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Laelth

(32,017 posts)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:44 PM Jan 2021

"Life sucks, and then you die."

This is what my ex-wife told my children. This is what she believed. This is how she lives, and the same can be said of Donald Trump who also suffers from a Cluster B personality disorder. They’re self-interested nihilists—seeking only temporary pleasure and power to ward off their perpetual feelings of emptiness and worthlessness.

A parallel DU thread speculates about how long Trump will last after Biden becomes President. Some say suicide is likely. I think not. People with Cluster B disorders are too competitive and too selfish to commit suicide, for the most part. Some say his eating habits and general health will soon bring him down. This I also doubt. Persons with Cluster B personality disorders tend to be remarkably resilient. Trump’s father, Fred, continued to torture all those around him well into his eighties, despite otherwise-debilitating dementia. No, I don’t see Trump dying soon, but his life will suck more in the future than it does now. Naturally, his life has always sucked. He is incapable of experiencing love. He can not empathize. He sees himself as a perpetual victim. In his own, highly-limited mind, he doesn’t believe that anyone has had a harder life than he has had. He is utterly empty. He can barely sleep.

If I know anything about my ex-wife of 19 years, I feel certain that the same dynamic applies to her, just as it does to Trump and to all others who suffer from Cluster B personality disorders (narcissism-NPD, sociopathy/psycopathy-APD, borderline personality disorder-BPD, and histrionic personality disorder-HPD). To them, life sucks, and then you die. Your only satisfaction comes from beating everyone else in any way you can—whether in Court, or through shady business deals, or cheating at games, or just outright outliving them.

It seriously pained me to know that my ex-wife promulgated this life philosophy to our children. What I told them was very different. No. Life is beautiful. It is miraculous, and all life has value. In the end, life is all we have, and it’s all that is worth valuing. Yes, we will all die, physically, but think about these people—Lou Tzu, Kung Fu Tse (Confucious), Siddhartha Guatama (the Buddha), Moses, Jesus of Nazareth, Mohammad, Augustine, Shakespeare, Voltaire, Franklin, Madison, Jefferson, Lincoln, Douglas, Einstein, Elanor Roosevelt, and Martin Luther King, Jr. (and many, many others). Life is your brief chance to create something beautiful and give it back to the world. All the people I listed are more alive now than when they actually walked the Earth.

No, my children. Ignore the voice of nihilism. Life is BEAUTIFUL. Do what you can to make the world more just, more beautiful, and more loving in the time you have been granted. That is the only path to immortality.

-Laelth

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"Life sucks, and then you die." (Original Post) Laelth Jan 2021 OP
Well said njhoneybadger Jan 2021 #1
Thank you. n/t Laelth Jan 2021 #10
Marvelous. Mike 03 Jan 2021 #2
Thanks. n/t Laelth Jan 2021 #11
Well said Rorey Jan 2021 #3
It is VERY difficult to escape the clutches of a Cluster B-disordered person. Laelth Jan 2021 #6
Thank you Rorey Jan 2021 #7
In life you can build things up or you can tear things down...it's that simple. pecosbob Jan 2021 #4
What an awful, sad way to live. The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #5
Also well said Rorey Jan 2021 #8
Bingo. Tragic bingo. n/t Laelth Jan 2021 #9

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
3. Well said
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:50 PM
Jan 2021

The part about people like him being remarkably resilient is so true.

My ex-husband was in the hospital last summer for well over two months, hovering near death several times. But, damn it, he pulled through. On the bright side, he's suffering from severe depression and anxiety now.

On the other hand, I'm happier than I've been in possibly my entire life.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
6. It is VERY difficult to escape the clutches of a Cluster B-disordered person.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:58 PM
Jan 2021

And it’s usually very costly.

Congratulations on your escape!



-Laelth

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
7. Thank you
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:02 PM
Jan 2021

Every day I wake up and am HAPPY to be in MY house without him here. No more negativity. No more criticism. No more having to put up with a MAGAt.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
5. What an awful, sad way to live.
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 07:56 PM
Jan 2021

Trump has probably been miserable for his whole life, and because his personality disorders have made it impossible for him to be happy. He has no appreciation for abstract beauty - not art, not music, not nature. He has a reproduction of a Renoir that he insists is the original, but he values it not for its beauty or its excellence but because he knows a Renoir painting is valuable and confers prestige on its owner. He doesn't go to concerts or plays. He doesn't read books of any kind, let alone great literature. He isn't interested in exploring nature. He doesn't like animals and has never had a pet of any kind. He's had three wives and has cheated on all of them; they were trophy wives whom he never loved, and they probably never loved him. He doesn't have friends, just hangers-on. His recreation consists entirely of golf, at which he cheats and which he cultivates because his ownership of golf resorts makes him feel important (and he can list himself as the winner of nonexistent tournaments), and watching tv broadcasts about himself. He wants to see his name emblazoned in gold on every property he owns or licenses because he needs that big gold name to feel important, because there's nothing in his sad, empty soul that makes him feel adequate without the attention and praise of others.

I think just about all of us are happier than Trump, even if we don't have two dimes to rub together. We have friends, families, pets, and the love of things that are beautiful just because they are beautiful. If Trump weren't so horrifically destructive I'd feel a little sorry for him.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
8. Also well said
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 08:04 PM
Jan 2021

I know I'm happier than he is, and I'm also richer than he is in the things that truly matter.

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