I'm asking for the gazzilionth time

[malaise]

Why the fuck is the media discussing polls about whether people believe Biden won or not - all the fucking facts show he won - who gives a rat's ass what they think.
M$Greedia is a big part of the division in the US.

[mahina]

1. Imagine how much money they made on political ads

Just this cycle. No wonder publicly financed campaigns are such a heavy lift. So far!

They also have a muscle to move public opinion and should use it because this nonsense about questioning legitimacy of the vote in black communities is some bullshit with a B

[malaise]

3. It's unbearable

Just turned them off - back to tennis

[mahina]

7. Sending you a PM

[dhill926]

12. assuming your watching ATP finals...

some damn good tennis today. I would think a much better use of your time. I've gotten to where I can only watch the MSNBC nighttime lineup....

[malaise]

14. Indeed

Rafa should have finished it in two but on we go - excellent tournament so far

[onenote]

2. Because what people think matters

You obviously believe people are interested in what you think. So why are you surprised that people would be interested in what other people think.

[unblock]

4. It's a helpful measure of the effectiveness of their propaganda.

[mucifer]

5. I keep hearing the media saying trumps accusations are unfounded we must

be listening to different new sources.

I hear trump's accusations are unfounded and Biden is President Elect on network tv, AP news, PBS.

I feel the msm is FINALLY fighting back.

[malaise]

8. They say that and then they cite these ridiculous polls

There is no need to poll people on lies.

[mucifer]

9. But, it's sooo much better that they say outright trump is LYING They didn't do that before.

[malaise]

10. True but they still have a long way to go

[BComplex]

6. I totally agree! If they were doing their job, everyone would know for a fact that Biden won!

I'm so sick of the media in this country!!!!

[Shermann]

11. I think the MSM is wrestling with an enigma

Does the Republican core of 73 million stay under Trump's spell in 2021 and form a well-organized resistance to the Biden administration?

Or does the core turn their back on their failed Presidential candidate ala Romney and McCain?

[malaise]

13. If they spent more time analyzing and addressing the genuine grievances of

the rural and urban poor, things might improve, but the media are owned by the same billionaires who have impoverished Americans of all races.

[Shermann]

17. Maybe, but things are going to come to a head in the next 60 days

It could get pretty dramatic, and the MSM are trying to stay in front of it.

Alternatively, he could just go out with a whimper. Hard to see, the future is.

[Lock him up.]

35. They may turn their back on the dRumpf mob once him and his corrupt family will be...

serving time in State jails for ... money laundering? Tax frauds? Bank frauds?

Mug shots have a tendency to break the cults in myriad pieces of junk.

[Dagstead Bumwood]

15. It's what they do no: ask for the people's opinion on something they themselves should be declaring.

Aziz Ansari had a bit about this very thing a few years back at the Correspondents dinner, wondering why they kept having these inane instant surveys.

Is Donald Trump a crook? I don't know, CNN, why don't you tell me?!

[plimsoll]

16. Infuriating but useful information.

It tells us just how screwed up things will be. It should also be a motivator to GOTV in Georgia, and frankly warn us that 2022 is going to be revenge of the reality impaired if we don't stay vigilant.

Think of it as the MSM saying X percentage of the population believe in Leprechauns and that Donald Trumps farts smell like roses.

[KT2000]

18. intersection of competing interests

Media is there to make money and they way they make money is to keep the temperature up so people will keep tuning in. It also keeps the "journalists" from dying of boredom. I myself tune in to see what is going on.

The competition is at present a fragile democracy that is giving way to the tantrums of a tyrant because tantrums make sensational news and that is the focus of the news.

After he is gone, the media will continue to repeat his tweets and follow him around to get his view of things. They will follow McConnell so he can further undermine our democracy.

The goal of the republican party is to make the US a one party state. They have worked on this for decades through their think tanks, brotherhood houses, big money donors, and their own media. tRump is their useful idiot. This is not a coup by trump but the old guard and corporate state. Most media serves corporate interests.

