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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 10:06 AM Nov 2020

George Takei et al: I want to live in a country where Colin Kaepernick is seen as a hero and Kyle Ri


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George Takei
@GeorgeTakei
I want to live in a country where Colin Kaepernick is seen as a hero and Kyle Rittenhouse is seen as a terrorist.

Morgan J. Freeman
@mjfree
I want to live in a country where Colin Kaepernick is seen as a hero and Kyle Rittenhouse is seen as a terrorist.
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George Takei et al: I want to live in a country where Colin Kaepernick is seen as a hero and Kyle Ri (Original Post) soothsayer Nov 2020 OP
K&R Solly Mack Nov 2020 #1
That's what 80 Million People Cha Nov 2020 #2
THIS! Zoonart Nov 2020 #3
Yes! joshcryer Nov 2020 #8
Yes. Exactly. nt NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #10
Indeed! nt Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #4
Kaepernick couldn't bring himself to vote for Hillary. Dr. Strange Nov 2020 #5
He was not practical enough, not political enough, to vote for her RVN VET71 Nov 2020 #17
Okay, that's enough. Iggo Nov 2020 #19
More neighborly help and less bullying ad121rome Nov 2020 #6
Well said George Takei! Evolve Dammit Nov 2020 #7
Yes, I want to live in that country also. patphil Nov 2020 #9
Rittenhouse is a piece of shit NEOBuckeye Nov 2020 #11
K&R Sherman A1 Nov 2020 #12
Absolutely!!!! make it 80 million +2 usaf-vet Nov 2020 #13
It is true in other, sane, countries. warmfeet Nov 2020 #14
Same. Just add DT to the terrorist list. ananda Nov 2020 #15
The "case" against Kaepernick being a hero? I understand the logic. BobTheSubgenius Nov 2020 #16
Rittenhouse will play to the jury, just watch. RVN VET71 Nov 2020 #18
And where the people put MyPillow out of business Blue Owl Nov 2020 #20
I do not understand the debate where Rittenhouse illegally owned & carried a military assault weapon WyattKansas Nov 2020 #21

Dr. Strange

(25,919 posts)
5. Kaepernick couldn't bring himself to vote for Hillary.
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 10:31 AM
Nov 2020

He's a fucking moron, not some hero. A hero would have have voted against Trump.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
17. He was not practical enough, not political enough, to vote for her
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 12:48 PM
Nov 2020

She was a candidate he didn't like, who didn't appeal to him as trustworthy. He was wrong, I agree, to allow his personal feelings about her keep him from voting against a monster like Trump. But I wouldn't call him a moron. Just a person too caught up in his own struggle to see through the fog.

And I believe his stance against police murders of black people was a brave one. It cost him his (admittedly diminishing) career in the NFL plus the animosity of millions of true morons, the Trump supporting, America-Firster racist neo-nazis who eagerly voted for Trump not once but twice.

But he publicly sacrificed his career to make a statement for racial justice. Unfortunately for him, he was looking for a leader like Jesus, pure in spirit and wise in Heaven's ways, to lead America down the righteous path. He saw in Hillary Clinton a devious politician whose agenda, whose real agenda, didn't include racism but neither did it include revolutionary efforts to eradicate it. Personally, I believe Mrs. Clinton would have been a frustratingly irritating yet excellent Chief Executive -- and I think the same of President Biden. Kaepernick wanted/insisted on more.

I don't blame him.

patphil

(6,162 posts)
9. Yes, I want to live in that country also.
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:28 AM
Nov 2020

Wait, are we talking about the United States, or Canada?

Just kidding, this is what the USA should be; the home of truth and justice; a place of empathy and compassion.

NEOBuckeye

(2,781 posts)
11. Rittenhouse is a piece of shit
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 11:42 AM
Nov 2020

Lots of other pieces of right wing shit want to clump together to him to make one big shit.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
16. The "case" against Kaepernick being a hero? I understand the logic.
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 12:08 PM
Nov 2020

I vehemently disagree, but I get it. Murder Kid? A villain through and through.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
18. Rittenhouse will play to the jury, just watch.
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 12:57 PM
Nov 2020

He'll appear as a poor, young innocent who went to Kenosha with the highest of patriotic ideals. He actually -- and I firmly believe this -- went to Kenosha to murder people.

But juries can be swayed by apparent "youthful innocence" -- as they were by Lee Boyd Malvo, the demented and homicidal "Beltway Sniper" who murdered people at random because it, apparently, made him feel good. Malvo was touted in the press and by his defense attorneys as a poor young man led astray by his partner -- an older man who was executed for his participation in the murder spree. A prosecuting attorney who witnessed but did not try the case said young Malvo, in the jury's presence, always donned the demeanor of a poor little lost boy, looking at the jury with sad and bewildered eyes, keeping his head down, occasionally looking on the verge of tears. But, said this same prosecutor, when the jury was out of the room, Malvo was a different person, glad-handing his defense attorneys, laughing and joking like a second rate actor who'd just stepped out of role.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
21. I do not understand the debate where Rittenhouse illegally owned & carried a military assault weapon
Mon Nov 23, 2020, 04:44 PM
Nov 2020

Illegally to another State's city and openly carried it with a fully loaded magazine on it's streets with the intent to target another human being, is even a question in the United States of America.

And any alleged 'professional' (politician, attorney, reporter, etc.) who dares to question that should lose all of their credibility, their professional position, and professional license for doing so, because it is reprehensible professional conduct beyond any legitimate excuse. This is fucking insanity at will.

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