Why does Atlanta shooter go to massage parlors for sex?

[Funtatlaguy]

He’s claiming he’s been fighting his sexual urges.
Why doesn’t he pick up and kill prostitutes?
His excuse doesn’t add up unless these massage parlors are, in actuality, houses of prostitution.
Patriots owner Bob Kraft argued that these are legitimate massage therapists that he frequented.

[temporary311]

1. Did Kraft argue that

before or after the tapes were ruled inadmissable and then destroyed?

[Iliyah]

2. And killed people at the locations . ....

It appears to be a hate crime.

[Runningdawg]

3. I think we agree that many massage parlors, not just Asian

could be considered houses of prostitution. And really? Bob Kraft is your guide to legit info? That's right up there with believing men used to buy Playboy to read the articles.
His excuse doesn't hold up. How many sex workers and sexually oriented businesses did he pass before deciding to enter an Asian business? And the next 2? He's been brainwashed by religion to believe men would never sin if it weren't for women and who believes he is completely justified in his actions.

[PCIntern]

41. I bought Playboy mostly for the articles...

For pics we had Screw, Juggs, and many others.

[obamanut2012]

7. Can we not make priosn rape jokes, please?

[magicarpet]

5. Probability the Atlanta shooter was an incel,... a failed incel,...

.... then realized it was not love he found in the massage parlor but just a cold financial transaction.

He likely resented the fact that he was not found totally irresistible and desirous, and he wallet was all that they loved.

[Funtatlaguy]

8. So he kept going to massage parlors and killed those who wouldn't give him sex?

[lagomorph777]

23. More likely he killed those who did.

Because in his warped mind, his addiction was their fault.

[magicarpet]

37. Well,... rape is not done for sexual desire,... but an expression of power,... overpower the,...

... sexual partner.

What this Atlanta guy did was the ultimate expression of his power over his sexual partners. But he was very angry,... about what we can only speculate,.. only he truly knows what goes on in the deepest recesses of his mind.

But we do know that during the expression of his power over what he seems to think was his sexual partner(s),... he let his newly purchased gun do his speaking for him.

Rather than rape,... he let his gun be the instrument to express his power over these women he killed.

[onethatcares]

36. what you said,

"but just a cold financial transaction" I wondered where he came up with that.

I'm a believer that children learn what they live and the transactions of what they see aren't always in dollar bills but in other exchange media (sic ?)

Maybe, and I say this as just "maybe", if the U.S. of A wasn't so obsessed with sex and violence, or sexual violence there may have been a much different outcome or it would not have happened at all.

Along with treasonous bastages trying to take our democracy away we have to deal with people afraid of their own sexuality. So we ban certain books by Dr. Suess. We are nucking futz.....

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

6. One of the other things that really pissis me off

Is this is another huge step back for massage practitioners and massage therapists. The official people who do this type of work for injury and sports massage are getting a bad rap. This is once again giving people the picture that massage is a sexual thing.

[Funtatlaguy]

9. Bingo. You made my point.

There is a world of difference from a certified or licensed massage therapist and someone who gives “massages” in massage parlors.
Ask anyone whose been to both or ask any cop.

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

14. I tried to make it through massage school and encountered a lot of people who thought

it was just sex. I would like to hear the people who work at the parlors rattle off anatomy and physiology. That is why I couldn't make it. That is some hard stuff to learn.

[Funtatlaguy]

16. I have very bad arthritis. Massage gives me relief. Sex doesn't.

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

18. Sex hurts

[Funtatlaguy]

24. It can. Both physically and emotionally.

[randr]

10. Have you ever driven through the SE?

Large bill boards advertising 800 sex call numbers and strip clubs are almost every 5 miles along interstate highways. AT least they were a few years back when I made the drive up the coast. It would have been hard for me to have my younger children with all the flesh on display. It is a wonder the whole population is not over sexed with it all. It must be a huge source of income for them to put up with it.

[Funtatlaguy]

11. Correct. Police sometimes crack down but mostly ignore these places.

I’d bet many women there are part of forced sextraffic and very underpaid and poorly treated.
These events will shine a light on them that some cops (that frequent them for ether sex or monetary payoffs) won’t want to see happen.

