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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe have to come to Realize that trump is not leaving the WH
Of his own accord.
(judging by his tweets in the past 15 minutes)
So my very serious question, what is the procedure here on Jan 20th.
Is there a stand off between Trump's secret service and President Biden??
There must be something in place, for this exact situation.
enough
(13,256 posts)or occupying a building.
Dreampuff
(778 posts)Made the comment that it doesn't matter if he concedes or not and that the US is fully set up and capable of removing trespassers from the White House. It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Klaralven
(7,510 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,592 posts)RockRaven
(14,959 posts)and then he is POTUS. At noon, regardless of whether Biden sweats the oath or not, Trump ceases to be POTUS and the USSS begins treating him as an ex-POTUS, which he is at that point.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)This he would be trespassing
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)out of the WH if he does not go of his own accord. And they will box up all of his shit and send it to Mar-a-Lago or whatever is his civilian residence.
Ahpook
(2,749 posts)After the super spreader has left.
I wouldn't go in that fucking thing until then.
lastlib
(23,216 posts)...I'm guessing....
SomedayKindaLove
(529 posts)And Real Trump are two different people
If he knows what is good for him he will leave around Christmas and never return
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)Who gives a fuck about Christmas? I want him out of there tomorrow.
Thekaspervote
(32,757 posts)superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)And should be torn to the ground after the embarrassment of the last four years.
Put President Biden in a new home.
Noriega the current occupier out by siege if necessary.
onecaliberal
(32,829 posts)Hekate
(90,646 posts)Its not some damn Trump casino to be imploded when hes bankrupted it and walked away.
Hell no.
My Pet Orangutan
(9,241 posts)Leave him a landline to talk to the secret service. Oh yes, and serve him salads. He won't last two days.
solara
(3,836 posts)& he is so humiliated, he will probably go to Mara Lago for the holidays and never return.
No doubt he has a bunker there as well.
sarisataka
(18,615 posts)Trump will be realizing his wishes are not the commands of a king
IggleDuer
(964 posts)They cant get back into the White House. Hell be alone. Cut off the phones, electricity, phone.and other communications. Jam his cell phone. Inform him that the WH will be heavily sprayed for coronavirus and other infestations that he and his staff may leave behind.
Hll go once the spraying starts.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)jalan48
(13,860 posts)spooky3
(34,439 posts)realize how humiliating it would be for the Secret Service, military or other authorities to physically remove him. He will comfortably hide out in Florida, whining and setting up GoFundMes.
underpants
(182,778 posts)But at some point he has to publicly state or demonstrate that he lost. This does not compute with him.
Thekaspervote
(32,757 posts)RazzleCat
(732 posts)He knows he has lost, he is only looking for an exit. Off to Florida for the holidays then just rage tweet, never concede and refuse to go to the inauguration.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)I expect he's going to waffle and try shit behind the scenes to get faithless electors to vote for him (wishful thinking), but yeah, I doubt he'll be anywhere near the White House after Jan 6. It'll be a ghost town. Luckily by then the GSA will almost certainly release the funds (Dec. 1st is the last SoS certification and Dec. 14th is when the electors in the states decide the next President).
This is over.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)nm
Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,999 posts)bullimiami
(13,086 posts)to try to pardon himself.
no scotus could let that stand. it would mean giving that power to Biden.
mokawanis
(4,440 posts)and then Biden will be in the WH and we can finally stop having this discussion.
Bradshaw3
(7,513 posts)It's just ridiculous that people think this is going to happen.
Raine
(30,540 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)These men have seen the craven bully up-close for 4 yrs. They are loyal to the office, not the man.
lettucebe
(2,336 posts)I'm not in the mood to go find out on my own, so can you elaborate? What exactly did he tweet that makes you think this is going to be an issue?
Baltimike
(4,143 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)So will all his other govt connected social media and email accounts, as well as phone and computer access.
For the first time in 4 years, Trump will have no way to communicate on the global scale he's accustomed to. He'll have to go buy new cell phones and computers, and all the necessary peripherals they need. Then he'll need to find someone to run his IT service and sign up for new accounts to everything.
Of course, Trump will have no plan in place to make this transition run smoothly. It will be his usual crap shoot where unintended hilarity ensues.
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Biden will be POTUS.
The Presidency is not a physical location. It resides in the person who has that title. Our United States Secret Service will no longer answer to Trump but instead will attend to Biden.
Whenever they have the peoples White House cleared out, then Biden will step in.
In the mean time, he can run the country from Air Force 1 or other designated locations and transport facilities that are used in the event the President is not at the White House.
I just hope I have access to a TV on this auspicious day so we can watch Trump make a fool of himself. If he has decided to be a squatter.
I happen to agree with the theory that Trump will swan off to Mar-a-Lago for Christmas and just not return. I am much more interested in how they serve him with papers for his cases brewing in NY if he is in Florida. Would he pull a runner??
David__77
(23,372 posts)...
David__77
(23,372 posts)And a coup would not necessarily mean mobilization of armed forces. A coup would be anything other than the organs of state power doing something other than recognizing Biden's executive authority starting on 1/20.
Turin_C3PO
(13,964 posts)a coup is not going to happen. There is a more than zero chance that Trump refuses to leave but he ceases to be president January 21st. At that point the loyalty of the Secret Service and US Marshalls transfers to Biden. And Trump can be led out in handcuffs, if necessary.
JI7
(89,247 posts)He may not concede and keep spewing conspiracy theories but he will never actually put himself out there to protest in any way.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)and start packing up and putting everything in moving vans.
arlyellowdog
(866 posts)My prediction is Trump heads to Florida for good on December 20. Golfing in Virginia wont be ok by that date. He can claim its Christmas vacation. He will go and not return.
Liberty Belle
(9,534 posts)Instruct Secret Service to take him anywhere else he chooses and he no longer will have access to Air Force One.
His belongings will be shipped to him.
End of story. He won't stay barricaded in their forever.
Oh, and no spray tans, hair dyes, access to TV or anything else until he is gone.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)He'll sulk off into the sunset and use it as a rallying cry to his dead-ender base.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)He just won't accept it in his head. He can't just stay.
He'll be removed in whatever manner is deemed necessary by WH security, if he were dumb and arrogant enough to refuse to vacate the premises.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)and not come back. Otherwise ss will remove him I guess.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)the US Government is perfectly capable of removing trespassers from the WH.
Rice4VP
(1,235 posts)or Biden can order the secret service or military to remove him....just a guess.
He has no rights to the WH when his term is up
muriel_volestrangler
(101,308 posts)Obsessing about a hypothetical physical "occupation" of the White House is an unhelpful distraction. As everyone has said, the Secret Service obeys the president, who, from Jan 20th, is Joe Biden. Who sits is a building is also a minor matter; it's who the government follows orders from. That will be Joe Biden.
The actual problem is that Trump is, right now, blocking the cooperation with the transition team. Don't talk about a non-problem 2 months ahead; talk about the real problem the USA has right now.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)He laughed and said, "Getting Trump out of the White House will be easy! Just cut off his cable television and Twitter and he will be out in 30 minutes!"