conspiracy crap has taken a person

[arlyellowdog]

I work with a woman who is originally from Peru. She was the most loving woman and mother. We rejoiced together when our daughters got great jobs after their Masters and when they married and when they had kids. Before the election, she started to tell me things she heard on Spanish radio. She really didn’t like Trump and did think Biden was ok, but she did believe stuff about Oprah and kids and Democrats, etc, but she was still herself. Yesterday, I realized, my friend jus my thinks I’m either stupid or complicit. She is now a paranoid and very sad person. Evidently, the theory is the Biden is ok, but all the bad guys are setting up Kamala Harris to oust him. This lady is terrified. I wish I could help her, but she has been turned against me. The only thing I know is all the crap she is giving me is from a Colombian radio station and other Spanish language propaganda.

[JI7]

1. She is probably racist . Oprah and KAmala are the evil ones

[arlyellowdog]

4. Ugh, you might be right

I never thought of that. She is an immigrant. I do think it is a tribute to Joe Biden that, despite all her husband told her and all the propaganda she heard, she told me that she really felt he was a good man.

[kentuck]

2. It's disturbing to see how all of this has transpired... or is transpiring?

??

It reminds me of a story from the Bible:

https://overviewbible.com/nebuchadnezzar/

[Celerity]

19. An Exciting Evening at Home with Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego

Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego are figures from the biblical Book of Daniel, primarily chapter 3. In the narrative, three Hebrew men are thrown into a fiery furnace by Nebuchadnezzar II, King of Babylon, when they refuse to bow down to the king's image; the three are preserved from harm and the king sees four men walking in the flames, "the fourth ... like a son of God".

Beastie Boys

Label:
Capitol Records – V-15523
Format:
Vinyl, 12", 33 ⅓ RPM, Single
Country:
US
Released:
1989
Genre:
Hip Hop





Catacomb of Priscilla, Rome, late 3rd century

[no_hypocrisy]

3. RW Radio has expanded into Spanish stations.

I'm not surprised. Your friend is now a Dittohead.

[Thtwudbeme]

5. I lost a person in my extended family yesterday

She posted a photo of soldiers beside a photo of protesters with the caption, "These guys deserve free college, these do not."

I asked her about the veterans at the Capital riot. She deleted my post, and defriended me. She is the stepmother of two of my cousins. I have known her for over 35 years.

These people that listen to RW bullshit don't want to think. They want an authority figure that is not to be questioned. I truly- at this point- do not think there is any way to reach them.

[Bluethroughu]

9. My husband told me along time ago

A lot of people don't want to think, they just want to be told what to do. I said, "no, they just don't know any better and with knowledge comes the ability to make reasonable analysis".

I read recently that I was wrong, there is an authoritarian mindset consisting of people who just want to be told what to do.

We have No extended family on either side, because this right wing brain washing. They are racists, and think the Mexicans are taking over, they are MEXICAN on one side.

How do you fix that? When confronted with any facts, they stare at you as if you speak a different language, then change the conversation to shallow stuff about the weather.

[mollie8]

11. I experience this too

I recently noticed and commented to my husband that my Trump supporting relatives will turn off and/or change the subject when you tell them something that they couldn't refute if they would think about it. They like to make their point but will shut you down when it becomes uncomfortable for them. It makes me feel sad and hopeless.

[Bluethroughu]

14. Don't be hopeless, be you.

And when it becomes to hard to be you, around them, it's time to evaluate your family relationships.

You need to talk to a friend to help you with that or a therapist, but you will have to set boundaries for yourself, because family should not make you feel bad, it should be a safe place for you to be yourself, and talk about what matters to you also.

Our families when confronted with those statements, decided we weren't worth listening to, so we haven't talked to them in years...We don't miss them anymore, because we don't like them anymore.

[mollie8]

15. Thanks for your input, but

I debated about including the word, "helpless" but decided to leave it in because that's kind of how I feel when I get cut off. It's never too hard to be me, I'm always me and when I speak. I'm 73 years old and found out who I am a long time ago. I decided a while back that my sisters and sons were more important to me than the differences we have over the Repugs. So mostly, we just discuss other stuff. I love interacting with my family and when issues come up they can't talk about we just talk about something else. I certainly wouldn't give them up because some subjects are off limits. I wish they could face reality. I recently realized that's why they shut down; they can't face reality. But it doesn't keep me from loving them or wanting a relationship with them. I just hope some day they will wake up to the truth. It also makes me sad when people on DU turn away from family because of politics. Politics shouldn't be more important than family.

[Bluethroughu]

18. I'm glad you are able to have a relationship with your sister and sons.

I like to hear this, it's these relationships that can help bridge the gap between reality and the brainwashed.

Keep trying with them, and hopefully sooner than later something clicks, and they see what's really going on here with the GOP.

I wish my family was mentally pre-Reagan, after that they went downhill quickly. I don't even know them anymore, I don't think they know themselves.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

16. Your husband was correct.

It helps to realize that ALL religions essentially tell their followers: This is what to believe. Don't question it.

Some religions allow more wiggle room than others, but to be in a religion essentially means you give unquestioning loyalty to someone or something else. Life seems a lot simpler if you don't need to think for yourself.

Our schooling does something similar. Students are expected to learn and give back exactly what they've learned, which is fine in math, but not necessarily a good thing in other areas.

[Duppers]

6. Can we do anything to stop these propaganda...

/conspiracy sources??

[arlyellowdog]

7. I have written my local delegate

He does outreach to the Spanish community here in Virginia. I do think they did try to counter this misinformation here, but it definitely was a factor in the vote in Florida and Texas. President Biden fired the bad guys at VOA. My friend said she only listens to non American radio stations, especially from Columbia. I hope that a team of deprogrammers with knowledge of the community and media, can address this. The Hispanic vote was a factor in the election.

[3Hotdogs]

8. What I don't get ... don't they realize

Republicans don't like brown people?

Who do they think the border wall was s'posed to keep out?

[Klaralven]

10. You are assuming she is brown?

Columbia and Venezuela have large populations of Europeans.

Much of the political conflict is between Whites and various shades of Brown and Black.

[arlyellowdog]

13. My friend is Hispanic

Her husband is an Hispanic Trump lover.

[GulfCoast66]

12. Almost every immigrant I know from South American is as white as I am.

Most are pretty racist.

[Duppers]

17. And as another DUer always says

Stop the 1500 am radio stations spewing hate & conspiracies across the country - boycott their advertisers. Do the same for Fux.