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still_one

(92,141 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 08:55 AM Nov 2020

republicans are already coming out saying they will not allow Neera Tanden to lead the Office

of Management and Budget

On what grounds?

She certainly is more than qualified, and served in the Obama administration, so the republican "threats" that they will not vote to confirm has nothing to do with her qualifications or ability

I have no doubt the republicans in the senate will do this with other qualified candidates that President Biden appoints, which highlight what we already know, just how important the Georgia runoffs will be


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republicans are already coming out saying they will not allow Neera Tanden to lead the Office (Original Post) still_one Nov 2020 OP
Just place the nominee in as "acting" director or whatever. patricia92243 Nov 2020 #1
I like it.... +++ still_one Nov 2020 #2
+1...... screw 'em... two can play this game... nt mitch96 Nov 2020 #11
Can't do that. And Trump didn't either. onenote Nov 2020 #19
Name someone who can get Senate confirmation first. Lonestarblue Nov 2020 #21
Deputy Directors require confirmation as well. onenote Nov 2020 #38
Do it anyway and see if the justice department enforces Alpeduez21 Nov 2020 #39
It isn't up to DOJ onenote Nov 2020 #40
He did for DHS and that was why one of his actions treestar Nov 2020 #42
Only if they're currently serving. Which I doubt they are. onenote Nov 2020 #44
Drat treestar Nov 2020 #45
She said mean things about republican senators FBaggins Nov 2020 #3
Seems that way, because they sure can't say she isn't qualified still_one Nov 2020 #5
Because she "said bad stuff about Republicans on TV". That is literally IT, bullwinkle428 Nov 2020 #4
Fuck 'em they lost the election they don't get to set the rules. Botany Nov 2020 #6
I think that will only work if we win the Georgia runoffs, because I think it needs Senate still_one Nov 2020 #12
Neera rso Nov 2020 #13
I agree, and hope we do that, though obviously I hope we win the Georgia runoffs, and can tell the still_one Nov 2020 #16
Can't be done. See post #19. onenote Nov 2020 #20
Acting rso Nov 2020 #27
Because he appointed people who already were confirmed to another position onenote Nov 2020 #32
Because they are Assholes. spanone Nov 2020 #7
TRUTH CaptainTruth Nov 2020 #24
Horrors True Blue American Nov 2020 #8
Elections have consequences. FSogol Nov 2020 #9
And yet, republicans found no queries ... Iliyah Nov 2020 #10
So how many times did Mick Mulvaney attack Democrats before his OMB nomination? dalton99a Nov 2020 #14
Acting for everyone. Ignore the Senate. kairos12 Nov 2020 #15
we know this always a work around for all this, screw GOP, they lost beachbumbob Nov 2020 #17
A strong female who tells it like it is Bradshaw3 Nov 2020 #18
Question. Does the Constitution itself grant the Senate the right to reject the people that the cstanleytech Nov 2020 #22
Well, that ended quickly gratuitous Nov 2020 #23
We are going to see a lot of that hypocrisy no doubt, and I hope we call it out, because I sure still_one Nov 2020 #25
The confirmation hearing will be interesting! George II Nov 2020 #26
For me it will be more interesting if we win the Georgia runoffs still_one Nov 2020 #28
Are repug congress critters immune from charges of sedition? rickyhall Nov 2020 #29
They'd have to commit sedition. Which being silent while Trump contested the election isn't. onenote Nov 2020 #41
Not the silent ones but the ones who backed up his claims and thank you. rickyhall Nov 2020 #46
Wonder, would SOME rethugs cross lines and vote for her? (possible?) bluestarone Nov 2020 #30
Trump Heading To Georgia dishingtrump Nov 2020 #31
I hope this backfires on them big time still_one Nov 2020 #33
McConnell will just say, "Elections have consequences, and the people elected Republicans to be world wide wally Nov 2020 #34
hopefully we will win the Georgia runoffs, and tell him where he can stick it still_one Nov 2020 #35
Biden needs to scream "Obstructionism!" for 2 years bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #36
What HYPOCRITES Republicans they are... ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2020 #37
The GOP may not confirm anyone. Demsrule86 Nov 2020 #43
A lot of them were confirmed previously, so how will they justify that? still_one Nov 2020 #48
They don't ever justify what they do. How did the justify filling Ginsberg's seat after Demsrule86 Dec 2020 #51
This is why several republican senators need to be investigated and charged MaeScott Nov 2020 #47
Piss on GOPers. "Acting" has been established as precedent by trumPutin and Russiapublicans. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2020 #49
and I hope we do just as you suggest +++ still_one Nov 2020 #50

onenote

(42,698 posts)
19. Can't do that. And Trump didn't either.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:09 AM
Nov 2020

Vacancies Act doesn't allow it. it requires that "acting" cabinet heads either be the "first assistant" at the time the vacancy occurred (who would be a Trump appointee), a currently serving official who was confirmed for a different position by the Senate (or a non-confirmed senior official who has served for at least 90 days the year before the vacancy occurred.

Trump named a lot of acting cabinet officials, but with only a couple of exceptions (which were invalidated by the courts), the Vacancies Act was followed.

Lonestarblue

(9,977 posts)
21. Name someone who can get Senate confirmation first.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:21 AM
Nov 2020

Name Neera the assistant director. The director steps down after 90 days and Neera becomes the Acting Director. Does that work?

onenote

(42,698 posts)
38. Deputy Directors require confirmation as well.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:47 AM
Nov 2020

She'd have to be hired to a senior position that doesn't require confirmation (because if the repubs block her confirmation as director, they'll also block her confirmation as deputy).

