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WarGamer

(12,354 posts)
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 01:03 AM Mar 2021

The J&J Vaccine could be a game changer... but it probably won't be.

If I were King... or President or whatever...



Assemble an insulated package with 100 does of J&J Vaccine with a cool-pak and mail ONE pack daily to every pharmacy in the US.

Sound daunting?

Have Amazon be responsible for the delivery.

Pharmacists and their techs give shots year round... they know what they're doing.

Leftover vaccine can be stored in the existing refrigerators in the Pharmacy.

Start poking folks at 9AM, 50 shots available and again at 1PM, last 50 shots.

You'd get FAR MORE vaccines in people's arms without this IDIOTIC NONSENSE of massive football stadium parking lots with 6 rows of cars driving thru getting poked through the window.

Unfortunately... gov't bureaucracy isn't always overly bright.

EDIT: They should also allow self-vaccination. There are ALREADY self-administered syringes engineered and produced.

In addition, a typical city of 100k might have 25 pharmacies. That's 2500 vaccinations a day, 17,500 a week and 70k a month.


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The J&J Vaccine could be a game changer... but it probably won't be. (Original Post) WarGamer Mar 2021 OP
It may be the incentive dweller Mar 2021 #1
yup... nt WarGamer Mar 2021 #2
I think it could be a game changer. radius777 Mar 2021 #3
The University of Pittsburgh has developed a microneedle array... Buns_of_Fire Mar 2021 #5
In a world where people eat Tide Pods flotsam Mar 2021 #14
You're forgetting that the limitation is manufacturing the vaccine. Ms. Toad Mar 2021 #4
SOT DAMANgoldberg Mar 2021 #6
The UK Astra-Zenicas version is not approved in the US. wnylib Mar 2021 #8
TY DAMANgoldberg Mar 2021 #9
Ok. But you have to make them first. GulfCoast66 Mar 2021 #7
I think you should be on the President's team. C Moon Mar 2021 #10
Self-vaccination is an interesting idea, area51 Mar 2021 #11
Question: Can pharmacy parking lots hold 50+ cars? FSogol Mar 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Mar 2021 #13

dweller

(23,613 posts)
1. It may be the incentive
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 01:14 AM
Mar 2021

for the younger population that might not be inclined to show up for the 2nd dose

1 and done

✌🏻

radius777

(3,635 posts)
3. I think it could be a game changer.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 01:18 AM
Mar 2021

The existing 2-shot vaccines have a more complex supply/storage chain due to cold requirements, and need people to make the follow up appointment.

The J&J is more durable and 1-shot, thus is much simpler, which means an easier/wider rollout.

I agree with the home vaccine method. Just design a simple mechanism and have people enter their data into an app when they self administer it.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,154 posts)
5. The University of Pittsburgh has developed a microneedle array...
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:03 AM
Mar 2021

Microneedle arrays (MNAs) are a promising way of delivering vaccines into the body. They are nearly pain-free and can penetrate a substantial portion of the skin, which is considered an excellent place to inject vaccines because of the skin’s sensitive and very reactive immune network. Injecting small amounts of a vaccine strategically into the skin can, therefore, produce a significantly more intense immune response than that created using conventional hypodermic needles.

A team at the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine have now developed a microneedle array patch that can carry live or attenuated viral vectors, as well as adjuvant compounds to boost vaccine effectiveness. The patch is very impressive at activating a strong immune response.

The patch has 400 nearly microscopic needles that are made from sugar mixed with the viral vectors and adjuvant that are required for the application. When pressed against the skin, reportedly the patch feels just like touching a piece of Velcro. The needles punch through the upper layer of the skin where they absorb fluids from the skin that cause them to dissolve and the vaccine compounds within to begin their activity within the body. The researchers believe that this approach should improve the cellular immune response to vaccinations.

https://www.medgadget.com/2020/04/microneedle-array-for-universal-vaccine-delivery-developed.html

When I read this, my thought was to replace the pad in a Band-Aid with the array and start mailing them out like crazy, with the instructions to place the Band-Aid ion your arm, give yourself a good thwack to set the needles, and leave it on your arm for a day or so.

Oh... yeah... mail them in the Age of DeJoy...

flotsam

(3,268 posts)
14. In a world where people eat Tide Pods
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 01:09 PM
Mar 2021

...and Gorilla Glue their hair I'm not convince the general public is up to handling a free supply of injectable anything.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
4. You're forgetting that the limitation is manufacturing the vaccine.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:02 AM
Mar 2021

It's impossible to ship out what does not yet exist.

DAMANgoldberg

(1,278 posts)
6. SOT
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:46 AM
Mar 2021

I saw somewhere that there are 4 major vaccines available to the "developed" world (meaning North America, UK, the European Union, and Oceania). But only 3 are available for Emergency Use in the US. I'm not really versed on why this is so?

wnylib

(21,340 posts)
8. The UK Astra-Zenicas version is not approved in the US.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 03:19 AM
Mar 2021

This is the vaccine company that had to stop their program for a while because there were serious side effects in the testing period. It has been corrected and approved in the UK, but not the US. Also, the UK is reluctant to make it available outside of the country until all Brits are vaccinated.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
7. Ok. But you have to make them first.
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 03:05 AM
Mar 2021

It will be June before they can deliver their full number. But then the 2 dose vaccine will have been delivered to most who want a vaccine.

area51

(11,896 posts)
11. Self-vaccination is an interesting idea,
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 10:09 AM
Mar 2021

but I'm concerned that there isn't a medical professional there in case someone has an adverse reaction.

FSogol

(45,446 posts)
12. Question: Can pharmacy parking lots hold 50+ cars?
Tue Mar 2, 2021, 10:17 AM
Mar 2021

Thinking up solutions on the internet is easy.
Accomplishing things in real life is difficult.
Avoid, the "they should fix everything now, that's what I would do" mode of thinking.

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