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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 06:33 PM Feb 2021

A Cult of Losers

A Cult of Losers

February 26, 2021 at 1:30 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 102 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2021/02/26/a-cult-of-losers/

"SNIP.....

Jonathan Chait: “Donald Trump has refused to follow the script. He has moved into a role of opposition leader and president in exile, a sort of hybrid between a parliamentary system (where a defeated prime minister might often slide immediately into opposition leadership) and banana republic, where a deposed strongman flees the country with a Swiss bank account and a retinue of goons…”

“To the outside world, it seems strange that Republicans would not only tolerate this but in many cases actively encourage it. Trump’s appeal to his party was rooted in his reality-television-corroborated claim to be a lifelong winner. Come to Trump’s side, he promised incessantly, and you will win so much you’ll get tired of it. What value does he still have now? When previous defeated presidents were discarded, why cling to the one whose value proposition was based on never being a loser?”

“An important part of the answer is that, seen through Republican eyes, Trump didn’t lose at all.”

......SNIP"

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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
2. Actually psychopathy works on those who are smart. They say dazzleling
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 07:54 PM
Feb 2021

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with details. Look at how long Democrats fought debt because the republicans came up with trickle down. It does not work on people who are bad at language and more visual than language based (unless the leader of the cult is a dyslexic and surrounded by psychopaths as dyslexics think in big pictures and paint pictures - a populist malevolent dyslexic like Trump). I read a book on the topic once and there was the description of a psychopath trying something on a policeman. The policeman said "Don't try that with me. That stuff only works on smart people and i'm not smart". Think about it. Those who live in a world of concrete visual thinking are not as vulnerable to flights of fancy as someone in the upper echelons of religious or political power, where psychopath are drawn to, and where following a faction or following religion, human fictions, is more important than the concrete. These days more people are attuned to human fictions as humans learn one or another from birth, even people who would normally be concrete, so a bigger portion of the population is vulnerable to psychopaths than in the days before the enlightenment. Humans are becoming more abstract. My grandmother grew up the daughter of a hard rock miner. Her stories were all about things that had happened in people's lives: inflection points. She had an advanced degree in nursing and read, but not philosophy in any way. She loved the community of her churches but did not talk about religion..she acted out her faith by walking the walk. She voted for the New Democratic Party until she died at 103. I learnt from her the concrete thinking and though i can be manipulated i was never fooled into going out with guys who had no business being interested in me, unfortunately in some cases, very fortunate in others. I have always been happiest alone. Democracies enable free thinking and dyslexics populists leaders - for good (Teddy Roosevelt) and for bad (Trump). Especially with a corrupted dyslexic leading and getting advice from Bannon and Roger Stone. Added to this good jobs taken away from white men and they start voting emotions rather than reason due to financial anxiety. It is the opposite of democracy, where incomes tended to rise, and makes them more vulnerable to appeals to white supremacy. In the past when people lived with financial anxiety they were yoked in some way, by class or by no democracy. Now it is the wild west with no western land available to white people to improve their lot. IMHO It depends on the psychopath. Are they appealing to the power and vanity of the elite? Or is it riches that might appeal to someone that has none. Are they stirring up scapegoating to those in distress because the world is changing? Everyone has a blind spot in the end because we have emotions.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
3. You may be right, but I've never thought of the 909 fatalities of the Jim Jones Cult in the 1978
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 09:52 PM
Feb 2021

mass suicide as being particularly bright! And that's just one example.

https://historyofyesterday.com/the-jonestown-massacre-jim-jones-and-the-peoples-temple-cult-388439deb524

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
4. Yes but 1/3 of Germans watched another 1/3 of Germans kill the other
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 10:03 PM
Feb 2021

third in the 20s, 30s and 40s. Germans have more engineers, some of the smartest people in a country, per capita than anyone else in the world these days. Fully two thirds of Germans fell for their assigned roles in the war crimes of the Nazis. For sure most were threatened with violence. That is just one tool in the box of psychopaths. It was a cult of personality.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
5. Maybe we could agree that a cult might be comprised of both smart people and non-smart
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 10:27 PM
Feb 2021

people? I could accept that. We can always sort them out later...

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
6. They may have lost but they
Fri Feb 26, 2021, 10:29 PM
Feb 2021

are dangerous.

Yes, they are easy to mock and we should ridicule them, but never lose sight of the fact that they are dangerous and many of them are unhinged.

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