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kentuck

(111,078 posts)
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:22 PM Nov 2020

Why cannot the Congress do anything about this scofflaw that is wrecking our Constitution...?

...and ignoring our laws?

Yeah, they tried impeachment. But that was then. This is now.

In my opinion, it is not acceptable to do nothing under these circumstances.

The Congress and the Senate both are given the authority to deal with reckless executives.

They can censure. They can impeach. They can convict. They can publicly criticize with a stern warning to straighten his shit up.

They have the authority. But they don't seem to have the will. They are so covetous of their positions of power that they are willing to overlook the will of the people and our Constitution and laws.

The Congress should have already acted.

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Why cannot the Congress do anything about this scofflaw that is wrecking our Constitution...? (Original Post) kentuck Nov 2020 OP
They. Don't. Want. To. regnaD kciN Nov 2020 #1
I don't know if it's because they don't want to, or that they're too afraid of him Poiuyt Nov 2020 #5
"Cannot" is not the correct word. "Will not" is. jmowreader Nov 2020 #2
Maybe a Democratic senator should go to the senate floor with bluestarone Nov 2020 #3
you mean how states are conducting... stillcool Nov 2020 #4
But it doesn't have to be a crime... kentuck Nov 2020 #6
I don't know if Lieu thinks the House can pass this Inherent Contempt can do this now BigmanPigman Nov 2020 #7
What is the point of impeaching without conviction sure way to lose GA. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #8
Why is that a sure way to lose GA? kentuck Nov 2020 #12
I don't think it will get moderate Democrats out to vote in Georgia and it may inflame Trumpers. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #18
Trump's a lame duck kurtcagle Nov 2020 #9
You mean Congressional Republicans, of course. Nt mcar Nov 2020 #10
It is not time to distract from what Trump Progressive dog Nov 2020 #11
You may be right? kentuck Nov 2020 #13
Nope. Those Senate seats will be hard to win but we have to try. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #19
The trouble is he has huge support for what he is doing and he is dividing America. Doodley Nov 2020 #15
It will end, but we shouldn't focus Progressive dog Nov 2020 #17
I 100% agree. They need to act decisively. In addition they need a campaign with a slogan like: Doodley Nov 2020 #14
Congress is the whole of 2 Chambers. House & Senate. Caliman73 Nov 2020 #16

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
1. They. Don't. Want. To.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:24 PM
Nov 2020

At least the Republicans who control the Senate don't. They're quite happy with their leader finding a way to remain in power despite the will of the electorate (once again).

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
5. I don't know if it's because they don't want to, or that they're too afraid of him
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:36 PM
Nov 2020

I think it's more the latter. They have absolutely no political courage and are afraid of getting a mean tweet from donny.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
2. "Cannot" is not the correct word. "Will not" is.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:25 PM
Nov 2020

Yes, they could impeach the son-of-a-bitch for the worst crimes he's committed (so that he couldn't be pardoned for committing them), but the fucking Republicans are having too much fun watching him trash the nation.

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
3. Maybe a Democratic senator should go to the senate floor with
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:26 PM
Nov 2020

A LIST of laws broken by RUMP, starting with the day after the House impeached him!!! FOR PUBLIC RECORD!!!

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
4. you mean how states are conducting...
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:32 PM
Nov 2020

their elections...those state legislatures? Is trying to though out my vote a crime if it isn't actually thrown out? What is the role of Congress in my state government?

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
7. I don't know if Lieu thinks the House can pass this Inherent Contempt can do this now
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:45 PM
Nov 2020

or later.

Ted Lieu (@tedlieu) Tweeted:
I’m going to give my personal view:

CONGRESSIONAL SUBPOENAS ARE MEANINGLESS BECAUSE WE CANNOT ENFORCE THEM.

The GSA will simply ignore the subpoena and litigate, which takes years to resolve.

We can fix this by passing House Rules change to authorize Inherent Contempt power.


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kentuck

(111,078 posts)
12. Why is that a sure way to lose GA?
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 08:27 PM
Nov 2020

Will that get all the Trumpsters out to vote? Or all the Democrats out to vote. Democrats did pretty good in GA in the general.

If nothing else, it might occupy his time before all hell blows up? He is a sick man.

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
18. I don't think it will get moderate Democrats out to vote in Georgia and it may inflame Trumpers.
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 05:38 PM
Nov 2020

It would be worth it if Trump would have to leave. But he won't leave thanks to the Senate. Sometimes there is nothing that can be done. We need to focus on certifying the election in the swing states Biden won and Democrats should speak out and they do. We have no influence over the GOP Senate who will not call Trump to account.

kurtcagle

(1,602 posts)
9. Trump's a lame duck
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:59 PM
Nov 2020

He's discovering the hard way what that actually means. He is losing power and credibility by the hour, and increasingly he's being ignored. Yes his current antics are infuriating, but I think Pelosi and company have the right idea: just ignore the bastard. The JCS are not going to back him. Bill Barr has lately all but disappeared, which is the only reason that Guilliani is acting as Trump's sock puppet. The swing states are certifying their results today, and the courts are getting to the stage where the judges aren't even opening up the lawsuits to read them.

In sixty days, Joe Biden will become President of the United States. At that point, everyone who has been obstructing will be given pink slips, followed shortly thereafter by injunctions and subpoenas.

Yes, Trump is attempting to launch a coup. The problem is that it is way too late. He has pissed off potential allies, has lost the respect of the military, and even his great Million Man moment fizzled as people who were already worried about their own arrest records wisely decided that Trump was not worth it. Now his spending the GOP's money like water in an attempt to not be evicted, and the Republicans who are very worried about losing the Senate are now faced with some cold hard realities - support Trump and watch as Georgia goes up in flames, or abandon Trump to keep a thin sliver of control.

Trump's trying to do his damnedest to throw a temper tantrum, but I'd be willing to bet that the people who actually implement the orders of the executive branch right now are just watching him flail, and taking off on Winter vacation.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
11. It is not time to distract from what Trump
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 08:27 PM
Nov 2020

is doing. Let him destroy the GOP, his only skill is destruction.

Doodley

(9,078 posts)
15. The trouble is he has huge support for what he is doing and he is dividing America.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 08:59 PM
Nov 2020

How can Joe Biden be an effective president is nearly half of all Americans believe he stole the election? It needs to be stopped.

Progressive dog

(6,900 posts)
17. It will end, but we shouldn't focus
Sat Nov 21, 2020, 05:32 PM
Nov 2020

on what he is doing. It is unfortunate that many Trumpers are easily conned, they are not going to accept that he lost fairly no matter what the normal people say or do.
After Biden is sworn in, the attention on Trump will fade away. He and his idiot enablers will be relegated to having press conferences on loading docks next to porn shops.

Doodley

(9,078 posts)
14. I 100% agree. They need to act decisively. In addition they need a campaign with a slogan like:
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 08:57 PM
Nov 2020

Stop the bad loser in the White House from wrecking America.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
16. Congress is the whole of 2 Chambers. House & Senate.
Fri Nov 20, 2020, 09:02 PM
Nov 2020

The House impeached Trump in February. The Senate failed to convict, which is needed for removal.

The Congress as a body has checks and balances. Each chamber has specific things they can do, however, removing the Executive is something that requires BOTH Chambers to act in support of each other.

What do you think the House can do alone? What can the Senate do alone, to reign in the power of the executive.

Do you know what a Censure is? It is a verbal chastisement, maybe written. Know what effect it has on a President? Ask Bill Clinton, he was censured.

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