John Yang PBS, Took the Vaccine

[janterry]

He's in a high risk group (high BP, Asthma)

Here's what he experienced:

The first one, as I say, the first day, I was fine, the second day, started to get a little achy, a little muscle pain, muscle soreness, joint soreness. I got a fever, not too high. About 99.9 was the highest it went. I got it on a Tuesday, got the shot on a Tuesday, and those symptoms really did persist, until about Saturday was the first day that I really felt fine.

The second shot, the onset was much faster. By that night, I was in bed. I was in bed by 7:00, achy, feverish, fatigue. But as the onset was faster that second time, it resolved faster, too. Again, I got it on a Tuesday. By Wednesday, I was fine.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/what-its-like-to-be-part-of-a-covid-19-vaccine-trial

Note, he's not certain that he didn't get the placebo - but based on his reactions, he thinks he got the 'real' shot.

[LisaL]

1. Sure sounds like he was in a vaccine group.

NT

[LisaL]

2. Sure sounds like he was in a vaccine group.

NT

[blueinredohio]

3. If he only has asthma and high b.p. and experienced symptoms like that

what's it going to do to someone who has serious issues?

[janterry]

5. I have to say, his description made me a bit hesitant

I wait eagerly for a vaccine, like all of us. But that kind of scared me a bit.

[blueinredohio]

8. I know, that's what I'm saying.

I have a lot more issues than that. What's it going to do to me? My pcp had me ask my rheumatologist if I could take a measles booster because its a live virus. There are a lot of questions that have to be answered before I would take it.,

[LisaL]

13. Sure beats ending up in ICU on a ventilator, no?

NT

[janterry]

15. We'll see when the data is published

One person's experience is just qualitative data.

I'm interested to see the population they tested and the breath of reactions.

[Rice4VP]

4. Why would anyone want to go through all of this?

The most that happens to me after the flu shot is a sore arm. Very discouraging

[janterry]

6. Hopefully, his experience is not

universal. I guess we'll learn more from the data

[LuckyCharms]

7. Everyone reacts differently to vaccines.

I literally have no symptoms with a flu shot, not even a sore arm. Same thing with the pneumonia shot.

However, the second round of my shingles shot knocked me on my ass for a week.

[KPN]

11. True. Some people get Guillaine-Barre Syndrome in responbse to flu shots. I personally know three

people who have. And my oldest son had GBS following a minor bout with the flu when he was 12. Having up-close experience with a debilitating condition like GBS makes me cautious about any COVID vaccine at this point.

[LuckyCharms]

14. I understand.

and I don't disagree with you. There is a certain amount of risk in every vaccine.

Based on my own personal history, my philosophy is to get the vaccine and hope for the best.

[MLAA]

9. His symptoms were far lighter than a full blown serious case of life threatening

Covid. I could stand to feel poorly for a few days if it would protect me against a serious case that would land me in the hospital and possibly on a ventilator.

It’s like insurance. Paying a couple hundred dollars a month for home insurance is a pain. Seeing your home burn down and losing everything (hundreds of thousands) would be devastating. 🙂

[LisaL]

12. Because covid is a potentially deadly disease.

NT

[luvs2sing]

10. Sounds like my usual annual flu vaccine reaction.

And a whole hell of a lot easier than those two shingles shots!

[lettucebe]

16. Placebo generally gives same side effects as real thing

The brain is quite the thing. Most of the time you can trick your brain simply by telling yourself whatever it is you want to believe. That's why it's seemingly so hard to change beliefs -- most of our time is spent repeating over and over and over whatever is the faulty belief. (I can't resist ice cream, uh, yes, you can, stop saying that!). What works on beliefs is to change your self talk to "I decide if I want ice cream or not." Softens the belief that you don't have the power, said often it becomes the new belief.

With a placebo one wants to believe they got the real drug, hence side-effects to prove it. It's a known phenomenon.

Now when it comes to getting the virus or not, no placebo is going to stop one getting the virus, and no placebo is going to cause a real virus -- it's the aches, fever, that sort of thing that's fairly easy to conjure on your own.

When I was younger I learned to talk myself out of getting ill and it worked pretty well. I haven't been sick for many many years. All I do when I feel sort of achy or whatever is tell myself, "No, I don't have time for this, I feel good, I'm strong." Instead of "Oh, no, I'm coming down with something." Seemed to work for me.