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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTalking with my wife ,I'm thinking Congresswoman Katie porter speaker of the house
We have to move on mrs Pelosi had her moment we evolve and grow as a party. That is why I like Katie porter she is so intelligent and in their faces. My wife is still Nancy pelosi as my wife thinks she is tested. Over hot tea we can discuss how we feel. I feel Nancy time is over respectfully.
Irish_Dem
(46,924 posts)jimfields33
(15,774 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,369 posts)FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)For that matter, so is AOC. They're both smart, talented women, but still green. It needs to be someone with lots of experience, street smarts, and has done favors for many people.
That's the idea behind the "favor bank" - someday I might need a favor from you, so I'm doing this thing for you now. Nancy Pelosi has that down to a science.
Just sayin'
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)is not the same as Congressional seniority. Two different things.
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)So there is no case to close because they are two completely different things. Its a totally false analogy.
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Porter becoming Speaker of the House which requires a certain amount of congressional seniority. Bringing up Obama running for President as a comparison is a false analogy and intellectually dishonest.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)I think Pelosi has done an excellent job, Schumer not so much. As for Katie, she's great, but she is also new in the institution, with so many "ahead" of her in terms of general and specific experience, so even if she got a majority of votes, there would also be extra challenges in dealing with egos. Is she capable? ABSOLUTELY. And Steny Hoyer, no matter how good he is, is not likely at this point to rise to the position of Speaker. He should set aside so someone younger gets a chance to train for leadership roles.
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samnsara
(17,619 posts)...will run for POTUS someday...and win!
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,416 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)He has the long list of proven years of creds & well earned respect among his Party & peers.
Speaker Jeffries, it will rightly be.
42bambi
(1,753 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)She held the House firm through incredible opposition,.
She can have the chair as long as she wants as far as I am concerned.
dlk
(11,554 posts)Pelosi has provided excellent leadership through very treacherous & tumultuous times. No one has her depth & breadth of experience. The speakers job is like bearding cats & requires an experienced hand. No one could do it better than Nancy. Going forward with such a slim margin, well need her expertise to prevail.
Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,567 posts)the politicians play politics amongst themselves and the Speaker job is as much an alliance/team kind of thing as it is a popularity/job skill based contest. I like Katie, the way she handles herself and the approach she uses to illustrate her point. I like AOC's way of bringing the real world to Wash DC. Neither have been long enough on the job, in my opinion, to establish a strong enough backing to be selected Speaker. It doesn't matter what voters think, the decision belongs to House Democrats... .
BGBD
(3,282 posts)Just because she has had a few big moments in committee hearings doesn't mean she's ready to step in a Speaker. We are talking about the CEO of the House and the 3rd person in line to be President here. Putting that in the hands of anybody with 2 years of experience is nuts. Maybe she should try chairing a committe first and see how it goes.
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BGBD
(3,282 posts)To appoint around them to make sure they succeed.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)BGBD
(3,282 posts)Was talking about Obama being elected President without much experience. My point was that Presidents get to being on hundreds of people who are dedicated to helping them achieve their goals. Speakers don't get to do that. It's a totally different job.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)BGBD
(3,282 posts)It's supposed to say "an entire". I'm posting from a phone.
mcar
(42,302 posts)blm
(113,043 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)Jim Clyburn, for instance. I suspect that he is next in line.
MLAA
(17,282 posts)He is the tie breaker 😬
maxsolomon
(33,310 posts)She's said she will step down in 2022.
It won't be Porter then, or AOC. It will be someone who's put in the time in Leadership for a good long while.
Likely Hoyer if he wants it.
That's just how these things work.
bdamomma
(63,837 posts)could be Steny if he wants it. They need someone who can fight back like Nancy. Who can forget that picture of Nancy standing and scolding tRump. She's no one to fool with.
maxsolomon
(33,310 posts)that's not how you become Speaker.
I doubt Schiff wants this, but in 2022 he'd be my choice.
That is, if Newsome doesn't kick him upstairs into the Senate next month. He should have right of 1st refusal for his masterful Impeachment management.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)and her chief Deputy is a Congress Person from Mass. Clark?
TwilightZone
(25,467 posts)seaglass
(8,171 posts)background - she worked with John Lewis to lead the House sit-in re: gun control back in 2016:
https://time.com/4380310/house-sitin-congress-gun-control-katherine-clark/
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)From my old Contacts in the Dem Party,this Lady would be the bests person to succeed Pelosi. She might be a ton more aggressive and what our Party needs.
My guess is,two years from now,Ms.Clark would be the necessary take no prisoners Leader needed to fill the job.
It is time to get the Next Generation brought up to speed.
BlueTsunami2018
(3,491 posts)Build consensus, whip votes and strongarm people if necessary. Its not a matter of just being a good congressperson, you have to be able to lead the party. Nancy Pelosi spent years building the relationships and acquiring the skills needed for the position. Its not a thing just anyone can do.
Katie Porter is an excellent congressperson but I dont know that she has the skills and gravitas for that position yet.
AmericanCanuck
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Running and being elected president is completely different from congressional seniority rules.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)in this thread.
mcar
(42,302 posts)Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)Everyone doesn't have both.
Katie Porter is awesome -I adore her. But she hasn't indicated any desire to do the Speaker's job, which would require her to stop doing the things she's proven extraordinary at - for example, being a kick-ass committee member - and focus on the inside baseball, cat-herding, vote counting, money raising tasks that Speakers must do.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Not even close to being ready for that job. The Speaker needs to know where the bodies are buried, who owes who what, who can be arm-twisted and who needs to be cajoled, etc. Porter isnt in that position yet.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)has set a high bar.
JI7
(89,247 posts)Considering his lack of accomplishments after decades in public office perhaps he needs to step down and someone else replace him.
what a good choice, she's marvelous.