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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:47 PM Nov 2020

The myth of Trump as a stereotypical "manly man" is a textbook example of cognitive dissonance.

He has never developed callouses or, for that matter, gotten his hands dirty.

He, like all cowards, has never had the "grit" to directly confront an adversary. He fires people with tweets, not face to face. He hires attorneys to punish those who oppose or anger him and he has the ignoramus thugs at his rallies punch protestors who challenge his hateful spew.

He is so vain about his appearance that he wears lifts in his shoes, dyes what hair he has left roughly the same color as the orange makeup he apparently applies with a ping pong paddle and, he doesn't comb his hair---he has it styled.

He's never pumped gas, changed an oil filter, split firewood or shoveled snow.

And, how to say this---he is just about the "prissiest" male I've ever seen have his face photoshopped onto Stallone's younger body. (Have you ever noticed how he never fully extends his pointing finger when he waves it in the air? His other three fingers are never closed onto his palm and this makes his tiny fingers look even more stunted.)

He is afraid of bugs, doesn't like dogs and has the self-control of a spoiled two year old.

THIS is what all you pick-'em-up truck drivin', gun-totin', beer drinkin', crotch scratchin', ass grabbin' macho men consider "manly"?

Most of us consider such people shallow and superficial whether they happen to have a penis or not.


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The myth of Trump as a stereotypical "manly man" is a textbook example of cognitive dissonance. (Original Post) Atticus Nov 2020 OP
he is afraid of blood too Yonnie3 Nov 2020 #1
Only Incels see him as an Alpha Manly Man Type JI7 Nov 2020 #2
Oh, and have you seen him... "dance"? Blue Owl Nov 2020 #3
!!! ,.... !!!! magicarpet Nov 2020 #4
He is full of hate and grievance The Genealogist Nov 2020 #5
Trump is as manly as a marshmallow strap-on dildo. Xipe Totec Nov 2020 #6
Your comment is what I have been actually saying kimbutgar Nov 2020 #7
They are stupid, but know he is not like them but they DO wanna be rich/powerful like him. Tommymac Nov 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author kimbutgar Nov 2020 #8
Things I bet he has never done... ginny skinny Nov 2020 #9
of course he hasn't handmade34 Nov 2020 #15
Or... birdographer Nov 2020 #24
What a terrible way to live. Really. flying_wahini Nov 2020 #27
Germaphobe as well 4Q2u2 Nov 2020 #10
The right believes that selfishness is manly. NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2020 #11
They also believe lack of empathy and fear is manly misanthrope Nov 2020 #16
Exactly NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2020 #35
See also: Wayne, John. nt Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2020 #12
Yes, the epitome of manhood: NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2020 #36
Fuck John Wayne, that white supremacist, homophobic piece of dogshit Celerity Nov 2020 #39
The irony of his homophobia NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2020 #40
Indeed! nt Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #13
True. That is no more realistic than the treestar Nov 2020 #14
Good point PatSeg Nov 2020 #21
Marilyn Monroe was more masculine than that fat fuck. BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #17
There is nothing manly, strong or impressive about him. TNNurse Nov 2020 #18
He's a modern day Regency Dandy Lars39 Nov 2020 #19
I relate to these observations, so visible and obvious Demonaut Nov 2020 #20
Lonesome Rhodes, scamming the safeinOhio Nov 2020 #22
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #23
Pick em up truck drivin' gun totin' ..... KentuckyWoman Nov 2020 #25
I don't want them back. I do want their kids and grand kids if they get proper educations. Tommymac Nov 2020 #32
Elizabeth I smeared white paste on her face. tavernier Nov 2020 #26
We're not sure what Liz I looked like later in life. Her paintings were pure propaganda. rickyhall Nov 2020 #33
Well said Joinfortmill Nov 2020 #28
This is so ... correct lettucebe Nov 2020 #30
Remember that when the movie "Urban Cowboy" came out those same pesticide addled brains rwsanders Nov 2020 #31
He's never even put up a Christmas tree or carried his own suitcase world wide wally Nov 2020 #34
Just goes to show the power of neuro-linguistic programming. Qutzupalotl Nov 2020 #37
Who ever said he was a manly man anyhow? Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2020 #38

Yonnie3

(17,419 posts)
1. he is afraid of blood too
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 08:55 PM
Nov 2020

I recall hearing about this 5 years ago.

https://www.gq.com/story/donald-trump-howard-stern-story

Donald Trump Shared a Hilarious Story About Not Wanting to Help a Dying Man
"He was right in front of me, and I turned away. I didn’t want to touch him."