If she gets a senior position that doesn't require confirmation and was serving in it for 90 days before a vacancy in the top spot occurs, she might be able to be named acting director. But there are other potential hurdles: the statute governing OMB may have provisions relating to filling a vacancy that supersede the Vacancies Act. And acting appointments come with time limits.

Alpeduez21

(1,751 posts)
39. Do it anyway and see if the justice department enforces
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:50 AM
Nov 2020

the rules. It sure was useless the last four years.

onenote

(42,698 posts)
40. It isn't up to DOJ
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:12 PM
Nov 2020

Anyone impacted by anything the agency does when headed by someone not legitimately appointed could sue to strike down that action.


Biden's folks are smart enough not to try something that risky.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
42. He did for DHS and that was why one of his actions
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:14 PM
Nov 2020

was enjoined in a lawsuit.

Would Obama era confirmations be good enough?

onenote

(42,698 posts)
44. Only if they're currently serving. Which I doubt they are.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:16 PM
Nov 2020

A previously confirmed official can be named to an acting position only if they are serving in their confirmed position when the vacancy occurs.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
45. Drat
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:18 PM
Nov 2020

This is surely going to be a problem. I just hope Mitch gets blamed as he should, rather than Biden. You just know some on DU are going to say Biden is not being tough enough.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
4. Because she "said bad stuff about Republicans on TV". That is literally IT,
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 09:21 AM
Nov 2020

based on the discussion I was listening to on NPR this morning.

still_one

(92,141 posts)
12. I think that will only work if we win the Georgia runoffs, because I think it needs Senate
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 09:51 AM
Nov 2020

confirmation

rso

(2,271 posts)
13. Neera
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 10:03 AM
Nov 2020

Do like Donnie did, name her as Acting Director, requiring no Senate confirmation. We can play their game as well.

still_one

(92,141 posts)
16. I agree, and hope we do that, though obviously I hope we win the Georgia runoffs, and can tell the
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 10:12 AM
Nov 2020

repugs to shove it


rso

(2,271 posts)
27. Acting
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:36 AM
Nov 2020

So how was Donnie able to get away with having Acting officials, including Acting Cabinet members ?

onenote

(42,698 posts)
32. Because he appointed people who already were confirmed to another position
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:41 AM
Nov 2020

such as a deputy secretary position.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. And yet, republicans found no queries ...
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 09:40 AM
Nov 2020

on confirming incompetent cronies to cabinet, administrations and key positions.

dalton99a

(81,455 posts)
14. So how many times did Mick Mulvaney attack Democrats before his OMB nomination?
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 10:05 AM
Nov 2020

He was such a lying partisan asshole that even McCain voted no

Bradshaw3

(7,513 posts)
18. A strong female who tells it like it is
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 10:25 AM
Nov 2020

That's all it takes to make her loathsome to them. Of course they will approve the most loathsome, racist, sexist, unqualified pig drumpf nominated for any post.

cstanleytech

(26,284 posts)
22. Question. Does the Constitution itself grant the Senate the right to reject the people that the
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:26 AM
Nov 2020

President wants to serve in his cabinet?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. Well, that ended quickly
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:29 AM
Nov 2020

What happened to the President is entitled to choose his own people? I seem to recall that was the standard Republican response no matter how unqualified a nominee was under Trump or Bush. I'm sure the popular media will call out the rank hypocrisy of Republicans, right?

still_one

(92,141 posts)
25. We are going to see a lot of that hypocrisy no doubt, and I hope we call it out, because I sure
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:33 AM
Nov 2020

don't think the media will.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
29. Are repug congress critters immune from charges of sedition?
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:39 AM
Nov 2020

Not all of them, but certainly trump enablers who agreed with him on evidence-free election fraud. Just wondering...

onenote

(42,698 posts)
41. They'd have to commit sedition. Which being silent while Trump contested the election isn't.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 12:12 PM
Nov 2020

18 USC §2384. Seditious conspiracy

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

18 USC §2385. Advocating overthrow of Government

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or
Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or
Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
If two or more persons conspire to commit any offense named in this section, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.
As used in this section, the terms "organizes" and "organize", with respect to any society, group, or assembly of persons, include the recruiting of new members, the forming of new units, and the regrouping or expansion of existing clubs, classes, and other units of such society, group, or assembly of persons.

bluestarone

(16,907 posts)
30. Wonder, would SOME rethugs cross lines and vote for her? (possible?)
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:41 AM
Nov 2020

How many would it take to vote yes?

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
34. McConnell will just say, "Elections have consequences, and the people elected Republicans to be
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:43 AM
Nov 2020

a check on Biden"
Guaranteed.

bucolic_frolic

(43,133 posts)
36. Biden needs to scream "Obstructionism!" for 2 years
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:45 AM
Nov 2020

Tag the GOP Senate a good one, and since it's apparent to all, make it stick

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
37. What HYPOCRITES Republicans they are...
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:46 AM
Nov 2020

They have tolerated and coddled Trump with his LIES, Name calling, and BULLYING others willingly.

But when someone tells the TRUTH about them, they get all snooty. Neera will tell them to their faces in her honest answers before the Senate as they show their disdain for her. If she is not confirmed, she wil, have exposed them even further. Neera wins regardless.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
51. They don't ever justify what they do. How did the justify filling Ginsberg's seat after
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 11:47 PM
Dec 2020

Merrick Garland?

MaeScott

(878 posts)
47. This is why several republican senators need to be investigated and charged
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 01:40 PM
Nov 2020

Graham needs to be charged with sedition. A few more with insider trading. Knock them out of the Senate. Play hardball.

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