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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,937 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:26 PM Nov 2020

Progressives turned out for Joe Biden. Now they want a big role in his administration.

Joe Biden won't be sworn in for another 64 days, but the President-elect is already under pressure from activist groups to bring progressive leaders into his administration -- and close its doors to establishment figures with cozy relationships to Wall Street, defense contractors and the fossil fuel industry.

The pressure campaign has played out in public, with the release of open letters and lists of acceptable candidates for top Cabinet positions, via private calls with potential nominees, and on social media, where progressive groups have warned the incoming administration against reneging on Biden's promise to forge an aggressive new path in the fight against climate change.

Top progressives are, for now, sounding a cautiously optimistic tone following the release of Biden's "agency review teams" and his quick decision to name longtime adviser Ron Klain, who has built bonds across ideological lines, as his White House chief of staff. But there are potential fights on the horizon and the uncertainty surrounding control of the Senate could further complicate a detente that has largely carried over from the campaign. If Democrats fail to win both run-off elections in Georgia early next year, the body will remain under the control of Republican Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell -- and everything from Biden's legislative agenda to his Cabinet nominations would likely face partisan blockades.

There are also concerns among some progressives over whether the coalition has the capacity to speak with one voice on a broad range of issues, including arenas where it is less organized and engaged, like national security.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/progressives-turned-out-for-joe-biden-now-they-want-a-big-role-in-his-administration/ar-BB1b5ydh?li=BBnb7Kz

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Progressives turned out for Joe Biden. Now they want a big role in his administration. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2020 OP
I trust Joe Biden knows what to do still_one Nov 2020 #1
Joe is progressive. He won; he can have whomever he wants. LakeArenal Nov 2020 #2
People from all across the spectrum turned out for Joe frazzled Nov 2020 #3
I believe China is fully on board the fight climate change train. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2020 #4
Of course. Diversity has many faces, and progressive is one of them. Roisin Ni Fiachra Nov 2020 #5
Well get in line! The 78,000,000 Biden Voters, staff, media, pollsters, lawyers, ... Budi Nov 2020 #6
Hear, hear! Sneederbunk Nov 2020 #8
Biden & Harris Broke the "79 Million Barrier" Cha Nov 2020 #10
Wow! Add another million to that list then. Better get in line for requests I guess! Budi Nov 2020 #19
Democrats turned out for Dems, and to be Dem is to be progressive. Hortensis Nov 2020 #7
Joe is Progressive.. 79 Million Turned Out for Cha Nov 2020 #9
No, Joe is not progressive, notinkansas Nov 2020 #11
He's not? ismnotwasm Nov 2020 #12
Biden doesn't call himself progressive but he has gotten JI7 Nov 2020 #16
YES JOE BIDEN & Kamala Harris ARE Cha Nov 2020 #14
So, look, Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #13
Biden isn't Sanders. Biden actually has a record of a getting things done JI7 Nov 2020 #15
Yes, thanks, because that's so on track with the point being made about progressives. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2020 #17
Actually making progress is better than just labeling oneself JI7 Nov 2020 #18
"I am not a socialist".. Joe Biden ... BUT..he is a Democrat & his policies ARE most progressive Budi Nov 2020 #20
Biden's policies & legislative bills certainly ARE progressive Budi Nov 2020 #21

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
2. Joe is progressive. He won; he can have whomever he wants.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:32 PM
Nov 2020

I’m still upset about the “war on Established Democrats.

Those folks lost in the primary so too bad.
Don’t expect a post in established Democratic government.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
3. People from all across the spectrum turned out for Joe
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:33 PM
Nov 2020

Even Republicans and Independents. Everybody wants a piece of the pie, so no one group should expect all the ponies.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
4. I believe China is fully on board the fight climate change train.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:34 PM
Nov 2020

Russia is not. If China and the U.S. can agree to do business with the goal of co-leadership on the world stage to fight CC, how will the fossil fuel industry block that effort?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. Well get in line! The 78,000,000 Biden Voters, staff, media, pollsters, lawyers, ...
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:43 PM
Nov 2020

campaign workers in 50 States, donors, security, speech writers, & more, and all together should equal roughly 100,000,000 fellow Biden supporters will be right there in line with ya.