...

Once upon a time, Trump explained matter-of-factly, he was hosting a charity ball at Mar-a-Lago at which several members of the Marine Corps were in attendance, along with a host of rich people "eager to get their picture in the Palm Beach Post," as he put it. Lo and behold, at some point during the evening, an 80-year-old man—"very wealthy," Trump adds, but also, "a lot of people didn't like him"—fell off the stage and hit his head. Trump thought the man had died. "And you know what I did?"

...

He’s bleeding all over the place, I felt terrible. You know, beautiful marble floor, didn’t look like it. It changed color. Became very red.

...


Xipe Totec

(43,887 posts)
6. Trump is as manly as a marshmallow strap-on dildo.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:02 PM
Nov 2020

Impressive looking, until you actually try to use it.

kimbutgar

(21,027 posts)
7. Your comment is what I have been actually saying
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:07 PM
Nov 2020

He has never worked a hard day in his life. Yet these fools thinks he is a guy like them. He dyes his hair, gets pedicures and has never worried about paying a bill, or missing a meal because he lived paycheck to paycheck.

I just don’t see his appeal, never have. And those cult members who adore him, he would never give them the time of day in real life and He stiffed workers for jobs they performed for him countless times. His supporters are friggin insane and so brainwashed they are mentally ill.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
29. They are stupid, but know he is not like them but they DO wanna be rich/powerful like him.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:45 PM
Nov 2020

They remind me of Gollum - grandiose dreams of being the Ring Holder and living in a paradise where all the rotten raw fish he wants is provided to him.

They project their pitiful perception of what real power would bring them but they have no capability to imagine the Real World.

Response to Atticus (Original post)

ginny skinny

(182 posts)
9. Things I bet he has never done...
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:11 PM
Nov 2020

Walked barefoot in grass.
Slept in a tent.
Paddled a canoe.
Played with a dog.
Hiked a trail.
Rode a bicycle.
Been in the wilderness where there is no light pollution and you can see ALL the stars.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
15. of course he hasn't
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:42 PM
Nov 2020

he is not human... all those things you mention make for a wonderous life for us living life well!

birdographer

(1,299 posts)
24. Or...
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:59 PM
Nov 2020

Pumped his own gas.
Been in a grocery store (he thinks you have to show ID to buy groceries).
Paid a bill.
Closed an umbrella.
Mailed anything at the PO.
Packed a bag for vacation.
Made coffee in a coffeemaker.
Operated a vacuum cleaner.
Planted a tree, shrub, or flower.
Washed a dish.
Changed bed linens.
Picnicked.
Pruned a hedge.
Been to a zoo.
Sent an email.
Walked on a beach.
I'm running out of room. This is America and this is what Americans do. Not every one, not every thing. But at least one. He is not an American, he is from another universe none of us has been to. Biden is one of us.

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
16. They also believe lack of empathy and fear is manly
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:54 PM
Nov 2020

Whereas the reality is that without fear, there is no bravery. And without empathy, there is no humanity.

Celerity

(43,039 posts)
39. Fuck John Wayne, that white supremacist, homophobic piece of dogshit
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:19 PM
Nov 2020
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.jacksonville.com/news/20170131/fact-check-did-john-wayne-express-racist-views-to-blacks-and-american-indians%3ftemplate=ampart

A meme stating that actor John Wayne believed in white supremacy has circulated on the Internet for several years, but has resurrected. The facts: But Wayne's quote is real; it originally appeared in a May 1971 interview with Playboy magazine in which Wayne was responding to a question about whether Angela Davis, a counter-culture activist, communist and professor, was discriminated against by those who wanted to revoke her teaching credentials:

Wayne responded: "With a lot of blacks, there's quite a bit of resentment along with their dissent, and possibly rightfully so. But we can't all of a sudden get down on our knees and turn everything over to the leadership of the blacks. I believe in white supremacy until the blacks are educated to a point of responsibility. I don't believe in giving authority and positions of leadership and judgment to irresponsible people."

