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sboatcar

(415 posts)
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 11:49 AM Nov 2020

What if Trump starts his own party?

Given that he's so ego driven, and he has millions of adoring fans, wouldn't it stand to reason that he'd try to take all those fans, start his own party, and keep them going to his rallies and slavishly praising him? If he was the head of his own party, he wouldn't have to answer to any opposition or anything.
I have a feeling that this is something that keeps some of the higher ups in the RNC awake at night. He could potentially ruin the republican party for at least an election cycle or two. I personally highly recommend that he does this.

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What if Trump starts his own party? (Original Post) sboatcar Nov 2020 OP
if that happens, they would have some local success but a split GOP IS GOOD for democrats beachbumbob Nov 2020 #1
That's why I highly recommend he does that sboatcar Nov 2020 #3
I really don't care, do you? we can do it Nov 2020 #2
we should encourage "trump party" as the outcome would be of great benefit to democrats on a beachbumbob Nov 2020 #6
seems to be handmade34 Nov 2020 #14
🤣🤣🤣 we can do it Nov 2020 #37
The Magacon Party. ...or, The Trumplicon Party. 42bambi Nov 2020 #4
Or the Diaper Don party. CatMor Nov 2020 #12
Resurgence of the "Know Nothing" party calguy Nov 2020 #13
Might be wishful thinking, but I'd take it... Wounded Bear Nov 2020 #5
So would I! Divide and conquer. calimary Nov 2020 #10
Today's, he's the country's problem. After 1/20/21, he's the RNC's problem. CincyDem Nov 2020 #7
That is what I am hoping fir! SlogginThroughIt Nov 2020 #8
Then he can cry if he wants to ... dweller Nov 2020 #9
There's been rumblings about that... paleotn Nov 2020 #11
I wonder if he'd be allowed to live outside the country sboatcar Nov 2020 #19
As usual with this guy...uncharted territory. paleotn Nov 2020 #25
Not so odd - he's been trying to get some Indonesian properties Retrograde Nov 2020 #38
Trump Party rso Nov 2020 #15
It would be the best possible thing for Democrats. Squinch Nov 2020 #16
Bingo! paleotn Nov 2020 #27
He doesn't need to. A party disintegrated and became his. DFW Nov 2020 #17
Teddy Roosevelt: Bull Moose Party. Trump: Bull Shit Party. Sneederbunk Nov 2020 #18
Perfect. FM123 Nov 2020 #20
You nailed it! Brother Mythos Nov 2020 #35
I believe he would be quite successful ... Op-ed Daily Nov 2020 #21
There is a lot more to the parties than what we see underpants Nov 2020 #22
The gift that keeps cilla4progress Nov 2020 #23
Or just run again in 2024... N_E_1 for Tennis Nov 2020 #24
The trumpublican Party will be short lived. Norbert Nov 2020 #26
I tink he has his own party now -- the GOP. Those Republicans who don't NCjack Nov 2020 #28
Trump won't do anything about forming a new party until Baked Potato Nov 2020 #29
Well, then he'll steal votes from the Republican candidate and MineralMan Nov 2020 #30
He already has his own party! Johnny2X2X Nov 2020 #31
He's too lazy to do it. louis-t Nov 2020 #32
It will fail just like everything else he's done- Fiendish Thingy Nov 2020 #33
I think he should Bettie Nov 2020 #34
Go for it. It will just siphon votes away from the GOP. Aristus Nov 2020 #36
I saw this suggestion come up again today True Dough Dec 2020 #39
 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
1. if that happens, they would have some local success but a split GOP IS GOOD for democrats
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 11:50 AM
Nov 2020

on national elections

sboatcar

(415 posts)
3. That's why I highly recommend he does that
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 11:52 AM
Nov 2020

Sure they wouldn't win any national elections, but it would pull enough votes from republicans to really shift the balance of power.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
6. we should encourage "trump party" as the outcome would be of great benefit to democrats on a
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 11:53 AM
Nov 2020

national level

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
14. seems to be
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:05 PM
Nov 2020

my standard response to anything trumpian these days!!!

usually though (and excuse me).... I don't really fucking care, do you? ...added emphasis

CincyDem

(6,351 posts)
7. Today's, he's the country's problem. After 1/20/21, he's the RNC's problem.
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 11:56 AM
Nov 2020

As long as the base can rustle up a minion of 10 followers to fawn on Trump - he will be a force on the right.

Throughout his life, he has done nothing but take what others have built, slap his name on it, and proceed to drive it into the ground.

