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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Coward Emily Murphy Is Breaking Down Over Betraying Her Country To Stay Loyal To Trump
She absolutely feels like shes in a hard place. Shes afraid on multiple levels. Its a terrible situation, one friend and former colleague of Murphys told CNN. Emily is a consummate professional, a deeply moral person, but also a very scrupulous attorney who is in a very difficult position with an unclear law and precedence that is behind her stance.
Murphy is using the 2000 election as her standard for blocking the Biden transition, which is absurd because 2000 was decided by 537 votes in one state. Joe Biden beat Trump by several hundred thousand votes and flipped five states that Trump carried back into the Democratic column.
A real public servant wouldnt be struggling with the decision.
DO YOUR FUCKING JOB, EMILY, tRump won't be here to save your ass in 62 days.
https://www.politicususa.com/2020/11/18/emily-murphy-breakdown-trump.html
JI7
(89,240 posts)this situation. She is being asked to do what every other fucking administration has done .
She's not doing her job for political reasons.
There's no victimhood here. She's just a hack who's not doing the job for which she draws a check.
wnylib
(21,341 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)wnylib
(21,341 posts)and had to check on it, but yes, I do remember now, and they appear to be twigs on the same nut tree.
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)If you can not uphold your oath of office, resign!
ailsagirl
(22,885 posts)634-5789
(4,175 posts)SharonAnn
(13,771 posts)Trump didnt want old FBI building to become available to a potential hotel competitor. Purely to protect his business interests, lining his pockets.
She made a political decision to please Trump. In no way was it an appropriate decision based on FBI needs or the allocated budget.
ShazzieB
(16,279 posts)Afraid of Trump, that is. Also of his heavily armed, scantily brained followers. She knows one nasty tweet about her from him is all it would take to send them tracking her down like a dog. Which is, of course, horrific, but that's what she gets for agreeing to work for that orange howler 🐵.
Lasher
(27,537 posts)It is a consistent component of their genre.
MrsCoffee
(5,801 posts)She has shown us who she really is.
I hope she spends several years afraid behind bars.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)jaxexpat
(6,803 posts)All their pride, their reputation, their passion and their livelihoods. Trump has no more clue or finesse than Giuliani. Dumb criminals are the heroes of the 21st century for folks that in the 19th century would have been obsessed by the James Gang.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)She will!
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Apparently deeply moral enough to be linked with sex parties on the roof from what I read.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,652 posts)live love laugh
(13,079 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)He has no loyalty to anyone. They'll learn that painful lesson.
madaboutharry
(40,190 posts)She is a coward and frankly, she is stupid. She deserves whatever misery she is bringing upon herself.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)... she may actually be a deeply immoral person. I predict she will join a resistance group supporting Loser Trump, next year.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)gab13by13
(21,264 posts)All of the votes should have been counted, I mean the brother of one of the candidates stopping the vote count was OK?
God help us if we rely on what went on in 2000 as future precedence.
BComplex
(8,019 posts)precedent for any future case. What happened to THAT part of the ruling?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That part is lex non scripta, don't ya know?
mdbl
(4,973 posts)Sandra Day O'Connor gave up all self-respect on that one. She was the swing vote that allowed that mess to happen.
Siwsan
(26,250 posts)Just a theory, mind you, but I have NO doubt she's obeying a trump* demand.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,664 posts)with a system that allows one person in a position as hers to wield that much influence.
BComplex
(8,019 posts)There are some individuals in the USA who are more equal than others.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,664 posts)DBoon
(22,340 posts)-- The Clash
ahoysrcsm
(787 posts)that will investigate all the police shootings. That way we no longer have to rely on an Internal Affairs inside the police department to investigate their own shootings.
uponit7771
(90,302 posts)Karma13612
(4,542 posts)One, just ONE state votes for him and he can road block the American people into loss of health care, economic injustice, climate protections, LGBTQ rights, etc.
