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ohiosmith

(24,262 posts)
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 02:32 PM Jan 2012

Is pedophilia a disability? Greece thinks so.

Link: http://jonathanturley.org/2012/01/10/greece-declares-pedophilia-a-disability-deserving-state-benefits/

The Greek government is being denounced by the National Confederation of Disabled People after it added pedophiles, exhibitionists, and kleptomaniacs to the list of disabled people entitled to state benefits. They have joined pyromaniacs, compulsive gamblers, fetishists and sadomasochists as persons entitled to ask for government assistance.

For example, a pyromaniac or pedophiles is now entitled to disability pay up to 35 percent while a diabetic is entitled to only 10 percent disability. Presumably, a diabetic pedophiles could received 45 percent disability, so it might be useful for diabetics to claim an interest in child or fires or both.

As Greece struggles with demands to reduce its bloated state funding, this is not a useful step. In Greece, one out of five workers is a state employee, a whooping 20 percent of the working population. The state is having to cut benefits for citizens. I am all in favor of paying for treatment for pedophiliacs and kleptomaniacs, but should it be treated as a disability? What do you think?

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JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
6. Actually, Limbaugh is likelier to use this piece as the subject of his next show.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 03:13 PM
Jan 2012

The real point of the piece is not that it makes no sense to classify pedophiles as disabled (it doesn't, assuming that's really the case), but that "Bankrupt, Spendthrift Greek Freeloaders Take German Taxpayer Money and Give it to PEDOPHILES!!!" makes for great smear propaganda.

The critique of Greek policy on this point (whatever the actual details and faults of it) should be its own issue.

It should not be falsely associated with the Greek economic crisis, as though there is a necessary relation.

To do so is a propaganda assist to the bankster criminals who are in the process of seizing all the wealth that can be squeezed out of Greece, and who recently executed a coup d'etat against democracy in Greece, installing one of their own as the unelected prime minister.

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JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
8. How do you identify stupid homophobes whose racist jokes
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 03:17 PM
Jan 2012

are a million years old?

No problem: They'll identify themselves!

 

Burge

(17 posts)
11. So you equate pedophiles with homosexuality?
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jan 2012

I really thought we were well beyond that here.

Guess not everyone got the memo.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
13. No, I correctly classify your stale joke as defamatory...
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 05:23 PM
Jan 2012

to Greeks and homosexuals alike. It's a classic from the canons of bigotry against both groups.

I'm not the alerting type, but someone will do it.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
4. Thought it might have been a nutjob claim but BBC link here
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 02:53 PM
Jan 2012

A Greek government plan to categorise paedophiles and pyromaniacs as "disabled" has alarmed disability groups, who fear it could undermine their state benefits.

The new code could be used "to cut the number of disabled people with a right to disability benefits", the groups' national leader, Yannis Vardakastanis, told BBC News.

Indebted Greece is slashing state aid.

Disabled Greeks rallied in December, demanding job and benefit protection.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-16486416

ohiosmith

(24,262 posts)
5. If my memory serves me, pedophiles will receive 35% disability while diabetics will receive only
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 03:04 PM
Jan 2012

10%. However a diabetic pedophile would get 45%.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
10. It's good to see Greece has it's priorities clear amid all this "austerity" talk.
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 04:23 PM
Jan 2012

I'm sure this will make laid off government workers happy knowing that they government was able to find some extra money, just not for them.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
12. They have a long history of it
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jan 2012

Some argue (and I think it makes a lot of sense) that what is referred to as homosexuality in the bible (and that word wasn't introduced in the bible until 1953, I think, because there was no word for homosexuality when the bible was written), is actually pedophilia and men who used male rape as a means of showing dominance.

obamanut2012

(26,067 posts)
14. And also for having sex with temple slaves
Tue Jan 10, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jan 2012

Specifically men dressed as women.

There is no correlation between homosexuality and the male-male sex referred to in the Bible. You are correct that "sodomy," etc. was a late edition. Those words do not exist in the original Greek and Hebrew.

Interesting factoid: Christ even heals a Roman Centurion's young slave lover in the NT.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
15. I just recently read about that. Another interesting factoid:
Wed Jan 11, 2012, 07:01 AM
Jan 2012

Some believe that Jesus acknowledged that some people are born gay. When he speaks to some folks about divorce, he talks about "born eunuchs" not ever getting married because they're, well, born eunuch. Born eunuch has been interpreted by some scholars to mean gay.

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