Tue Nov 17, 2020, 01:59 PM

I'm sorry but I think Joes wrong on this....

WASHINGTON — President-elect Joe Biden has privately told advisers that he doesn't want his presidency to be consumed by investigations of his predecessor, according to five people familiar with the discussions, despite pressure from some Democrats who want inquiries into President Donald Trump, his policies and members of his administration.

Biden has raised concerns that investigations would further divide a country he is trying to unite and risk making every day of his presidency about Trump, said the sources, who spoke on background to offer details of private conversations.

They said he has specifically told advisers that he is wary of federal tax investigations of Trump or of challenging any orders Trump may issue granting immunity to members of his staff before he leaves office. One adviser said Biden has made it clear that he "just wants to move on."

[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/president-elect-biden-wary-trump-focused-investigations-sources-say-n1247959|

Short article, worth reading.

Anyway..... I think this is wrong. But then, I never agree 100% with ...well.... lol, just about anyone. Pay particular attention to the sentence "Biden has raised concerns that investigations would further divide a country he is trying to unite ..." Well, in my opinion trying to "unite" us is a lost cause. The republican leadership has shown absolutely NO inclination for unity. On the contrary they seem to respect nothing but raw power. Their "base" is lost to us period. WE as a Nation face a grave threat in the rwnj's. Do you really think Joe can talk the Proud Boys and their ilk into unity? How about even just the rank and file republican voters? THEY just elected Qanon supporters for christs sake! Indeed, we'll have 2 minimum of these people making our laws! Can YOU unite with people like that? Can YOU unite with Proud Boys? Can YOU unite with Boogaloo supporters? The time for rose colored glasses is gone. We're fighting for the very idea of Democracy now. We're fighting for the Constitution now. Do we have the courage? The ones who want to do away with democracy and the Constitution sure do.

