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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNo, Nicolle Wallace; Gore's concession did NOT "convey legitimacy"
on Ws presidency. Because of the disastrously bad 5-4 USSC decision, he will always be an illegitimate president.
Please find a better reason to criticize Trumps refusal to concede.
Skittles
(153,111 posts)did she really say that?
spooky3
(34,403 posts)shed get some pushback on Twitter.
Ginsburgs dissent speaks for many of us (non-lawyers):
https://lithub.com/when-ruth-bader-ginsburg-dissented-in-bush-v-gore/
Skittles
(153,111 posts)the repuke SC handed it over to their favored guy, with disastrous results
people still die every day because of that warmongerng piece of shit
spooky3
(34,403 posts)LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)Shes really a Republican
bullimiami
(13,076 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,006 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)spooky3
(34,403 posts)melman
(7,681 posts)The whole point of the Never Trumper scam is to whitewash pre-Trump Republican crimes.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"As always..."
melman
(7,681 posts)Take your time.
Sewa
(1,250 posts)that I wont watch her.
Shes always trying to rehabilitate the Cheney-Bush regime.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)He accepted, publicly anyway, that Bush won. On that alone, it conveyed legitimacy, even if Gore didn't believe it at the time.
Just moments ago, I spoke with George W. Bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd president of the United States. And I promised him that I wouldn't call him back this time. I offered to meet with him as soon as possible so that we can start to heal the divisions of the campaign and the contest through which we've just passed.
Almost a century and a half ago, Senator Stephen Douglas told Abraham Lincoln, who had just defeated him for the presidency, "Partisan feeling must yield to patriotism. I'm with you, Mr. President, and God bless you." Well, in that same spirit, I say to President-elect Bush that what remains of partisan rancor must now be put aside, and may God bless his stewardship of this country. Neither he nor I anticipated this long and difficult road. Certainly neither of us wanted it to happen. Yet it came, and now it has ended, resolved, as it must be resolved, through the honored institutions of our democracy.
Over the library of one of our great law schools is inscribed the motto, "Not under man but under God and law." That's the ruling principle of American freedom, the source of our democratic liberties. I've tried to make it my guide throughout this contest, as it has guided America's deliberations of all the complex issues of the past five weeks.
Now the U.S. Supreme Court has spoken. Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it. I accept the finality of this outcome which will be ratified next Monday in the Electoral College. And tonight, for the sake of our unity as a people and the strength of our democracy, I offer my concession. I also accept my responsibility, which I will discharge unconditionally, to honor the new President-elect and do everything possible to help him bring Americans together in fulfillment of the great vision that our Declaration of Independence defines and that our Constitution affirms and defends.
Let me say how grateful I am to all those who supported me and supported the cause for which we have fought. Tipper and I feel a deep gratitude to Joe and Hadassah Lieberman, who brought passion and high purpose to our partnership and opened new doors, not just for our campaign but for our country.
This has been an extraordinary election. But in one of God's unforeseen paths, this belatedly broken impasse can point us all to a new common ground, for its very closeness can serve to remind us that we are one people with a shared history and a shared destiny. Indeed, that history gives us many examples of contests as hotly debated, as fiercely fought, with their own challenges to the popular will. Other disputes have dragged on for weeks before reaching resolution. And each time, both the victor and the vanquished have accepted the result peacefully and in a spirit of reconciliation.
So let it be with us.
I know that many of my supporters are disappointed. I am too. But our disappointment must be overcome by our love of country.
And I say to our fellow members of the world community, let no one see this contest as a sign of American weakness. The strength of American democracy is shown most clearly through the difficulties it can overcome. Some have expressed concern that the unusual nature of this election might hamper the next president in the conduct of his office. I do not believe it need be so.
President-elect Bush inherits a nation whose citizens will be ready to assist him in the conduct of his large responsibilities. I, personally, will be at his disposal, and I call on all Americans -- I particularly urge all who stood with us -- to unite behind our next president. This is America. Just as we fight hard when the stakes are high, we close ranks and come together when the contest is done. And while there will be time enough to debate our continuing differences, now is the time to recognize that that which unites us is greater than that which divides us. While we yet hold and do not yield our opposing beliefs, there is a higher duty than the one we owe to political party. This is America and we put country before party; we will stand together behind our new president.
As for what I'll do next, I don't know the answer to that one yet. Like many of you, I'm looking forward to spending the holidays with family and old friends. I know I'll spend time in Tennessee and mend some fences, literally and figuratively.
Some have asked whether I have any regrets, and I do have one regret: that I didn't get the chance to stay and fight for the American people over the next four years, especially for those who need burdens lifted and barriers removed, especially for those who feel their voices have not been heard. I heard you. And I will not forget.
I've seen America in this campaign, and I like what I see. It's worth fighting for and that's a fight I'll never stop. As for the battle that ends tonight, I do believe, as my father once said, that "No matter how hard the loss, defeat might serve as well as victory to shape the soul and let the glory out."
So for me this campaign ends as it began: with the love of Tipper and our family; with faith in God and in the country I have been so proud to serve, from Vietnam to the vice presidency; and with gratitude to our truly tireless campaign staff and volunteers, including all those who worked so hard in Florida for the last 36 days.
Now the political struggle is over and we turn again to the unending struggle for the common good of all Americans and for those multitudes around the world who look to us for leadership in the cause of freedom.
In the words of our great hymn, "America, America": "Let us crown thy good with brotherhood, from sea to shining sea."
And now, my friends, in a phrase I once addressed to others: it's time for me to go.
Thank you, and good night, and God bless America.
I bolded the part that legitimized the victory, even if Gore didn't agree with the ruling by the Supreme Court.
That was a very tough speech by Gore but one he had to give for the same very reason we want Trump to: the legitimacy of our democracy rests on the idea of concession. Gore accepted the results and on that, Bush's win WAS legitimate to many.
Now you can debate whether Gore made the right move but he clearly knew he needed to legitimize the election and he did.
dchill
(38,441 posts)The SCOTUS specious decision certainly was not.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Still Sensible
(2,870 posts)continuity of governance at that time. It is in this context that I heard Nicolle's statement.
I fear the lack of such a bridge to continuity from the current asshole will lead to, at best, any number of divisive and dangerous violent acts by small pockets of the Racist Rubes. At worst, a more organized violent response. Either will be handled by the proper authorities, but probably not before much more direct suffering and damage--both personal and political.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)though. Protecting the electoral systems of democracy even more important than the results. Same as 2016.
SunStar
(66 posts)With Gore's concession, as Nicole was discussing, it was a speech that spoke much louder about Gore's fine character than it did about Bush, but the effect on the peaceful transition of power was important.
It spoke of our system. When the voting is done, we accept the winner. The losing candidate showing that acceptance is important because it is the ultimate statement of 'for good or ill, this is our president; we must move forward with that fact'. That is the legitimacy that Nicole was speaking of and it matters especially when we don't like it.
While I believe the adverse effect will be greater to Trump's legacy than to Biden, Trump's refusal to concede is not helpful.
questionseverything
(9,645 posts)There were 275,000 overvotes in Florida and 2/3 were for gore
The machines didnt count them but if the entire state would have been hand counted for voter intent it would of been clear gore won
An over vote was when gores bubble was punched and his name was written in....this happened overwhelmingly in black neighborhoods
Every bad thing since then has happened because we didnt count the votes correctly
RANDYWILDMAN
(2,664 posts)and they we would have seen how gracious W really was.
He was an incompetent idiot and he knew it and so does she...
Gore was an authentic statesman and we just don't have many of those anymore.