I understand that this horse is deceased, but---

[Atticus]

A federal court just ruled that Chad Wolf's suspension of DACA was INVALID because his appointment was "unlawful" and he therefore lacked authority to act as head of DHS.

If Trump was only placed in the White House by virtue of illegal voter suppression and the solicited illegal intervention of Russia, why are the appointments of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett not INVALID?

I'll sit down now.

[samnsara]

1. as well as anyone he appointed

[soothsayer]

5. Yeah, I did catch a whiff of that

[Brother Buzz]

6. That's an idea that merits consideration

[Brother Buzz]

13. Yes, of course, but being aware of it will help counter the White Wing Echo Machine

[Budi]

3. I'll have a seat with you. We will wait because it is truth & even Trump knows he's a fake Pres.

[kurtcagle]

4. Denying Trump's Legitimacy

The problem is that the Senate did approve his nominations for SCOTUS. It would be nice to be able to roll back everything Trump did and the basis of his involvement with the Russians in 2016 (and beyond) but politically, it ain't gonna happen. Where Trump failed with Wolf was that he never submitted Wolf to the Senate to be confirmed, since McConnell didn't want the political theater and Trump liked the extra power that came from having someone loyal to him, not the Constitution. It's the lack of approval that's the problem, not the illegitimacy of the action.

[lagomorph777]

9. Trump denied the legitimacy of SCOTUS by ignoring their orders.

Biden should absolutely do the same, until some balance can be restored.

[Atticus]

12. I do understand all that you say, but it is all premised upon the presumption that an illegally

seated POTUS can act legitimately. I agree that a roll back "ain't gonna happen", but that does not mean that it shouldn't.

At 71, I guess I am just no longer willing to accept "that's the way things are". Not an exact quote, but JFK's words still ring true to me: "Some consider the way things are and ask 'Why?' I consider how things could be and ask 'Why not?' "

Thanks for your response.

[wiggs]

7. Agree. Valid argument. wish enough proof (more whistleblowers, more docs) would be

revealed so that more would agree.

[tirebiter]

15. Goes like this

-If Trump was only placed in the White House by virtue of illegal voter suppression and the solicited illegal intervention of Russia, why are the appointments of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett not INVALID?-

Because he won in 2016 by a vote of the electoral college. Wolfe was never passed by the senate

[Atticus]

16. And, he "won" the vote of the electoral college because of illegal voter suppression and

illegal and solicited Russian help in a handful of states.

Anything else?

[soldierant]

17. IIRC

Acting appointments are prefectly vlid up to a point. But there are limits.

Appointing Wolf as "Acting" wasn't illegal. Leaving him there as "Acting" for four years was.

Do people really think Joe and his team are not smart enough to follow the rules? Or even to make the rules work for them (for example, by appointing increasingly progressive people at each deadline until the Republicans get scared)?