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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:18 PM Nov 2020

I encountered a Trump voter who spoke about "communist-democrats" Saturday.

I was gathering signatures with a friend of mine for a local person who is running for office in my area. A person from one household was signing my petition as my friend was speaking with the neighbor next door.
This Trump voter came out of the house, followed my friend as she joined me, and spoke to both of us about "communist-democrats", and other Trump brand idiocy.

My friend attempted to reason with the Trump voter, but reason never works on the unreasonable.

And that is, and will remain, a huge problem for the near future as 70 million US voters believe that up is down and down is up.

What is critical, in my view, is to motivate the 33% who did not vote, or were prevented from voting.

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I encountered a Trump voter who spoke about "communist-democrats" Saturday. (Original Post) guillaumeb Nov 2020 OP
We Need To Begin Reffering To Them As Facsist Republicans nt sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #1
The problem is that many cannot be reached. guillaumeb Nov 2020 #2
If They're Going To Lump Us All Together As "Communist" Socialist Democrats sfstaxprep Nov 2020 #11
Fair, and in many cases, accurate. eom guillaumeb Nov 2020 #13
Wait a minute.... jmbar2 Nov 2020 #3
It is everywhere on right wing media. guillaumeb Nov 2020 #5
Yes. According to wingnuts we had a socialist economy during the Eisenhower years... JHB Nov 2020 #9
"communist-democrats"? 4Q2u2 Nov 2020 #4
People who say things like this are unreachable. guillaumeb Nov 2020 #6
It's not out of no where. BlueLucy Nov 2020 #7
I always screw with those nut jobs.. dubyadiprecession Nov 2020 #8
I had someone a few months ago use this little number: Initech Nov 2020 #12
You cannot. guillaumeb Nov 2020 #14
My response to the Nazi thing is Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Nov 2020 #10
And a large portion of them are truly unreachable. guillaumeb Dec 2020 #15
We do have some people proudly calling themselves socialist AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #16
But the point for the tacticians who create these memes is to put people on the defensive, guillaumeb Dec 2020 #17
If we didn't have anyone in our party calling themselves socialist AmericanCanuck Dec 2020 #18
Try this: "Obama had 8 years in office, 2 with control of the House and Senate..." brooklynite Dec 2020 #20
Trump's delusional followers are immune to fact based argument. eom guillaumeb Dec 2020 #21

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. The problem is that many cannot be reached.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:22 PM
Nov 2020

Yes, many are fascists, but millions are living in their alternative facts universe.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
11. If They're Going To Lump Us All Together As "Communist" Socialist Democrats
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:03 PM
Nov 2020

It's only fair we refer to ALL of them as Fascist Republicans.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
5. It is everywhere on right wing media.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:34 PM
Nov 2020

It is obvious that for many GOP voters, words have no real meaning.

Orwell would have understood.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
9. Yes. According to wingnuts we had a socialist economy during the Eisenhower years...
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:59 PM
Nov 2020

...even though they'll deny it if you put it that bluntly.

Eisenhower was a Republican, so if he's socialist any Democrat is a communist. Q.E.Dumbass.

 

4Q2u2

(1,406 posts)
4. "communist-democrats"?
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:31 PM
Nov 2020

Is that like a Chimera?
Or possibly a Pegasus?
Two things that are fabled to be one, but is Fantasy.

I get it now. That is when you get to pick Red or Red for your Party colors???????????????
I am lost who is the commie now?



BlueLucy

(1,609 posts)
7. It's not out of no where.
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:49 PM
Nov 2020

Portland mayoral candidate wore a skirt plastered with faces of Communist leaders and her campaign manager openly bragged about being a communist. We have our share of people on our side who have in the past praised communist dictators. If we continue to do crazy things like this we'll lose.

dubyadiprecession

(5,706 posts)
8. I always screw with those nut jobs..
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 04:52 PM
Nov 2020

I tell them if they don’t shut up, they will be put on a list for interrogation in one of comrade Soros, gulags in 2021.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
12. I had someone a few months ago use this little number:
Mon Nov 30, 2020, 05:10 PM
Nov 2020

"Democrats are Nazis because they believe in socialism and Nazis have 'national socialist' in their name."

How the fuck do you respond to that one?

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,919 posts)
19. My response to the Nazi thing is
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:29 PM
Dec 2020

If Nazis were Socialists then Saddam Hussein's Elite Republican Guard were members of the GOP.

Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
15. And a large portion of them are truly unreachable.
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 08:06 PM
Dec 2020

Sadly, Fox and the right wing media machine have convinced them that up is down.

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
16. We do have some people proudly calling themselves socialist
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 08:16 PM
Dec 2020

That does reflect poorly on the party and we get into being called communist.

There is actually very little difference between the two and 95% of the voters do not know the difference.

We lost Florida because of the socialist label. Why put the Democrats on the defensive to make them say they are NOT socialists?

When one is defending, one is losing.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
17. But the point for the tacticians who create these memes is to put people on the defensive,
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:19 PM
Dec 2020

and to scare uninformed voters.
And judging by what I read and hear from many Trump voters, it is working.

The issue is calling a centrist like Kamala Harris a socialist reveals that the speaker either has no idea what socialism is, or the speaker is lying.

 

AmericanCanuck

(1,102 posts)
18. If we didn't have anyone in our party calling themselves socialist
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:22 PM
Dec 2020

we wouldn't have that problem would we?

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
20. Try this: "Obama had 8 years in office, 2 with control of the House and Senate..."
Tue Dec 1, 2020, 09:29 PM
Dec 2020

"What Communism did he and Biden implement?"

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