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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:24 AM Nov 2020

WaPo - Rudy Giuliani is a mess

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/18/rudy-giuliani-is-mess/

In court, Giuliani alleged “widespread nationwide voter fraud of which this is a part.” And then he admitted, that, well, there wasn’t fraud in the legal sense, just in the hysterical, made-up Trumpian sense. Throughout the afternoon, Giuliani misspoke, calling Joe Biden “Bush.” He was denigrated by defense counsel. He expressed dismay that Republican counties didn’t let voters fix mail-in ballots but turned his legal wrath on Democratic counties that did.

Giuliani did not sound like an attorney delivering a logical, if biased, argument. He was a pitchman trying to make his case with intonations full of incredulity and outrage. The hearing was not as animated as it could have been because while there was audio from the courtroom, there was no video.

In the flesh, Giuliani has always been a man of dramatic gestures and expressions. Whether on television or, more recently, at Four Seasons Total Landscaping complaining about bad ballots, his eyes widen and narrow to punctuate a sentence. He wears a Yankees World Series ring even though he did not earn it. The diamonds sparkle next to a pinkie ring. A pinkie ring. The mere fact of it is an abomination. Whether accusing voters of bad behavior or arguing that networks don’t call elections, “courts do,” his lips peel back in a toothy sneer.

No, Giuliani was never America’s mayor — a fact that if recognized makes it much easier to contend with the ease with which he has become one of Trump’s boys.


really sad to see someone self-destruct like this and keep going at it.
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WaPo - Rudy Giuliani is a mess (Original Post) Roland99 Nov 2020 OP
Rudy is headed to jail. pwb Nov 2020 #1
Until regular Fox viewers are appointed as judges, Rudy will struggle in court. chriscan64 Nov 2020 #2
He needs to be charged with espionage. AZ8theist Nov 2020 #3
Tired of this charade . .. Iliyah Nov 2020 #4
Who's the author? lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #5
of the WaPo article? Roland99 Nov 2020 #6
Yes, thanks! lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #7
"...there wasn't fraud in the legal sense..." Mike 03 Nov 2020 #8
Pathetic. 2naSalit Nov 2020 #9

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
2. Until regular Fox viewers are appointed as judges, Rudy will struggle in court.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:37 AM
Nov 2020

"Just saying" votes could have come from Mickey Mouse or outer space does not fly in a court of law. Three things will happen: these cases will fail, Biden will be the president, and regular Fox guy will believe there was fraud because Trump and Rudy said so.

AZ8theist

(5,453 posts)
3. He needs to be charged with espionage.
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:41 AM
Nov 2020

He is damaging our democracy and our nation far worse than any traitors before him, except one.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Tired of this charade . ..
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:42 AM
Nov 2020

which includes the republican congress , republican administration, shithole, wacko evangelists who desecrate Jesus' teachings, and overall psycho shithole's cult.

The blanket racist hatred, and the targeting of POC counties spouting voter fraud is leaving a bitter taste in my mouth. This needs to stop, but alas the not caring asshole and his cronies truly do hate the USA.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
8. "...there wasn't fraud in the legal sense..."
Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:56 AM
Nov 2020

I can't read this article without thinking of F. Lee Bailey during the O.J. Trial, and those persistent rumors that he smuggled hard liquor into the courtroom in his coffee thermos. Marcia Clark, apparently, noticed something was off.

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