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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:21 PM Nov 2020

Biden on federal investigations of Trump: "I will not do what this president does and use the Justic


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Andrew Solender
@AndrewSolender
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Nov 24, 2020
Biden on federal investigations of Trump: "I will not do what this president does and use the Justice Department as my vehicle to insist that something happen."

Says he has "read about" state/local investigations, doesn't comment further.

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Biden on federal investigations of Trump: "I will not do what this president does and use the Justic (Original Post) soothsayer Nov 2020 OP
In two months we will finally have a President again exboyfil Nov 2020 #1
There are plenty of pissed off FBI Agents, DOJ lawyers and other such folks for that. rzemanfl Nov 2020 #2
Joe has people for that! Mopar151 Nov 2020 #4
It Is Not His Job To Look Under The Trump Rocks DanieRains Nov 2020 #3
Adam Schiff can't prosecute frazzled Nov 2020 #7
The DOJ I'm sure could find plenty to go after sboatcar Nov 2020 #9
Kidnapping children and torturing them is a crime questionseverything Nov 2020 #10
It's not about revenge BarackTheVote Nov 2020 #15
That doesn't stop the independent DOJ from procon Nov 2020 #5
Biden makes a very judiciously crated statement, LanternWaste Nov 2020 #6
Here is an "f" for your subject line. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2020 #13
Step One: MyOwnPeace Nov 2020 #8
It also doesn't stop cooperation with New York State authorities. roamer65 Nov 2020 #11
If yawl run across a crime will you call it out? LizBeth Nov 2020 #12
Biden is absolutely right on this russiamommy Nov 2020 #14

rzemanfl

(29,556 posts)
2. There are plenty of pissed off FBI Agents, DOJ lawyers and other such folks for that.
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:24 PM
Nov 2020

Not to mention businesses and individuals who got screwed.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
3. It Is Not His Job To Look Under The Trump Rocks
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:25 PM
Nov 2020

And charge every slimy thing that comes out.

I say let Adam Schiff do it.

Remember, only prosecute folks who have done crimes.

Let's be fair now.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
7. Adam Schiff can't prosecute
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:40 PM
Nov 2020

The best he can do is investigate and make public reports.

Let’s please get off this repeat of 2008-9, when there were hundreds of daily calls here to prosecute Bush-era officials. It didn’t happen then and it won’t happen now. The most we should expect is for the SDNY to proceed with civil and criminal cases they have been preparing for Trump’s private financial misdeeds and tax evasion.

Nobody is going to prosecute him for putting kids in cages, heinous as that was, or for failing to lead (or rather, acting to mislead) on COVID. There is executive discretion, on the one hand, and lying to the people (and perhaps even child abuse, alas) are not federal crimes. Plus, it is not something that has been done before: prosecuting former presidents.

There is so much that needs to be done. Let’s not get caught in this futile revenge drama, as much as we would love for him to be punished and to set an example for the future. Unless an actual crime is unearthed ( not just horribleness), it’s highly unlikely to happen.

sboatcar

(415 posts)
9. The DOJ I'm sure could find plenty to go after
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:45 PM
Nov 2020

for things he did before he was president anyway......sure, he did lots of messed up stuff as president, but karma will pay him back for that.

questionseverything

(9,646 posts)
10. Kidnapping children and torturing them is a crime
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:53 PM
Nov 2020

Wether it is in federal court or state court

When we had the house,senate and presidency in 2008 and didn’t prosecute bush/cheney for war crimes or deliver a public option we lost the faith of the voters in 2010,it has taken trump and all this time to get another chance.....hopefully we learned our lesson

BarackTheVote

(938 posts)
15. It's not about revenge
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:28 PM
Nov 2020

It’s about drawing a line in the sand and saying this behavior is unacceptable and that the president is not above the law. If we don’t start prosecuting crimes committed while in office, we’ll keep getting unaccountable authoritarian executives, and that’s a fact.

procon

(15,805 posts)
5. That doesn't stop the independent DOJ from
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:32 PM
Nov 2020

investigating whatever wrongdoing they find. If the new AG determines he has a solid case to indict Trump then Biden will not interfere.

As it should be.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. Biden makes a very judiciously crated statement,
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 09:33 PM
Nov 2020

Despite the inaccurate inference the more melodramatic may make, he's ruled absolutely nothing out, and has simultaneously avoided allowing it to become a new unsupported allegation for the Martyred Right (which is what the right wing does best-- allege the martyrdom of their sacred cows at the hands of Democrats and pretend to be insulted when asked for objective evidence to support those empty statements... it's a tough act to miss)

My guess is Biden will dot every I and cross every T prior to taking any actions. Obama had one of the most disciplined administrations I can think of, and I'm quite certain Biden will carry on with that.

russiamommy

(244 posts)
14. Biden is absolutely right on this
Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:25 PM
Nov 2020

DOJ should not be used for political purposes. Biden needs to stay out of any of these investigations - and certainly should not be ordering them. If there are things to investigate law enforcement will do it. I have every confidence that they will, but Biden needs to stay out of it. I’m a former Fed. Back then, at least in my agency, political appointees were left out of all discussions about all criminal investigations. It needs to get back to that standard. Law enforcement needs to be apolitical. Justice is blind and all that...

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