Maybe pack a lunch, it's A REALLY LONG LINE !!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
19. Wow! Add another million to that list then. Better get in line for requests I guess!
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 06:44 PM
Nov 2020

Thanks Cha!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Democrats turned out for Dems, and to be Dem is to be progressive.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:18 PM
Nov 2020

Last edited Tue Nov 17, 2020, 04:06 PM - Edit history (2)

Liberal Democrats elect liberal Democrats, not anti-Democrats who claim we're all corrupt. 3/4 of Sanders' primary supporters in 2016 were solid Democrats, fewer in 2018 and 2020 because of the others, that other hostile 1/4. Of course they turned out for Biden because they're DEMOCRATS.

And of course Biden's administration and goals represent the choice of progressive liberal Democrats.

As for others, the far fewer in the radical fringe who claim Democrats are corrupt and without principles, what's not to understand what only 4 or so of them out of 235 elected to the house Democratic caucus means? With the help of hostile MSM? While all other candidates were rejected by Democratic voters every election?

Or that most promise every election not to vote for the Democratic candidate? We owe those the obscurity that will come with return of wellbeing.

Bottom line for this OP is: Every attack on Democrats gets the "Progressives" fringe enormous press from hostile media, MSM and everything else. That's why they CAN'T take on a big role working WITH Democrats on our progressive agenda, instead of against, even if they wanted to.

And of course they don't. Working with progressive legislators to actually achieve progressive goals would cost them not just their usefulness and with it their media exposure, but their political identity and reason for political being. What they want is more power to oppose.

They know that. The Biden team knows that. Everyone should know that.

Cha

(297,167 posts)
9. Joe is Progressive.. 79 Million Turned Out for
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:32 PM
Nov 2020

his Platform.. including The Democratic Base that is POC in Detroit, Philly, Georgia & all over the Nation.

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
11. No, Joe is not progressive,
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:41 PM
Nov 2020

but I have hopes that he is wise enough to not discount progressive voices.

While many may have approved of his platform, I suspect that ridding the country of trump was a larger consideration.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
16. Biden doesn't call himself progressive but he has gotten
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:51 PM
Nov 2020

more things done than those claiming to be progressives.

Cha

(297,167 posts)
14. YES JOE BIDEN & Kamala Harris ARE
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:49 PM
Nov 2020

PROGRESSIVE. They WON.. They Got the Votes.

Joe Won Overwhelmingly on his Platform to Be our Candidate EVEN Before the GE.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
13. So, look,
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:45 PM
Nov 2020

you can't spend the primary and the election talking about how the progressives just need to be quiet and someone like Sanders can't win because he's too liberal, but just turn out and vote for Biden like you are supposed, and, then, when that happens act like Biden is Sanders. He's not a liberal progressive. And I'm fine with that. I'm ridiculously happy that he won. But the progressives did what was asked of them. Recognize that. Reward that.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
15. Biden isn't Sanders. Biden actually has a record of a getting things done
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 03:50 PM
Nov 2020

Biden also won the Primary.


Cuthbert Allgood

(4,921 posts)
17. Yes, thanks, because that's so on track with the point being made about progressives.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 04:09 PM
Nov 2020

Thanks. You've cleared it all up for me.

for the impaired.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
20. "I am not a socialist".. Joe Biden ... BUT..he is a Democrat & his policies ARE most progressive
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 06:48 PM
Nov 2020

The thing he declares he is definately not, is a socialist.

He made that clear at the 1st Primary debate.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
21. Biden's policies & legislative bills certainly ARE progressive
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 07:11 PM
Nov 2020

What he is not, is a Socialist.

How anyone can say Biden isn't progressive hasn't learned of his progressive & Democratic legislative history.

Joe has always done the heavy lifting to get Democratic & progressive policies pushed thru , often succeeding against the hard headed Republucans.

He's done more than grandstand for his political image, he's quietly done his job in the trenches of our legislature.
And that record is why Joe Biden is America's next President.

People of all stripes know his might & his fight.
And his unwavering ethics has earned him the trust of 79,000,000 voters as of Nov 3, 2020.


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