Defeated, in legal peril

[struggle4progress]

JUAN WILLIAMS, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 11/16/20 06:00 AM EST

... No president has ever gone to jail. But Trump is pushing his luck.

His biggest risk is a guilty verdict if a case comes out of the criminal probe being led by Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance.

Vance is looking at “extensive and protracted criminal conduct at the Trump Organization,” according to court documents ...

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/526061-juan-williams-defeated-trump-is-in-legal-peril

[Sherman A1]

1. We can only hope

that he is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I would love to see him and his tribe lose their assets and get stuck with huge legal bills.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

2. EXILE HIM!...

Old punishment but get totally rid of him. No communication device, him just gone, gone, gone.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

9. Not a bad idea. But revoke his citizenship before sending him off.

He didn't have any problem sending parentless toddlers out of the country by themselves.

[lagomorph777]

13. Are you implying that Trump is a toddler?

Personally, I'd like to see him live out his days in a former baby jail, eating moldy bread and drinking toilet water, and sleeping on concrete.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

18. We might be better off with him gone from American soil.

Maybe one of his maga fans could donate a Trump boat parade vessel large enough for him and the family. No social media privileges. Just a lifetime cruise in international waters.

[lagomorph777]

24. But no flaming boats, right?

'Cause that would be bad.

[NoRoadUntravelled]

29. No flaming boats. Just an easy cruise that he can not disembark from.

Nothing fancy. A nice craft with a small kitchen that can accommodate prison food meals.

[Lonestarblue]

20. Unfortunately, we will not be rid of Trump even if he leaves the country.

Trump will still have access to Twitter and Facebook. And he wants to establish his own Internet-based media company. He can broadcast his lies and sow discord from anywhere.

My hope is that he gets convicted of crimes in New York. The only way to lessen his ongoing campaigns against democracy is to put him in jail.

[LeftishBrit]

31. So long as it's not to the UK!

[Laelth]

35. The UAE looks more likely.

I am fairly certain that the UK would never take him, and I think he knows that.

-Laelth

[dawg day]

3. Is there any info about his state taxes?

Could he be in trouble for that? He has to have done similar tricks as he did with US taxes.

[gordianot]

4. Vance has had other opportunities and let them go.

Sorry I just have a suspicious nature. Even though Trump will get his blanket Federal Pardon he loses 5th Amendment protection. When your whole Business model is crooked you have to be able to keep your dates straight. As crooks go Donald Trump is not that bright and will still go not only bankrupt but destitute.

[rso]

7. Vance

I think Vance will go after him vigorously after he’s no longer President.

[lagomorph777]

15. NY AG James won't let him off. She's on the case too.

[BComplex]

37. I hope she keeps Vance in check: he has a history of selling out.

I also read a while back on DU somewhere that he has certain ties to trump.

[lagomorph777]

39. +1

[gab13by13]

19. I agree,

The proof is in the pudding with Vance for me. I have my doubts.

[Borchkins]

21. I don't trust Vance.

[safeinOhio]

5. I'm asking for justice, not revenge.

I would not want to take on any tRump type traits.

[marble falls]

11. +100! We are not them.

[OLDMDDEM]

6. Something needs to be done

There is too much we don't know. Dumpy and his kids are hip deep in crime; we just don't know all the details yet.

[Laelth]

8. Vance has been slow-playing this prosecution.

Half the time, I actually believe that he is shielding Trump. I have more faith in the NY AG.

-Laelth

[gab13by13]

22. I agree

[crickets]

34. +1

[kcr]

10. Pure speculation on my part

Regardless he should be charged, but I can't help but wonder about the odds a jury convicts him. For instance, it's bad enough juries are reluctant to vote to convict police officers. Voting to convict a president, even if it's Trump, may be harder.

[marble falls]

14. Half the potential jury pool voted for Trump. But we do need justice. Cops have been given ...

... an explicit license to kill, which makes it very hard to prosecute them for a homicide on the job. The get out of jail card for them is: "I thought I saw a weapon/he was grabbing for my gun/I felt my life was threatened" and repeating it over and over and over.

[dustyscamp]

12. I don't trust this Vance guy at all

https://www.vogue.com/article/cyrus-vance-jr-didnt-prosecute-weinstein-ivanka-donald-trump-jr

[Illumination]

16. What have we been hearing throughout trump's presidency? The answers is:

"THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED!" Therefore, it would be "UNPRECEDENTED" (& very appropriate) to throw his mob boss criminal a** in prison!...

[Pacifist Patriot]

17. Last sentence says it all for me.

"...honesty and accountability are part of national healing."

[Harker]

23. Rudy to the rescue. n/t

[usaf-vet]

25. Revoke his passport. Ground his private jet(s). Label him a threat to national security.

[Grins]

26. If E. Jean Carroll doesn't get him first! NM

[Ferrets are Cool]

27. Please let it be so.

[Diraven]

28. That's why he threatened to withhold vaccine from NY

He wants to use the lives of New Yorkers as leverage to keep himself out of jail there.

[jalan48]

30. I can see fines for Trump and his family but not jail time. They deserve it but I don't think our

current political structure wants to set a precedent for jailing former Presidents. Unfortunately, I think today's Republicans would do it in a heartbeat if they had the chance.

[BobTheSubgenius]

32. You can't imagine how happy and relieved I'll be.

The day that something concrete and substantial is FINALLY hung around that maniac's neck like a radioactive albatross will be a day for cartwheels and celebration.

[Blue Owl]

33. To the Klink with Mr. Stink

Fuck him and his criminal family.

[Drunken Irishman]

36. Juan Williams with the hammer.

[Cha]

38. KR