Snip

The Playboy interview contained one other quote that is frequently shared in meme form, Snopes.com reports. The quote was in response to Playboy's question of whether Wayne felt any empathy for Native American for subordinate roles in Westerns:

"I don't feel we did wrong in taking this great country away from them, if that's what you're asking. Our so-called stealing of this country from them was just a matter of survival. There were great numbers of people who needed new land, and the Indians were selfishly trying to keep it for themselves."

Snip

NameAlreadyTaken

(973 posts)
40. The irony of his homophobia
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:44 PM
Nov 2020

is that I keep reading gossip - unproven, of course - that he was very keen on taking younger guys out on his yacht from Newport Beach with him for an afternoon.

BigmanPigman

(51,554 posts)
17. Marilyn Monroe was more masculine than that fat fuck.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:31 PM
Nov 2020

I fact, her pinky finger was more masculine than Fat Donny. Same goes for her loser brothers and dipshit hubby.

TNNurse

(6,924 posts)
18. There is nothing manly, strong or impressive about him.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:34 PM
Nov 2020

His younger pictures show a more attractive face, but that is long gone. And once you know the person with that face, well, he is just disgusting.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. Hear, hear!
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:58 PM
Nov 2020

And he's the whiniest little b**ch on the planet! Since when is whining CONSTANTLY manly? Or womanly, for that matter. He's a pathetic little toddler.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
25. Pick em up truck drivin' gun totin' .....
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:59 PM
Nov 2020

I married a pick em up truck drivin, (occasional) beer drinkin type that thank goodness knew how to shoot food. He certainly never scratched his privates in mixed company that I ever knew of, and the only hind end I know of that he'd grab was mine - or his own if it happened to itch. He even went through a thankfully short phase of needing a spit cup (disgusting). He came home smelling to high heavens every day of his work life.

We were poor people from eastern Kentucky that managed to get out and later made a choice to go back - before moving out again as we got older. The sorts in our bunch were pretty much required to have a Nascar driver they rooted for (as long as it wasn't Jeff Gordon) and you knew every team he liked, every trip were able to take, by looking at his T-shirts and ball caps. When I went back to college he proudly loaded up on EKU t-shirts and hats.

Demonizing the kind of people I come from goes a little close to home for my taste, and it is hard not to take that personal. And yes, I do have relatives who think nothing of cracking open a can of beer at a wedding.. but that is not the norm. I do have Trumpers in my family ... my brother in fact ... but again, that is not the norm.

Most of these are people who used to faithfully vote Democratic straight up and down the ballot. These are people that voted for Andy Beshear and Donald Trump both. If we ever want them back ... it would be best to understand why they wandered off.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
32. I don't want them back. I do want their kids and grand kids if they get proper educations.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:51 PM
Nov 2020

I was raised in the South but now I ABHOR the South in General.

The people I grew up with are Trumpers through and through - willfully ignorant and rolling in that knowledge like hogs in shit - they are PROUD to be fucking STUPID!

Fuck them. We don't need them. They are the junkyard of history.

tavernier

(12,363 posts)
26. Elizabeth I smeared white paste on her face.
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:08 PM
Nov 2020

Rump does the same with orange, lately brown.

I can’t think of another sane person who does this. Even actors on camera don’t open a can of Kiwi shoe polish and smear it on their face before doing a scene. I suppose Batman’s joker, but he wasn’t appearing in the State of the Union.

Don’t 1/3 of this nation have eyes and some curiosity as to why a person does this? Think about it. It’s not normal. A touch of powder perhaps to take away shine from lights, or even at most, some concealer for zits or under eye shadows. But not a full hiding-in-Willy-Wonka-chocolate-factory camouflage! That’s just plainly bonkers.

rwsanders

(2,594 posts)
31. Remember that when the movie "Urban Cowboy" came out those same pesticide addled brains
Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:45 PM
Nov 2020

told interviewers that they would be able to spot a "real" cowboy from miles away.
Now those same inbred, pesticide sniffing, momma's boys voted for phony cowboy Reagan, phony cowboy baby Bush, and now the complete wimp Trump.

Qutzupalotl

(14,278 posts)
37. Just goes to show the power of neuro-linguistic programming.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:06 PM
Nov 2020

Donald and Ivanka are big NLPers. I’m not very knowledgable about NLP, but I know it involves a lot of repetition to build trust. After all, nobody would lie again and again, would they?

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