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I'm sorry but I think Joes wrong on this.... (Original post)	BigOleDummy	Nov 2020	OP
Totally Wrong	Me.	Nov 2020	#1
If Biden wants a Democratic House and Senate in 2022,	Eyeball_Kid	Nov 2020	#7
Bingo! If he lets criminals slide because they're POLITICIANS, he's going to lose the base.	BComplex	Nov 2020	#28
I don't agree...turn it over to justice and the states. The House election shows clearly what	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#41
Biden has to do both at the same time. It is the challenge he must face.	UCmeNdc	Nov 2020	#53
He can't do both...and has no business interfering with Justice anymore than Trump did.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#59
my fear is that he will lean (in deep private) on the DOJ to NOT go after any (or most) of them	Celerity	Nov 2020	#54
Post removed	Post removed	Nov 2020	#64
I fear you may be right. I was trying to have some hope, but I may have been overly optimistic.	Celerity	Nov 2020	#66
He should just leave it to the Justice Dept. I think he's going to have...	brush	Nov 2020	#2
That's exactly what the article says	wryter2000	Nov 2020	#19
This!	russiamommy	Nov 2020	#43
I thought he was going to stay out of the Fed's business?	Evergreen Emerald	Nov 2020	#3
You mean DOJ, not the Fed, right?	lagomorph777	Nov 2020	#32
Can you say, "Disillusioned Obama voters stayed home during the 2010 mid-terms?"	Eyeball_Kid	Nov 2020	#4
The IP law expired after Ken Starr- without a Dem senate, the law won't be revived	Fiendish Thingy	Nov 2020	#10
Can I say that fuck those voters...thanks to them we had six years of nothing...so how did they	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#42
If Biden appoints a weak AG who won't prosecute Trump, he will have failed as president. Nt	Fiendish Thingy	Nov 2020	#5
agree, and who would you support for AG?	Celerity	Nov 2020	#55
Do you guys consider what is happening right now in this country. We all hate Trump and want	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#57
A fully functioning justice system is an essential component of democracy	Fiendish Thingy	Nov 2020	#63
Well if you piss off people who need help and the GOP gets back in 2022 (house and keeps Senate)	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#65
I completely disagree- if Dems take senate they should govern as if they lose both houses in 2022	Fiendish Thingy	Nov 2020	#67
If we don't take the Senate and the House investigates...we will lose it in 2022.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#68
Your choice: anger republicans or anger young progressives, who turned out in record numbers	Fiendish Thingy	Nov 2020	#70
I would also suggest that unless we get two senate seats in Georgia...the GOP will block a	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#58
Too early to judge anything as good or bad.	LakeArenal	Nov 2020	#6
Only Investigate People Who Likely Committed Crimes	DanieRains	Nov 2020	#8
Leave it to the states!! Nt	USALiberal	Nov 2020	#9
READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE!!!	StarfishSaver	Nov 2020	#11
This!!!!	Bleacher Creature	Nov 2020	#15
This is at least the third thread today about this bs	StarfishSaver	Nov 2020	#18
The headline does suck	wryter2000	Nov 2020	#22
Don t people read the articles they're commenting on before commenting on them?	StarfishSaver	Nov 2020	#24
When I started working in communications...	Act_of_Reparation	Nov 2020	#27
Who is "we"?	StarfishSaver	Nov 2020	#39
Okie dokie.	Act_of_Reparation	Nov 2020	#44
It's not about what works out for me.	StarfishSaver	Nov 2020	#48
Are you not understanding what I'm saying, or just being willfully obtuse?	Act_of_Reparation	Nov 2020	#71
This!! The title of the OP is very deceptive	Thekaspervote	Nov 2020	#23
Maybe people have read and have a different take on it than you	melman	Nov 2020	#25
No. They obviously didn't read it.	StarfishSaver	Nov 2020	#40
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Thank you. He also said (if it was portrayed correctly) that he doesn't wan his administration....	George II	Nov 2020	#31
Unfortunately, the lede got buried in the bad headline.	Tommy_Carcetti	Nov 2020	#33
Glad To REad Your Comments	Me.	Nov 2020	#35
IF we had a fucking functioning democracy this is how it would work	Cosmocat	Nov 2020	#36
Yep. This shit is getting really old.	GoCubsGo	Nov 2020	#52
This is what I thought he was doing	Dem2	Nov 2020	#60
I agree that this is not the right path	essaynnc	Nov 2020	#12
I could've told you that.	underpants	Nov 2020	#13
I think he's right. People are hurting and need help	Rice4VP	Nov 2020	#14
I don't want it to be 'consumed by investigations' either,	elleng	Nov 2020	#16
"He would leave decisions up to the Justice Department"	wryter2000	Nov 2020	#17
Or in other words how our democracy worked for hundreds of years	Cosmocat	Nov 2020	#37
He said he would leave it to his independent Justice Department	mcar	Nov 2020	#20
I think this is being a bit overblown	EarlG	Nov 2020	#21
Absolutely wrong. No accountability. Chump will be back then.	kairos12	Nov 2020	#26
He didn't say he didn't want any investigations, he said he doesn't want his administration....	George II	Nov 2020	#29
Agree.	PirateRo	Nov 2020	#30
I heard that quote, and I think he's just distancing himself from whatever the AG decides to do.	ecstatic	Nov 2020	#34
If a deep cleaning of Trump and the GOP does not occur, the Biden administration will	PufPuf23	Nov 2020	#45
We need the Senate stat	flamingdem	Nov 2020	#46
I read the article and it makes it seem	marlakay	Nov 2020	#47
What if he reappointed Mueller special prosecutor and told him to finish what he started?	Buckeyeblue	Nov 2020	#49
No, the AG and the states can do it...or not. Joe Biden needs to stay away from it.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#56
I guess I meant the AG could appoint a special prosecutor. I don't think Biden can just do it.	Buckeyeblue	Nov 2020	#61
No special prosecutors...it will be seen as coming from Biden.	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#62
No. He is correct.	GoCubsGo	Nov 2020	#50
Joe's	Yeehah	Nov 2020	#51
This is a pointless thread really....we need to be all in getting Georgia without which we will	Demsrule86	Nov 2020	#69

Response to BigOleDummy (Original post)

Tue Nov 17, 2020, 02:03 PM

Me. (34,973 posts)

1. Totally Wrong

THe long history of no consequences for criminal cons have led to the situation we have today. Why would they change of they have nothing to fear and allowed to keep inflicting damage on the American people.?