[Klaralven]

20. Police would rather that prostitution be organized and orderly, rather than chaotic and troublesome

[Funtatlaguy]

21. I think it should be legalized and regulated and taxed.

[underpants]

29. A big focus of the anti-trafficking movement is engaging police

Mostly out in the areas of the truck stops. They have a real - who cares they are just drug addict - mentality. Explaining to them these are captives and probably from communities just like theirs is the first step.

[WarGamer]

12. Several reasons...

all related to his age, community and religious training.

Can't bang the local talent because it might get back to your parents or the other people in the community who will judge you.

Why pick up food from McDonalds instead of street vendors?

Might have perceived that massage parlors were "safer" and more anonymous?

[Funtatlaguy]

15. True. My OP was a little tongue in cheek.

It has long been a dirty little secret that these places are not legit massage therapy.
They use women who often are brought into America Thru sex trafficking.
These are not women trained as legitimate massage therapists.
Men that go there expect to get sex, not massage.

[WarGamer]

17. absolutely!!!

[Treefrog]

31. So even though there was a woman there with her husband at one of these places, and even though

we know nothing about the other women killed, you want to call them prostitutes?

[RobinA]

43. Yeah, We Have

have a thriving business of these "massage" parlors in Philadelphia. Everybody knows what they are because they don't make a big point of seeming legit.

[Yavin4]

13. Prostitution today is done online through sites like OnlyFans.

The more savvy sex workers require screening for their clients along with references.

Street walking prostitution is rare.

[EX500rider]

28. "Street walking prostitution is rare."

Not really, as least near where I live in Fla there are quite a few in certain parts of town on the streets 24/7 near their drug houses. (I don't live in a great part of town, lol)

[Yavin4]

38. Just because there are some streetwalkers in your town...

that does not represent the majority of prostitution. For every one streetwalker in your town, there are thousands operating online.

Additionally, the vast majority of porn is also now online. What people think of as the "porn industry" is slowly giving away to sites like OnlyFans.

[triron]

19. I really don't give a shit. What should be alarming is that he murdered 8 people, 7 of them Asian

so senselessly.

[Happy Hoosier]

22. You've never heard of "Happy Endings"? NT

[Funtatlaguy]

25. Sure. But some believe "going there" demeans the victims.

Whether or not these women were in the sex traffic, they obviously didn’t deserve to die.
Did they deserve to be sex trafficked? No.
Where are the owners of these places?
And who hired the women there?

[uponit7771]

32. Where is the evidence that they were sex trafficked at all !?! omfg

[Happy Hoosier]

40. The women in those types of establishments

Are usually victims. But I have not heard that these particular places were confirmed to be prostitution fronts.

[EX500rider]

26. I'd say they are in fact houses of prostitution..

...the biggest tell was one of them had "Aromatherapy" on their sign, a way to get around the need to have licensed masseuse's
as "aromatherapy" has no licensing.

[Walleye]

27. Should've shot his own penis

[MacKasey]

30. Agree

[Azathoth]

33. Probably because it requires the least work

Picking up a prostitute is likely a lot of work, including having to find them, having the confidence to approach them and negotiate, having some place to go, knowing the person you're picking up isn't going to rob/kill you, etc.

Hiring one online probably involves similar considerations.

Walking into a brick-and-mortar store and purchasing a service performed right there on premises seems much easier and probably safer.

[uponit7771]

34. Because sane people don't believe text book terrorist unless they're white? WTF people ?!

The terrorist giving a reason for some shit should've be taken at face value no matter what their skin color is right?

tia

[Volaris]

35. He shot 8 women. Prostitutes or not, shouldnt make a difference.

IF sex workers, it should prompt the debate about how to legalize, regulate, and tax the job (if legit)

If not legit, it should prompt a debate about illegal sex and human trafficking.

If legal and legit, it should prompt a debate about firearms control.

In any case, murder was not part of the above equation, so fuck this lock him the hell up. C'mon, republican lurkers, ARGUE WITH ME.

I fuckin dare you.

[applegrove]

39. I think the police said they had no history with the establishments

and were not about to speculate on the dead victims.

I say just as likely the killer assumed they were places where sex was paid for and killed these people who were actually running a legit spa. Just as likely that the killer was assuming too.

[Treefrog]

44. Sex has absolutely nothing to do with these murders. Did you see the ages of the women killed?

Have you read their stories?