The RNC will be no different and the ruin will last more than a few election cycles. I can only hope they go the way of the Whigs.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
11. There's been rumblings about that...
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:00 PM
Nov 2020

The problem is, it's tough to do rallies from jail or a foreign country lacking an extradition treaty with the US. The rubes don't travel internationally much, unless you consider Myrtle Beach a foreign country. Donnie recently had an unannounced meeting with the Indonesian Minister of Maritime Affairs and Investment. Odd, since it's extremely rare for US presidents to meet with foreign functionaries below the ambassador level. But....you guessed it...The US has no extradition treaties with Indonesia. One of the better countries lacking such. Other than Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Russia, the rest are extremely poor, failed states or both.

sboatcar

(415 posts)
19. I wonder if he'd be allowed to live outside the country
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:11 PM
Nov 2020

he's a walking talking national security risk.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
25. As usual with this guy...uncharted territory.
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:21 PM
Nov 2020

That's a good point. Initially, that might be a problem, but over time, whatever he knows becomes stale. Then again, he doesn't get daily briefings and probably pays little attention to what he does get. Really, he may not know anything Putin doesn't already know. So no real security risk compared to a normal president. He's of no real hostage value either. If some foreign actor threatens to kill him, half the country would thank them.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
38. Not so odd - he's been trying to get some Indonesian properties
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 06:25 PM
Nov 2020

since before he was installed as president. IMHO, is Donnie putting himself above the country's interests yet again.

rso

(2,271 posts)
15. Trump Party
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:07 PM
Nov 2020

That would be great. In fact, I think one of the reasons Trump has the GOP by the proverbial “short hairs”, is the mortal threat that he poses for the GOP is he starts his own Party.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
27. Bingo!
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:25 PM
Nov 2020

Kind of a repeat of the 92 and 96 presidential elections, but writ large. The ghost of Ross Perot coming to a Senate or Congressional race near you.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
17. He doesn't need to. A party disintegrated and became his.
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:09 PM
Nov 2020

It's like high fructose corn syrup or Roundup weed killer. Both are highly detrimental to the health of anyone that uses them, but millions use them all the same. Immediate gratification and short term gain, and all that.

The Trump Republicans are like the NSDAP in Germany in 1938. In 1938 the NSDAP owned the place, and no one dared publicly oppose them. Their leader was officially known only as "the leader." Ten years later, they were spurned, detested, disgraced, and forbidden. No one even wanted to admit they had ever been a member.

 

Op-ed Daily

(69 posts)
21. I believe he would be quite successful ...
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:14 PM
Nov 2020

We've needed a "third" party for a long time and this may very well be the start of a 4-party system for some time.

Think about it - if Trump takes his cult members with him, we're talking ~1/2 the nation which would create a viable split. There would be neocons and nationalists (Reagonian Republicans vs Hitler), and it appears the Democratic party may split evenly as well - we will have neoliberals and progressives (or Clintonian Democrats and FDR Dems).

If he does that, then it MAY help Democrats in the short-term, because I'm certain there are a lot of "Republicans" that won't want to follow Trump into the pits of hell. But, I have a feeling that post-Biden will result in a clear split within the current party of neoliberal Clintonian Democrats vs Rooseveltian Democrats.

But eventually, they would likely coalesce back into something else to keep pushing this two-party nonsense we've had for so long.

underpants

(182,767 posts)
22. There is a lot more to the parties than what we see
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:16 PM
Nov 2020

There is a lot of infrastructure and foundation. From “bosses” (who still exist) to teams of volunteers who may or may not come on orders from a boss to registering candidates and campaign finding down to the very local level to fundraising that candidates can piggy back on to a lot of other aspects...its more than just being on TV.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,715 posts)
24. Or just run again in 2024...
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:19 PM
Nov 2020

Four years of him on the republican stage keeping other potential candidates at bay. He would hog the entire party making it completely his. Observe the state it’s in now, the party is fragile he would collapse it in those four years.

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
26. The trumpublican Party will be short lived.
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:23 PM
Nov 2020

There are some MAGAs they are perfectly willing to go over the edge and beyond because of their ideology. Once the losses mount up to a relatively unified Democratic party it will be the end of the trumpublican party. It may not look like it now but they are just not in a position of strength.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
28. I tink he has his own party now -- the GOP. Those Republicans who don't
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:32 PM
Nov 2020

like that can leave and form a new party -- e.g., " I was screwed and dumped by Trump."

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
29. Trump won't do anything about forming a new party until
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:44 PM
Nov 2020

he figures out who he can blame when it fails. If he goes off from the mainstream GOP, it will be done with his offspring.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
30. Well, then he'll steal votes from the Republican candidate and
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:48 PM
Nov 2020

We'll win again. That would be a terrific thing.

Johnny2X2X

(19,038 posts)
31. He already has his own party!
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 12:54 PM
Nov 2020

Trump owns the Republican Party. There is virtually no dissent from him in that party. They will 100% follow him no matter what. Zero chance he starts another party when he already owns one.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,575 posts)
33. It will fail just like everything else he's done-
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 01:48 PM
Nov 2020

That’s why he wants to take over an established brand.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
34. I think he should
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 01:55 PM
Nov 2020

after all, he needs constant adoration.

The MAGATs need someone to worship.

And the fallout would benefit all of the humans in this country by causing Republicans to lose elections.

I think the TRUMP or MAGA party should field candidates in every race from dog catcher to president.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
36. Go for it. It will just siphon votes away from the GOP.
Fri Nov 27, 2020, 02:01 PM
Nov 2020

I'm cool with a right-wing split-vote in perpetuity...

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
39. I saw this suggestion come up again today
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 06:02 PM
Dec 2020

It's not out of the question. Of course we would welcome it because it would split the Republican vote.

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