I'm sorry but I think Joes wrong on this....

1. Totally Wrong

7. If Biden wants a Democratic House and Senate in 2022,

28. Bingo! If he lets criminals slide because they're POLITICIANS, he's going to lose the base.

41. I don't agree...turn it over to justice and the states. The House election shows clearly what

53. Biden has to do both at the same time. It is the challenge he must face.

59. He can't do both...and has no business interfering with Justice anymore than Trump did.

54. my fear is that he will lean (in deep private) on the DOJ to NOT go after any (or most) of them

66. I fear you may be right. I was trying to have some hope, but I may have been overly optimistic.

2. He should just leave it to the Justice Dept. I think he's going to have...

19. That's exactly what the article says

43. This!

3. I thought he was going to stay out of the Fed's business?

32. You mean DOJ, not the Fed, right?

4. Can you say, "Disillusioned Obama voters stayed home during the 2010 mid-terms?"

10. The IP law expired after Ken Starr- without a Dem senate, the law won't be revived

42. Can I say that fuck those voters...thanks to them we had six years of nothing...so how did they

5. If Biden appoints a weak AG who won't prosecute Trump, he will have failed as president. Nt

55. agree, and who would you support for AG?

57. Do you guys consider what is happening right now in this country. We all hate Trump and want

63. A fully functioning justice system is an essential component of democracy

65. Well if you piss off people who need help and the GOP gets back in 2022 (house and keeps Senate)

67. I completely disagree- if Dems take senate they should govern as if they lose both houses in 2022

68. If we don't take the Senate and the House investigates...we will lose it in 2022.

70. Your choice: anger republicans or anger young progressives, who turned out in record numbers

58. I would also suggest that unless we get two senate seats in Georgia...the GOP will block a

6. Too early to judge anything as good or bad.

8. Only Investigate People Who Likely Committed Crimes

9. Leave it to the states!! Nt

11. READ THE WHOLE ARTICLE!!!

15. This!!!!

18. This is at least the third thread today about this bs

22. The headline does suck

24. Don t people read the articles they're commenting on before commenting on them?

27. When I started working in communications...

39. Who is "we"?

44. Okie dokie.

48. It's not about what works out for me.

71. Are you not understanding what I'm saying, or just being willfully obtuse?

23. This!! The title of the OP is very deceptive

25. Maybe people have read and have a different take on it than you

40. No. They obviously didn't read it.

38. ⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧⇧

31. Thank you. He also said (if it was portrayed correctly) that he doesn't wan his administration....

33. Unfortunately, the lede got buried in the bad headline.

35. Glad To REad Your Comments

36. IF we had a fucking functioning democracy this is how it would work

52. Yep. This shit is getting really old.

60. This is what I thought he was doing

12. I agree that this is not the right path

13. I could've told you that.

14. I think he's right. People are hurting and need help

16. I don't want it to be 'consumed by investigations' either,

17. "He would leave decisions up to the Justice Department"

37. Or in other words how our democracy worked for hundreds of years

20. He said he would leave it to his independent Justice Department

21. I think this is being a bit overblown

26. Absolutely wrong. No accountability. Chump will be back then.

29. He didn't say he didn't want any investigations, he said he doesn't want his administration....

30. Agree.

34. I heard that quote, and I think he's just distancing himself from whatever the AG decides to do.

45. If a deep cleaning of Trump and the GOP does not occur, the Biden administration will

46. We need the Senate stat

47. I read the article and it makes it seem

49. What if he reappointed Mueller special prosecutor and told him to finish what he started?

56. No, the AG and the states can do it...or not. Joe Biden needs to stay away from it.

61. I guess I meant the AG could appoint a special prosecutor. I don't think Biden can just do it.

62. No special prosecutors...it will be seen as coming from Biden.

50. No. He is correct.

51. Joe's

69. This is a pointless thread really....we need to be all in getting Georgia without which we will