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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsStates, like Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, need to stop electing Repuke state legislators.
We could avoid all this cheating and lying so easily then.
Greybnk48
(10,167 posts)Iggo
(47,549 posts)Also, they won't.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)exboyfil
(17,862 posts)It just so happens to also have a disparate impact on minority voters, but ok if done for political purposes.
That was 5-4 with Ginsberg. Guess what it will be with Barrett.
NCDem47
(2,248 posts)Add gerrymandering, and voila!
enki23
(7,787 posts)Time to accept these truths:
1) there are an enormous number of outright fucking fascists in the USA who do not give a fuck about democracy except when it directly benefits them. We call them "Republicans" most of the time.
2) Many of those people are in charge of drawing congressional districts giving them an enormous advantage
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)Most people in WI vote Democratically, but the Republicans retain the power.
Greybnk48
(10,167 posts)Paul Ryan won elections he should never have, and Robin Vos does too, just to name two. We will never escape minority rule in Wisconsin without legit district maps--one's that don't look like seahorses.
LeftInTX
(25,245 posts)33taw
(2,439 posts)in 2022 with Evers. Well see.
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Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Ya know, Gerrymandering?
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Those areas are going to have Republican state legislators. Who apparently get bribed by the president in the hotel lobby he owns after a meeting that supposedly wasn't about election interference.
Demsrule86
(68,543 posts)have representatives. This is why they control the legislatures and why we need a 50 state strategy to elect our folk state wide as well as national elections.
Freddie
(9,259 posts)Im in purple-blue Bucks County and we cant get rid of our Repug state rep no matter what. He does a lot of favors for constituents and comes across as the reasonable moderate guy who only cares about local issues. Then he goes back to Harrisburg and votes in lockstep with the rest of the RWNJs and nobody seems to care.
maxrandb
(15,320 posts)Dems hold all "state-wide" offices in those states.
Koch and other billionaires worked for decades to surgically gerrymander every place where the rules allowed them to.
They so ratfucked the states, Retrumplicans could get 48% of a states total vote and still get 65-70% of the states representation.
Thank God Dems came out and gave us Democratic Governors and Secretaries of State in WI, MI and PA or we'd be seriously ducked.
gulliver
(13,180 posts)Now that we're starting to see how effective WFH is, it should be more and more possible for Dems to move out to the sticks. I personally would love to. As long as we're concentrated into big cities and metro areas, we're easy targets for gerrymandering.
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)into state election manipulation for decades with anti-union rhetoric, campaigns against small-d democratic ballot proposals (eg redistricting, right to work), and campaign support for the worst of the opportunistic RW power hungry fuckheads running for state legislatures.
Point being, there's nothing easy about this. Before election day happens, years of propaganda, infiltration, think tanks, foundations, and billionaires mean in a lot of states there are no real choices, and there is no real sense of truth.
I've watched the anti-union shit help destroy Michigan my whole life. I've also seen thousands of union workers organize and protest at in Lansing, Detroit, and elsewhere. But it's no match for the literal billions of dollars assholes like the Kochs have spent on destroying any chance of Dem majorities in our states. You'll notice Trump lost ALL of those states this month. We are doing the best we can.
Sorry if I sound feisty, but the "so easily" part of your comment hit me funny given how hard people here are working do exactly what you're suggesting vs what we're up against.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)and to a lesser extent state senate districts. It it extremely hard to pick up seats although Dems did net 11 in 2018 although they lost a few back this go-round.
It will be different in 2022 with a Dem governor and Rs not having the votes to override a veto of whatever map they produce.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,841 posts)state representatives or senators are. That's the real problem.