Nov 2020

Eastern Connecticut into Rhode Island would be a good place to start. There are a number of speed-limiting kinks between New Haven and Providence.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Okay! And maybe it'd be a good stretch to initiate "moving platforms"
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 10:49 AM
Nov 2020

where high-speed trains don't have to stop to take on passengers. What commuter wouldn't want that! Step by step.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,811 posts)
6. I hope so.
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 06:36 PM
Nov 2020

We also need more north-south routes. I really ought to be able to take a train from New Mexico to Denver and points north without going through either Los Angeles or Chicago, which is how it is now.

I have taken the train several times in the past few years and just love it. I had a long train journey planned for back in April that didn't happen, alas. Perhaps I will be able to take it sometime a few years from now.

Trueblue Texan

(2,417 posts)
7. There is so much work to be done in this nation...
Sun Nov 15, 2020, 07:12 PM
Nov 2020

...and so many people ready and willing to provide the labor. There is no shortage of value potential in this nation, only an unwillingness to provide the cash where the value can be developed. If we stop lining the pockets of the ultra-wealthy and start investing in our nation in ways that provide value for all of us, we will see an economic boom.

Initech

(100,029 posts)
10. I've long been an advocate of high speed rail. I support this!
Mon Nov 16, 2020, 12:35 AM
Nov 2020

And yes, air travel and rail travel can coexist. It works in Europe, Japan, China, Australia, and hell the rest of the world!

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