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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,922 posts)
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 10:36 PM Feb 2021

Investigators signal some Capitol riot suspects could be charged with conspiring to overthrow U.S.

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Federal investigators have signaled some of the defendants in the attack on the U.S. Capitol could be charged with seditious conspiracy, a law enacted to target those who attacked the federal government during the Reconstruction era.

An indictment filed on Jan. 27 charges three of the riot suspects with conspiring to impede Congress' certification of the Electoral College vote for the 2020 presidential election. The filing alleges those three are members of the Oath Keepers, "a loosely organized collection of militia who believe that the federal government has been co-opted by a shadowy conspiracy that is trying to strip Americans of their rights."

Friday, prosecutors added six more suspected Oath Keepers as defendants in that conspiracy case. The indictment alleges that one of the suspects, Florida resident Kelly Meggs, 52, wrote Facebook posts referring to a tweet by then-President Donald Trump about the Jan. 6 protest in Washington, D.C.

"Trump said It's gonna be wild!!!!!!! It's gonna be wild!!!!!!! He wants us to make it WILD that's what he's saying," Meggs wrote, according to the indictment. "He called us all to the Capitol and wants us to make it wild!!! Sir Yes Sir!!! Gentlemen we are heading to DC pack your s---!!"

https://www.yahoo.com/news/oath-keepers-charges-could-feds-222951184.html
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Investigators signal some Capitol riot suspects could be charged with conspiring to overthrow U.S. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2021 OP
Trump and his spawn should be as well as his immediate circle. onecaliberal Feb 2021 #1
Evangelist Isis Oathers. multigraincracker Feb 2021 #2
I don't understand this comment. ShazzieB Feb 2021 #16
Religious terrorist. multigraincracker Feb 2021 #19
I wasn't offended. ShazzieB Feb 2021 #22
Investigate, indite, charge, try, convict and incarcerate bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #3
Wouldn't this be a capital offense? If convicted, the maximum sentence should be handed down. mobeau69 Feb 2021 #6
I think the charge is actually Seditious Conspiracy bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author bottomofthehill Feb 2021 #4
Reading this has given me a little bit of optimism for DJT's prospects msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #5
I think tRump opened the door, invited them in, but he can claim innocence Lettuce Be Feb 2021 #9
Justice needs to prevail or we all will lose faith msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #21
Trump can claim anything he likes but so what? triron Feb 2021 #24
The justice system must start to show its stuff. There is no greater time for it. n/t Eyeball_Kid Feb 2021 #13
No joke, what else would you call it?? And Trump led the effort! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2021 #7
Getting my guess out here. Remember when a message was sent Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #10
YES!!!! Absolutely!!! These people are traitors. PatrickforB Feb 2021 #11
Just wait until Garland takes over.... Jon King Feb 2021 #12
It seems only fair dianaredwing Feb 2021 #14
sounds right. Can we Gitmo them? ZonkerHarris Feb 2021 #15
OMG! That Jessica Watkins is throwing every defense at the book LeftInTX Feb 2021 #17
Riot: spontaneous violent mob. Insurrection: planned gathering for violent attack on gov't. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #18
They will try to hide behind a wall of patriotic garbage DFW Feb 2021 #20
I see a Supermax prison in these... LudwigPastorius Feb 2021 #23

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
16. I don't understand this comment.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 04:09 AM
Feb 2021

Evangelist Isis Oathers? What are you talking about?

This is perfectly straightforward article, about a very serious topic (people trying to overthrow our government). Nobody is kidding about anything.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
22. I wasn't offended.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 06:36 PM
Feb 2021

I found your post to be bafflingly cryptic is all.

I still don't understand the part about joking, but I don't feel like I necessarily need to.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
3. Investigate, indite, charge, try, convict and incarcerate
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 10:44 PM
Feb 2021

Don’t be afraid to throw away the key. Armed insurrection against the United States by domestic terrorists should be dealt with severely.

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
8. I think the charge is actually Seditious Conspiracy
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 10:59 PM
Feb 2021

Punishable by Twenty years but with the other charges around it, they could be looking at a lot longer. Add on Felony Murder 3 counts, I don’t think the suicides would make it into the charging, and the light of day is gone.