The founders never conceived of the level of immoral decay in government that we are seeing now.
backroadblast
(76 posts)i pray everyone she loves turns their back to her and she has an endless run of sleepless nights in her future, amen.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Only corrupt people like Trump, think about that.
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)Fox will hire her.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I dont watch that cable channel, but every female host and many contributors that gets shown here on DU and news feeds are thinish women and usually bleach blonde.
ShazzieB
(16,279 posts)I find them pretty scary, honestly.
Maeve
(42,271 posts)Short-term personal gain over long-term health of democracy in America? Really? Really, really??
Fullduplexxx
(7,845 posts)PJMcK
(21,998 posts)Emily is a Karen.
Does she want to speak with the manager?
NRaleighLiberal
(60,006 posts)I don't get it.
Chakaconcarne
(2,436 posts)niyad
(113,074 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,006 posts)he certainly is deserving of a good smack upside his orange head. For him to get along to his age screwing so many people unscathed is simply unbelievable.
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Republican elected officials fear the backlash from both Trump himself and from those voters who worship Trump should they utter the heretical -- and that is the correct term -- view that Trump lost. They do expect the Spanish Inquisition.
Hekate
(90,560 posts)A lot of them start out with good intentions, seriously. But you know the old saying about what the road to Hell is paved with.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,006 posts)Hekate
(90,560 posts)... (it made me mad) and you find a mind that is wicked smart and wicked funny.
The man has no illusions about humanity, and there are damn few among us that are incorruptible, and the ones that are can be smeared and fired.
JI7
(89,240 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Wtaf?
TeamPooka
(24,209 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Chief reason I did not attend law school.
Thankfully, there are many GREAT attorneys hard at work saving our country, too!
gademocrat7
(10,644 posts)She has willfully abandoned her duty to her country. Such a shameful disgrace. There is nothing professional about her.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)Sucking up to fascism does not a patriot make.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)She is texting friends looking for her next job in the Republican party according to reporting. She sees one thing, a chance to advance her career within the Repub party, plain and simple. She should have her picture pasted all over the world as the person who led to the deaths of more people by delaying the transition and delaying Biden's virus team from hitting the ground running on Jan 20th. She is directly responsible for the deaths and suffering of many of her fellow Americans. Emily Miller is a killer, plain and simple.
Harker
(13,980 posts)whoa, yeah.
area51
(11,896 posts)Harker
(13,980 posts)It popped into my mind despite not having heard it in many years.
It works just about perfectly as is.
NBachers
(17,081 posts)FakeNoose
(32,593 posts)... feeding on the fame and glory. She throws away her entire career for 2 days of headlines.
RVN VET71
(2,689 posts)If she's remembered at all it will be as just one of the many venereal crabs Trump has unleashed on the nation in his final, petulant and nihilistic days.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)The agency, which oversees government leases among other administrative tasks, is little known to the general public. Nor is Benisheks name among those that have become a staple of Trumpworld reporting.
Accordingly, the move attracted no notice as the nation, and the world, focused on the Nov. 3 presidential election, perhaps the most consequential in modern American history.
GSA put out a press release, which said that as the new general counsel of the GSA, as well as its top ethics official, Benishek would advise in the formulation and promulgation of GSA policies and regulations, oversee the agencys litigation, and provide overall direction.
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/white-house-attorney-dispatched-to-agency-blocking-biden-transition-173301811.html
In NO WAY am I letting Emily Murphy off the hook. She is a coward and should resign. But I definitely want to know more about this White House attorney.
KPN
(15,637 posts)how fucking brainwashed and rabid have at least 50 million Americans become -- the real American-Xs.
crickets
(25,952 posts)The doublespeak is on full display: one claim is that he is there to "provide overall direction" but another is that he "does not direct her as to what to do." When a GSA spokesperson announces that "Benishek would not be acting as a White House surrogate within the GSA" we can all assume that is exactly his role.
