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kpete

(71,964 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:02 PM Jan 2012

CIA Blames BUSHCO: America's screw-ups come from BAD leaders, not lousy spies!

Think Again: Intelligence
I served in the CIA for 28 years and I can tell you: America's screw-ups come from bad leaders, not lousy spies.

(snippets)

"Bad Intelligence Led to the Iraq War."

(????)

No, bad leadership did.
Intelligence may have figured prominently in Bush's selling of the invasion of Iraq, but it played almost no role in the decision itself. If the intelligence community's assessments pointed to any course of action, it was avoiding a war, not launching one.

..................

Had Bush read the intelligence community's report, he would have seen his administration's case for invasion stood on its head. The intelligence officials concluded that Saddam was unlikely to use any weapons of mass destruction against the United States or give them to terrorists -- unless the United States invaded Iraq and tried to overthrow his regime. The intelligence community did not believe, as the president claimed, that the Iraqi regime was an ally of al Qaeda, and it correctly foresaw any attempt to establish democracy in a post-Saddam Iraq as a hard, messy slog.

the rest (long, but fascinating imho):
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/01/03/intelligence?page=full


and THIS is what it got us:



http://www.aclu.org/national-security/guantanamo-numbers


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CIA Blames BUSHCO: America's screw-ups come from BAD leaders, not lousy spies! (Original Post) kpete Jan 2012 OP
That's true only to a certain extent Weisbergkevin Jan 2012 #1
Something's not right here... Scuba Jan 2012 #2
Yeah, yeah...and the CIA was only following orders. Solly Mack Jan 2012 #3
 

Weisbergkevin

(39 posts)
1. That's true only to a certain extent
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jan 2012

Some of our screw-ups came from both our leaders and the CIA. Let's not forget the CIA used to do whatever they wanted to do at one point.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
3. Yeah, yeah...and the CIA was only following orders.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jan 2012

Yes, the "bad intelligence" lie made by Bush was just that - a lie.

But no one forced anyone in the CIA to commit war crimes. They knew better. They did it anyway. Now they're cowardly hiding behind a bunch of bullshit "memos".

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