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Stinky The Clown

(67,790 posts)
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 10:08 PM Nov 2020

I cannot be unconvinced that all of this - ALL of it - is in service to Putin

The election challenges destabilize the country with benefit to Putin.

The disenfranchisement of a significant minority of our citizens destabilizes the country with benefit to Putin.

Organized targeting of our minority populations destabilizes the country with benefit to Putin.

Covid intentional inaction destabilizes the country with benefit to Putin.

Actions in the Middle East pulling back troops opens a door for Putin

Saber rattling against Iran destabilizes Western alliances which fulfills a goal of Putin's.

Trump, Graham, and McConnell are serving well their financial and electoral benefactor, Putin. How can this not be treason?

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I cannot be unconvinced that all of this - ALL of it - is in service to Putin (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Nov 2020 OP
I mean, who spends the 4th of July in Russia? MissB Nov 2020 #1
Same page blm Nov 2020 #2
The long history of the far right in the USA cannot be minimized. enough Nov 2020 #3
Don't forget Ron Johnson AllyCat Nov 2020 #4
I was just thinking that... if it was just Repubs acting badly, they'd have thrown NRaleighLiberal Nov 2020 #5
"All roads lead to putin" SheltieLover Nov 2020 #6
Some, to me, beyond question; the shift of power to Russia, Hortensis Nov 2020 #7
Done to Benefit the Republican Party erpowers Nov 2020 #8

MissB

(15,805 posts)
1. I mean, who spends the 4th of July in Russia?
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 10:09 PM
Nov 2020

That’s been a head scratcher for me for a couple of years.

enough

(13,256 posts)
3. The long history of the far right in the USA cannot be minimized.
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 10:21 PM
Nov 2020

Blaming it on Putin keeps us from understanding what has been been going on all this time.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,014 posts)
5. I was just thinking that... if it was just Repubs acting badly, they'd have thrown
Tue Nov 17, 2020, 10:29 PM
Nov 2020

in the towel by now. Something more malevolent is being hidden/blocked - if this thing finally breaks, it could take lots with it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Some, to me, beyond question; the shift of power to Russia,
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 07:05 AM
Nov 2020

and other hostile states, has been enormous and ongoing.

But out of malevolent vindictiveness against Americans, including Republicans, also. Tammy Duckworth says Trump wants to blow everything up as he goes out the door, and I believe spite has always been a big factor in almost everything he does. Thank goodness for the tempering effects of fear of consequences to himself AND calculations of how his actions would go over with the base he wants to hold onto. He's talking of running again, and of course there're his plans for continuing his glorious rallies on his own show.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
8. Done to Benefit the Republican Party
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:53 AM
Nov 2020

I think most of this is being done because it benefits the Republican Party. Republicans are challenging the election results because they lost an election they wanted to win. Republican are attempting disenfranchise certain minority voters because that group of minority voters does not vote for the Republican Party. For years the Republican Party has supported taking away the right of those who do not for its candidates. Remember, Republicans, like Ann Coulter, have called for laws that would disenfranchise multiple groups (women, immigrants, and youth) that have shown a trend towards not voting for Republican candidates. Remember, in 2016 Ann Coulter for a law that would prevent immigrants from voting if their grandparents had not been able to vote in the United States. Many pointed out to Coulter that a law like that would have prevented Donald Trump from being able to vote in the 2016 election. Clearly, Coulter had not thought out her idea, but the idea was not aimed at voters who looked like Donald Trump; it was aimed at people Coulter thought would not vote for Trump.

Much of what you mentioned is happening because the Republican Party want them to happen. Those things would be happening even if they did not benefit Putin. The actions they Republican Party has been taking in recent years is really about the Party trying to stay in power while feeling they would not be able to stay in power if they did not take those actions. Those actions are not done to benefit Putin; they are done to benefit the Republican Party.

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