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msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
5. Reading this has given me a little bit of optimism for DJT's prospects
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 10:47 PM
Feb 2021

Behind Bars for the Rest of His Life.

It seems as though the FBI is just now discovering laws related to the conspiracy and attempt to overthrow our government are already on the books. Could it be the lawsuit the NAACP is bringing might have clued them in? Perhaps.

Or perhaps they knew, but just didn't want to deal with the facts in this way before now. Seems like something changed, finally.

Perhaps.

If so, I might risk feeling optimistic about DJT finally getting his just deserts sooner rather than never.

Lettuce Be

(2,336 posts)
9. I think tRump opened the door, invited them in, but he can claim innocence
Sun Feb 21, 2021, 11:53 PM
Feb 2021

when it comes to their actual motive which was/is overthrowing the US Govt. That's always been the Oath Keeper's Deal. tRump is an ignorant fool. A child playing with matches in a fireworks store. He should be held responsible but I'm thinking his pure ignorance of their true motives might just keep him out of prison. That's not even considering we've never punished an ex-president in any way shape or form so this would be a more difficult case.

It's interesting to contemplate but when considering the law, they'd have to be able to prove he knew their intent in the long run was to destroy our government, not just keep him in office. I feel he is truly so inept, so completely sold on his magnificence, that he cannot see past the end of his nose.

He needs to be held accountable for opening that door though. He's not completely innocent by a long shot.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
21. Justice needs to prevail or we all will lose faith
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 09:19 AM
Feb 2021

When Garland takes the helm of the Justice Department I'm expecting him to lead the way to bringing it to fruition. I believe he understands the full depth of depravity and lawlessness that need to be addressed in a truly meaningful way.

At least that is my hope. We shall see. But Justice delayed is Justice denied. And at no other time in history is it more important that Justice needs to prevail in the fullest meaning of the word. imo.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. Getting my guess out here. Remember when a message was sent
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 12:01 AM
Feb 2021

To air traffic controllers that a plane was gonna crash into the Capitol. It was out-of-the blue and about Iran. Last I checked there were no leads on it and seemed odd to investigators.

My guess - it was the "all systems go" signal to insurrectionists.

PatrickforB

(14,570 posts)
11. YES!!!! Absolutely!!! These people are traitors.
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:20 AM
Feb 2021

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy
U.S. Code

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
12. Just wait until Garland takes over....
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:20 AM
Feb 2021

They have not seen anything yet. Maximum sentences for conspiracy for as many as possible. Enjoy 10-20 years in federal prison while Trump golfs and Ivanka/Jared stroll Miami Beach....all with your campaign donations.

Bunch of complete suckers.

dianaredwing

(406 posts)
14. It seems only fair
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 01:40 AM
Feb 2021

That they want to spin the country back to the Civil War so they should be charged with offences appropriate to the time.

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
17. OMG! That Jessica Watkins is throwing every defense at the book
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:04 AM
Feb 2021

"I need to get out of jail because of Coronavirus, I'm part of the Secret Service, I'm transgender...."

I have a friend who has fully transitioned and she requires lots of maintenance in terms of make up etc. It's not cheap.
I also have another friend who also wears alot of make up. She still has voice issues.
This Jessica Watkins, she's not wearing any make up or anything, she doesn't have money. She looks like a woman. She's not a pretty woman, but she has appears to be a woman.

And then she got in trouble for keeping her bar open during coronavirus and now she's worried about coronavirus in jail...
Give me a break!

These people will say anything!!!

DFW

(54,349 posts)
20. They will try to hide behind a wall of patriotic garbage
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:30 AM
Feb 2021

I hope the prosecution is ready for it and smashes it to the ground. The Trumpanzees will say they were trying to "save" the country, not overthrow it. The prosecution, I hope, will ask them for a history of "patriotic" actions they have undertaken in the past. When that list turns out to include bringing guns to statehouses to threaten the governor, it should make the defense's arguments gown down the drain fairly quickly.

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