[uponit7771]

19. K&R, especially when they highlight their consummately wrong and expensive polling

[Hortensis]

20. Agree, but cable news is 24/7/365. What is each new show coming

on each hour x 24 supposed to fill its hour with except the networks' agreed story of the day?

All I can suggest is watch the evening news to see what others are seeing (Norah O'Donnell currently for us), pick one favorite cable program (picking recorded segments of 2 or 3 late-night show plus Morning Joe for us), and otherwise turn off the boob tube and read a good newspaper. Not ignoring the dozens of tabs taking us to all the other worlds reported on to focus on U.S. politics. Suggestions easy to give and easy to forget to follow, but I stand by them anyway, albeit somewhat hypocritically.

Or comfort ourselves that only a small percentage of Americans know cable networks do this because the rest don't watch.

[malaise]

21. There is so much more they can focus on

but that would require serious research and all they want is a profit making reality show

[Hortensis]

26. Sure, agree, and they could, but they're political entertainment, not

news or education.

And WE're the reason they stick to this profitable formula -- WE're the small percentage they're in business to gather up for their advertisers, and it's just going to have to be up to anyone who wants more to say no and get it elsewhere.

How many MSNBC programs alone? 20 or more each day? Just how many repetitions do WE choose to subject ourselves to?

Are we sure this problem is something we should even be aware of? And, yes, I am too -- up to my eyebrows.

[Dem4Life1102]

22. It's like polling whether people believe

if the earth is round or flat.

[malaise]

23. Correct and then telling me that I should consider the feelings of

the flat earthers

[stillcool]

24. it's hot air to fill up the time slot..

it's not like there's any news to report. Kind of surprising...all those states, and they're stuck on Republicans and their feelings. Not exactly 'fake news', just news that's been washed well. I wonder how many news items networks average in a day.

[cwydro]

25. Yup.

It’s maddening.

[warmfeet]

27. Much to fix.

We will do our best. I do not care what they think, others do unfortunately.

[Hulk]

28. I agree. I don't want to hear "what people think, or feel, or believe".

I want the facts. Then, go on to other subjects. These assholes are giving weight to his nonsense tantrum and the dumbest fooks in the country. I DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS WHAT THEY THINK.....do your g'damned job!!...and report the news!

[Grokenstein]

29. Media profits from the circus.

Drama gets clicks! They know a return to boring ol' sanity will be bad for business.

[58Sunliner]

30. What we should be discussing is how pandering to a segment of voters who think sedition is fine-

is damaging to our democracy.

[malaise]

31. Excellent point n/t

[BobTheSubgenius]

32. Yes, it really is a big part of the divide.

Harmony doesn't sell. Confrontation and friction sell.

[Chemisse]

33. I think it's important that we know what we are up against.

As long as the media doesn't suggest they have a chance or encourage them in any other way, it's better that we know than we don't know.

[mtnsnake]

34. What they are doing is not only annoying but it's counterproductive

The media will do anything it can to keep Trump at the forefront including silly polls showing how fucking dumb so many people are in this country.

[FakeNoose]

36. It's because they're not real polls

They are bullshit fake polls made by fake rightwing pundits who are trolling us.

I haven't participated in one survey or poll since the election because they're nothing - not even worth the paper they aren't printed on. I wish there were somebody in charge of the internet so we could report these people/bots and get them suspended.

[Skittles]

37. I am sick of hearing what Trump voters think too

we outnumbered them the first time and we outnumber them this time

[Beringia]

38. More consumers is their motto

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[Martin Eden]

39. Because a gazillion idiots believe the lies

Wouldn't be news if an insignificant number of voters believe the election was stolen, but a gazillion voters is evidence of mass psychosis.

Like it or not, that's newsworthy. It represents a real threat because some of those idiots are heavily armed and organized.