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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden can anger the Trump voters by allowing the DOJ to go after Trump
or anger all the people who actually voted for him by stopping the DOJ.
And let's face it, those assholes are going to be mad no matter what Biden does.
servermsh
(913 posts)KewlKat
(5,624 posts)lame54
(35,284 posts)It will be discussed
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)be listening to see if language is used to tell all to let it go, move on like in 2008. Cause that is not ok.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)state courts and no doubt he will violate other laws too...but right now we need to help thoses in need.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)both the people and the nation. I think it has got to be addressed or things just get worse. I could not disagree more but Dems... Respectfully. I do know we simply see this from two sides of the coin. I get there is so much for Biden to do. This is an incredibly tough time for Biden. And one of the reasons is Trump has run wild for four years. And I strongly believe this is as critical as al the rest of the stuff. He might as well do what he needs to do and allow those that are suppose to, address the criminality of the last four years while implementing what we can to shor3e things up so we are never here again.
Lots to do. Bummer. Our reality, I think.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)2022 is a real possibility and ask yourself if you really think that the average voter at this moment gives two shits about whether Trump is punished. Millions are out of work, losing their homes during winter and there are few shelters too,going hungry, losing businesses. 26 million people will lose unemployment on December 26th. We could see the government shut down in December. Americans voted on economic issues and because of the pandemic. They want to turn the page. We are all in here and political junkies...what we think about Trump is not what many others do...they wanted him gone, he is gone and now Congress needs to be all in about sending help to Americans. I hope we get the two senate seats or we are truly screwed. What would have happened had Roosevelt gone all in on investigating the prior administration instead of formulating the New Deal. We also play into Trump's hands if we go after him in the house. He is spoiling for a fight.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)comment made. Let AG deal. I didn't say otherwise. What I said, was.... Let AG deal. That includes Biden not st4epping in and saying, meh.... lets move on. We have heard that language, and again, that is what I am saying no to.
Then you go on t tell me how the average voter does not care if Trump and republicans get away with AGAIN... not following rule, procedure or law, able to creathe chaos and calamity for all of us to live.
I am saying, .... No. We cannot allow that. And once again the conversation is going away from let AG and others deal with this.
I want to see NAACP throw out lawsuits. I want to see Trump being called for th4e rape trail. I want to see NYC continue. And all the r4est that becomes uncovered.
YES, I think it is important. Barr so abusing his position and DOJ and breaking laws. Cramming the SC. Yes, it at the very LEAST.... needs conversation.
marble falls
(57,077 posts)edhopper
(33,570 posts)And that is coming well before Jan 20.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)make any pick pledge he/she won't go after Trump.
marble falls
(57,077 posts)... telegraphing our punches reads well to our base, but informs our foes. Keep them off balance and guessing. I think Joe Biden is doing very well.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)docgee
(870 posts)Congress will investigate anything and everything, and send referrals to the DOJ. The DOJ can then prosecute at will. Input from Biden is not needed.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)to get it. We need to work on our now depression, pandemic, homelessness, fixing health care, shoring up social security which is running out of money etc. People voted for Biden to end division and get some stuff done. Almost 800,000 people lost their jobs this week. Trump is history. Let the states deal with him and Justice if he has not ended any shot with pardons.
Ponietz
(2,960 posts)We voted for the rule of law and its now or never. Things arent going back to what they were before. How did letting the states deal with PPE work out? Confrontation is inevitable and best ASAP.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Democrats. They are saying and have been saying just that.
I do not know why I am hearing all of a sudden that we need to bow our heads and quietly move forward, simply once again fixing Republican's messes and don't rock the boat. I am listening to young people scared to fuckin death for their future. They are not going to quietly go away, until 2022 simply to vote for m0ore of the same.
Ponietz
(2,960 posts)Wall Street and MSM, at least tacitly, thrust the festering pustule upon us thinking Hillary wouldnt be as good for profits. Did you see, two days ago, how GM reversed its position and is now willing to work with Californias air pollution standards? SMDH
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)working with Calif and other companies too. So when Trump made that move was like a wtf, they were fine doing what they were suppose to. I do not know how that aligns with what you are talking about. I do not listen to MSN so I do not now what is being said. I do know the last couple days there have been many threads saying move on. I know because every time I read it, I say no. Lol. My young adult sons haven't said anything to me yet, but we are all not gonna quietly move on. We have writting fuckin' family off for the criminal, racist, disgusting behavior and support.
It cannot be as if nothing happened.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Trump will either pardon himself or resign and have Pence pardon him. There is 0 chance he leaves the Presidency without mitigating his Federal legal jeopardy.
Trump will say something like I had to pardon myself and my entire administration to stop a Democrat [sic] witch hunt before it starts. And none of his supporters will care. Theyll probably cheer him on.
It also lets Biden avoid any of the messiness that would come with his DOJ prosecuting his predecessor.
Trumps legal problems will all be confined to the various states here he has committed crimes.
randr
(12,409 posts)following the nazi reign were the Nuremberg trials. The crimes must be exposed and punishment inflicted before any healing takes place
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)gave up their Nazi leanings.
randr
(12,409 posts)Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Had the Allies did to Germany in WWI what they did in WWII, there may not have been a rise of Hitler and the Nazi Party.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)He said. He wanted an independent Justice , and the AG will decide.
edhopper
(33,570 posts)Just these are two possibilities
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)So I am thinking it will be up to the states. I am far more concerned about the Pandemic and the terrible economy. Trump is gone. Now our job is to prevent millions of Americans from starving and or dying needlessly of Covid...I am not being dramatic. This could happen.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)And Congressional hearing should focus on the pandemic and the economy...millions of Americans vote for Biden who ran on a unity message...send help to the people. Now I guess that is all I can say. I respect your opinion and some others here but I vehemently disagree. Imagine in 2022 if we lose the House and have not regained the Senate.
fearnobush
(3,960 posts)Nuff said.
msongs
(67,395 posts)xmas74
(29,674 posts)Or resign and have Pence do it. The Biden Administration has enough to do. Let the states take on Trump where the only pardon comes from the governor-and Cuomo will never pardon him
stillcool
(32,626 posts)but when crimes are committed, investigations take place. If there is enough evidence charges are filed. End of story. Those people that we're supposed to be so afraid of angering can kiss it...or bring it. Whatever.
handmade34
(22,756 posts)the AG will be, should be, independent and can do the right thing