Murphy's screwed and she knows it. She could have done her job properly, but she doesn't have the integrity or the backbone for that. Looks like Benishek might be there to take the helm if Murphy wavers--but she won't. Her paycheck is more important to her than her country.
c-rational
(2,589 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)AllyCat
(16,151 posts)She only has to do her job. Sign off on the apparent winner of the election.
She is a coward and is acting in a manner not becoming of her position.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)"in a very difficult position with an unclear law and precedence that is behind her stance."
Which means, she knows she's going rogue.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)The technical language in the law is that she must begin the transition process once there is an "apparent winner."
There is nothing in the wording about waiting for Trump to concede, or waiting for vote certification.
benfranklin1776
(6,443 posts)Her interpretation is manifestly unreasonable and indefensible. There is no precedent supporting her interpretation. Time for as writ of mandamus to compel her to perform her ministerial duty.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)JT45242
(2,248 posts)1. She took a political hack job from Trump and did not work up through the civil service chain
2. She could easily go to all 50 states websites (secretary of state) and verify the counts for herself. (I have to do a similar thing looking for updates to state education standards for my job quarterly...it takes a little time, but you document with web address in a spreadsheet and bulletproof)
3. She is whining because for probably the first time in white priviliged life she might have to face some consequences for her poor decision making skills.
4. The BIG ONE -- by putting her loyalty to Trumo over the loyalty to her oath of office and the 330 million people who count on her to do her job correctly she has not only endangered those 330 million but also counless millions around the world.
There is nothing but hypocrisy in her heart if she is claiming to be a good lawyer.... do your job , you whiny, political hack. Then slink away and hopefuly get disbarred so that you can say "would you like fires with that" for the rest of your pathetic life.
ailsagirl
(22,885 posts)c-rational
(2,589 posts)dalton99a
(81,404 posts)Fuck them
Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)Your decision, and spare me your feelings. If you are truly a 'deeply moral person' then you should be able to see this for what it is and have walked away or signed off on this and walked away. 'Consummate professional'? Were that true you would not be a part of this administration at all.
May this sad episode be forever shackled on to both your personal and professional life.
PA Democrat
(13,225 posts)in the service of a wannabe despot trying to invalidate a fair election?
She disgusts me.
usaf-vet
(6,163 posts)You TOOK the oath of office, saying in part, "to support and defend the CONSTITUTION against all enemies foreign and domestic."
THE CONSTITUTION EMILY, not any individual!
THE CONSTITUTION EMILY, not any individual!
THE CONSTITUTION EMILY, not any individual!
General Milly's in a recent speech makes it clear THE CONSTITUTION EMILY, not any individual!
Forget the Orange TURD! and the 2000 election. You are looking for an excuse. THE CONSTITUTION EMILY, not any individual!
yardwork
(61,539 posts)The reason I ask is that most of them voted for Trump despite their "deeply moral" beliefs.
Jesus has a word for people like this: hypocrites.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,960 posts)dalton99a
(81,404 posts)Iggo
(47,534 posts)So, no. Thats bullshit.
TinCup
(54 posts)She is just one more disciple of Drumpf! Now that he is on his way out the door she is panicking because she has no way out. Once some big Republican donor gives her a job she will finally do her job at the GSA.
oldsoftie
(12,492 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,103 posts)cab67
(2,990 posts)What's unclear about it?
BigOleDummy
(2,262 posts)I have a problem with ANY republican who wears the "moral" mantle .... I've seen nothing "moral" from that party in a long long time.
NoRoadUntravelled
(2,626 posts)turned on others who were no longer useful to him. She's afraid of doing jail time and has no reason to trust that he will pardon her.
If only all of his supporters could see him through that lens.
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)the US government, and she should be prosecuted for it.
