Personally, my money is on Shitler trying to pardon Kyle Rittenhouse. nt

[bbernardini]

Edit: please note that I said TRYING. Since he's been handed almost everything else he wants, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he claimed the power to pardon anybody for any reason, regardless of the charges.

[dware]

1. He can try all he wants,

but he has no pardon powers over state charges, only State Govs. have that power.

[Mike 03]

3. That's an appalling thought.

[hlthe2b]

4. Once again. NO President can pardon state charges.

[ProfessorGAC]

5. Preemptive Pardon?

I thought one had to be convicted first.
This thing won't likely go to trial until after the nitwit moves to Florida. If it does, I don't see how the trial completes in the next 56 days.
I know Ford pardoned Nixon for crimes "he may have committed". I suppose it's possible here, too.
Not sure a governor can do what Ford did.

[dware]

9. And Pissolini has no pardon powers for state charges. nt

[ProfessorGAC]

19. Yep!

That's why I mentioned a governor. I don't know if governors can issue blanket pardons.
Maybe so. I don't know all the laws but the Illinois constitution says a governor can pardon only "after conviction" but that the power can be regulated by law. There may be a law prohibiting preemptive pardons here.
I don't know if Wisconsin's constitution is similar or not. I've only read our state constitution.

[dware]

21. Not sure about other states,

but here is my state Gov., AZ, parson powers.

https://www.pardon411.com/wiki/Arizona_Pardon_Information

Arizona Pardon Information

Authority
The Arizona Constitution gives the Governor the power to “grant reprieves, commutation, and pardons” in all cases except for treason and impeachment.[1] However, the Constitution also says that the Legislature can place limitations and restrictions on this power.[1]

The Constitution requires that the Governor report to the Legislature every year, detailing each pardon he granted the previous year, including the name of the person who received the pardon, the crime he was convicted of, the sentenced he received for that crime, the date he was sentenced, the date the Governor granted the pardon and the reasons for granting the pardon.[2]

Under Arizona law, before the Governor can grant a pardon she must first get the recommendation of the Board of Executive Clemency.[3] The Board of Executive Clemency used to be called the Board of Pardons and Paroles. Today, the Board consists of five members who are appointed by the Governor and serve five-year terms.

Because the focus of this site is on pardons, we do not discuss reprieves, commutations, remission of fines and forfeitures, parole or other types of clemency that may be available in Arizona here. We also do not discuss judicial alternatives such as record expungement, record sealing, setting aside or dismissal of convictions. You should talk to an attorney if you think any of these alternative options may be more appropriate for your situation.

If I'm reading this right, and I'm no lawyer, it seems our Gov. cannot issue blanket pardons either.

[rsdsharp]

28. He just pardoned Flynn, who hasn't been convicted.

He pled guilty, but judgment hasn’t been entered on the plea.

[onenote]

6. I'll happily take your money.

I'll donate it to DU.

How much you willing to put on that prediction?

[NutmegYankee]

7. State crime. nt.

[electric_blue68]

8. Oh, that's a terrible thought... between ...

Drump and Miller's thinking that's a possibility.
Think of the RWNJ's cheering.

[dware]

11. It's not a terrible thought,

because Pissolini has no pardon powers for state charges.

[electric_blue68]

13. Oh, yeah, that's right...

...just like us here with the NYSD.

[beachbumbob]

10. he is not charged with any federal crime so its a no go

[SmartVoter22]

12. Trump will be out of office before Rittenhouse trial even begins

Trump cannot pardon someone until they are convicted and sentenced of a federal crime.

[LuvNewcastle]

17. Ford pardoned Nixon and Nixon was never convicted or sentenced

to a federal crime. Presidents can pardon someone for any federal crimes committed up until the date of the pardon.

I think Trump might give Rittenhouse a pardon because there is a chance he could be tried for violating someone's civil rights or maybe another federal crime. Criminals are sometimes tried for such a charge after they're unsuccessfully prosecuted for heinous state charges. It would be just like him to make sure Rittenhouse can't be charged with anything else if he walks from state charges.

[electric_blue68]

14. 👍 #10, #12

sometimes it's almost become like autopiolot -
think of who drumph would love to pardon from all the people who have done terrible things - but not remember if a Federal charge is involved, or as poster above mentioned have they even even been charged yet.
👍

[David__77]

15. Would if it would make a difference.

He may just pardon him anyway to prevent federal charges in the future.

[hlthe2b]

16. Wisconsin AG and other prosecutors would simply swat him away as they would a fly

There are some issues that are so cut and dry that it isn't even worth discussing. This is one.

[maxsolomon]

18. Don't worry, he'll walk on Jury Nullification

Just like the Bundy Malheur occupiers and Elizabeth Hokoana.

[Hoyt]

20. I bet the little gun-toting punk will get off too. Since there is no video of what happened

in the dark in the first shooting, the defense will claim Rittenhouse was attacked.

Then, they'll turn to the victim who wasn't killed, but pulled his own gun on Rittenhouse. Finally, the third victim attacked Rittenhouse with a skateboard. If the first shooting is deemed "justified," the punk will get off that one too.

Besides, one or two jurors is all it takes to let him walk. They might get him on gun charges, but that likely won't send him to prison. Would be nice to see his legal right to own a gun removed, not that I think it will stop that stupid POS.

Gunz at protests -- if not in public period -- need to be outlawed.

[dware]

22. I think the Feds can bring charges against him for possessing

a firearm illegally due to his age.

Gunz at protests -- if not in public period -- need to be outlawed

Couldn't agree with you more.

[Hoyt]

23. Hope they do, but he likely won't get time for that. Would hope he loses right to own gunz in future

[dware]

25. I agree with everything you say. nt

[maxsolomon]

24. That's what I said.

1 juror will lie about having an opinion on the case during jury selection, then "nullify" the charges and refuse to convict. A mistrial will be declared.

that's how the Malheur occupiers walked. well, not the guy who chose to get shot to death...

[Hoyt]

26. I was agreeing with you. That why I said "too."

Although, I think he may get more jurors than just one or two.

[cwydro]

27. I don't think he can pardon state charges.

[PTWB]

30. Shhhh, it's free money!

[PTWB]

29. I'll take your money!

It should be pretty easy, seeing as Trump does not have pardon power over the state charges that Rittenhouse is facing.