Hekate
(90,560 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,007 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,697 posts)Texin
(2,590 posts)Does she think he's going to be the one to give her an "attagirl, Emily" professional recommendation to ease her into a new job? Frankly, I'm quite certain tRump doesn't know her from a hole in the ground, and if he has become aware of her in the last couple of weeks, it'll only be because he happened to see her bloated body on Fux Spews. And, does she not know deep down in her bones that the only reason he noticed her is because she is the antithesis of the women he likes?
AllaN01Bear
(17,994 posts)world wide wally
(21,739 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)Were she so competent, she would have reasonably predicted the situation in which she put herself, and she would have AVOIDED the ethical and professional dilemma that places her in the middle of a huge electoral fiasco.
Competency and professionalism flies out the window when she gets pressured and intimidated by Trump. The truism exists: Everything Trump Touched Dies. Murphy got touched by President Pennywise. Now she exposed herself to disbarment, ethical violations, civil lawsuits, and criminal prosecution. That's really smart, Emily. When you listen to your Golden god, you lose everything. Goodnight, Emily.
Blue Owl
(50,269 posts)Rolling around in tRumps brimming, shit-filled cesspool
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...to feel important. To feel like she has a purpose.
And the media --CNN especially-- is working overtime to help her fill out her GOP* Victim Bingo Card.
The thing is: She is NOT being asked to pick the winner. She is only asked to "ascertain" the likely winner so that the funds and facilities can be released so that Team Biden can begin their transition.
Also telling, is that she refuses to answer the question "Have you been in contact with anyone at the White House to discuss this Ascertainment?" GSAEmily is an attorney and knows full well the consequences of lying. She knows THE ENTIRE COUNTRY is watching her actions. She knows exactly what she is doing, and as the wonderful Laurence O'Donnell said last night in no uncertain terms "Emily Murphy is lying."
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,325 posts)Her concern is heartwarming, while she inserts the knife and twists.
I'm trying to think, who does this remind me of?
nakocal
(545 posts)or a consummate professional. She is a liar and a partisan hack.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)Moral my ass.
She is a criminal just like the rest of the Republican's in the country..
LOCK HER UP!
patphil
(6,150 posts)The law isn't unclear, and the precedent she's using is irrelevant to this election.
She is simply doing the will of her master.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)do your fucking job toadie
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)I just called that Emily W Murphy lady who won't sign the transition paperwork at noon in DC. Whoever answered the phone was very nice and very cool. When I told her who I really wanted to speak with I thought I'd hear "clunk" as my phone was hung up but that didn't happen. The person said Emily is getting tons of messages (implied they were nastygrams) but that Emily definately would be getting mine too. I even left my phone number in case Elily would like to discuss being a traitor and a tRump kiss ass. My message was that "she is unAmerican and she isn't performing her job as required by the govt and should therefore step down of she does not fulfill her duties in a timey manner".
I wanted to say terrible things laced with lots of profanity but chose to take the high road since the person who answered the phone was so cool and told me Emily is getting the many messages like mine and she would love nothing more than delivering another batch to her. I have the feeling that Emily Murphy isn't having a good time with her tRump pals these days.
VA_Jill
(9,941 posts)Cry me a river, b*tch. Just do your fvcking job and stop being such a drama queen. This drama isn't even worthy of a 13 year old.
helpisontheway
(5,005 posts)ailsagirl
(22,885 posts)"A real public servant wouldnt be struggling with the decision." Damn right!!!!
She feels as if she's in a hard place...
DO YOUR DAMN JOB!!!!
patricia92243
(12,592 posts)forever.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Goodheart
(5,308 posts)MFM008
(19,803 posts)of some lawsuits thrown in her direction.
marble falls
(57,013 posts)UTUSN
(70,648 posts)bdamomma
(63,799 posts)Emily are you being threatened with death threats from "the don".
Sign the damn papers!!!!
ThoughtCriminal
(14,046 posts)Because... Argle Bargle!
jimlup
(7,968 posts)what morality actually is.
dchill
(38,444 posts)...a consummate professional.