Shut the front door! - young Dems now like Biden more than Bernie

[onetexan]

https://twitter.com/i/topics/news/e-320979382?cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

31% Biden to 28% Bernie...who'da thunk it?!%!

[ColinC]

1. Well. One is not running anymore and the other is president

Fighting for popular policies while upholding his legacy under the most popular president of their lifetime. So yeah:Makes sense.

[DanieRains]

10. I Like Both 100%

They are both the best of people.

They both genuinely care about me and my family.

[ColinC]

13. Agreed

I think Biden is more popular because he is in the spotlight doing a lot of good. It makes sense.

[questionseverything]

27. Yep Bernie is in good company!

President is doing great job 👏

We need federal voting rights and we would be golden

[Cha]

2. Not a surprise.. Oh I

now see the "young" part.. lol

Thank you young Dems! GOTV in the Midterms for Democracy!

Mahalo President Biden!

[betsuni]

12. Not a surprise -- they're Democrats!

The days of booing at the words "Democratic establishment," booing at people like John Lewis, mindless cynicism that everyone's corrupt and Wall Street and corporations control everything and Democrats are all "centrists/moderates/corporatists" are over! Finally!

[FoxNewsSucks]

15. Now if we could only get people to stop

bashing independents who work harder for democratic principles than some Democrats, and realize that it isn't all cynicism. Maybe we'll see an end to sharp-stick poking. It certainly serves no useful purpose.

Biden is popular because he's doing good and it is realized. It is a very pleasant surprise, and shouldn't be used to be dismissive of some groups of liberals I doubt that same high level of popularity would be there if he had followed a "third-way" or "centrist" policy. .

Let's be glad that we have a decent person in office who is willing to work his ass off for Americans. Those who want to antagonize someone should redirect that toward the Democrat who relishes publicly standing in our way.

[wackadoo wabbit]

17. Thank you for posting this

I agree 100%.

[betsuni]

18. "It is a very pleasant surprise." It's not a surprise.

Joe Biden is a liberal and progressive.

[FoxNewsSucks]

50. By definition,

something unexpected is "a surprise" to some degree.

It's good that some apparently read Biden's mind and, knowing in advance exactly what he planned to do, therefore weren't surprised.

For the rest of us, it certainly was something of a surprise and a very welcome one. I hope he keeps it up.

[Bettie]

45. Thank you

This is how I feel too.

I was very surprised that Biden was willing to move in the direction he has after being told for months that he would be a middle of the road "centrist". As you said, I doubt he'd be as popular as he is had he gone in that direction.

And the takeaway from the article is that both Biden and Sanders are popular, not that "Biden is 3 points more popular"!

[Cha]

20. This is so Great! TY

Well Done!

That was a bad Loser period.

[betsuni]

24. Some people are STILL doing the silly "neoliberal" "Third Way" "centrist" "corporate Democrats"

insults. Guess it will take more time for that bullshit to completely go out of fashion. I have confidence young people can see through the "both sides" propaganda and not fall for populist slogans.

[Cha]

25. Yes, young people can see

how important it is for Democracy to Prevail for the future of our country & Planet.. and the President we have is working so hard for that.

We have a few Dems who aren't working as a Team but there's no damn reason to try and paint the Dem Party with their brush.

[FoxNewsSucks]

48. Some people are STILL sticking their heads in the sand

about the position of "corporate Democrats", and apparently don't realize that YES corporations and billionaires WANT to control everything. They won't stop trying. They already own the republicon party lock, stock and barrel. It's silly to think they are content with that.

It's up to us to keep that from happening. Ignoring it will only help them.

[betsuni]

57. If it's up to us to stop "corporations and billionaires" why promote "both sides"?

Why discourage support for the Democratic Party, the progressive party? Why tell people Democrats are corrupt, ignore the working and middle classes, only care out money from corporate and wealthy donors? The only way to stop Republicans is get more Democrats in office and convincing people that Democrats are corrupt doesn't help.

No, the goal for those people is to defeat Democrats. Whether they really believe the party isn't progressive and must be taken over and transformed, want a revolution, or use these anti-Democratic insults for their own purposes, doesn't matter. Results are the same. Some politicians use populism to win elections, but there are unfortunate consequences.

For example, Justice Democrats' emails are all about evil "corporate Democrats." Republicans aren't mentioned very often. It's clear who the enemy is, who they must "take on."

Corporations and billionaires don't have superpowers. Regulate and tax them, that's what Democrats do. These silly insults don't help make this happen.

[OverBurn]

3. Just hope they all come out to vote in 2022 and 2024.

[Karadeniz]

4. They've probably realized that the GOP would've had a field day with Bernie (unfortunately) and

Turned the public against progressivism. The young may be understanding that politics is complicated.

[empedocles]

5. Hope so

[Escurumbele]

6. I really hope Democrats are not starting a "Bernie vs Biden" competition

Bernie is helping a lot, and to get into this silliness is very silly...

Let us continue supporting everyone who helps move the Democratic agenda forward, it is a very good agenda, and progressives like AOC, Bernie, etc. are helping a lot, so please, dismiss this idiocy, it may be a plant by republicans to "divide and conquer".

Let us all grow up.

[NurseJackie]

8. I do not believe that Democrats are "starting" anything...

... but one thing I do know is that it's not very uniting whenever anyone accuses Democrats and Democratic leadership of being "Coastal Elites". Now that's something that doesn't help.



Sincerly,
Jackie*

(* a loyal Democrat, not a "Coastal Elite," thank you very much.)

[Cha]

21. Yeah, that was such

bullshit & "eating canapes" for Cripe sake!

[onetexan]

32. Yea those labels are more partisan nonsense

We are all Americans -at least the sane, sensible majority of us who voted for Biden. Party should never trump country. Everyone, and esp'ly elected leaders, should always place whats good for the country first.

[LanternWaste]

19. You should provide at least a bare minimum of evidence...

if you're going to proffer the unsupported implication these numbers are anything other than what they state.

"Let us all grow up...." Indeed.

[Cha]

22. That's already happened

.. why we have President Biden!

[NurseJackie]

7. On accomplishments alone, Biden wins! Of course! He deserves everyone's admiration...

... and support. Biden is a stalwart and loyal Democrat. He's a true leader.

[onetexan]

58. second that! Biden is in deed a brilliant strategist & plays the politics game very well. So glad

he's now in charge - our Commander in Chief.

[Iggo]

9. Keep fighting that primary!

[Cha]

23. Oh you think this news

should be buried?

We shouldn't know about it bc you don't don't like it?

[Iggo]

51. Wow! I haven't heard from you since the primary.

I never said the news should be buried.

I was using sarcasm to suggest that the continued animosity of the primary season is, to my mind, counterproductive.

See the difference?

[Cha]

53. I see the Great News that the one in charge.. President Joe Biden

is appreciated More by

young Dems now like Biden more than Bernie

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215308848

[greenjar_01]

11. Competence and getting shit done rather than just blabbering is helpful in this regard

[Skittles]

26. oh no you didn't!

[onetexan]

31. +1 -K&R

[George II]

14. I think they always did.

[NJCher]

16. I find this post offensive and divisive

People around here call for unity and then you see this kind of stuff.

[onetexan]

30. Hmm whats offensive &divisive about it?

[FoxNewsSucks]

47. As said,

the article isn't about Sanders being disliked, or liked less, but that Biden is now increasingly liked by Sanders supporters. They're BOTH liked.

Some are apparently such small people that they can't pass up a chance to antagonize The Left or take a shot at Sanders. They foolishly overlook the simple fact that Biden's increasing popularity in general is due to his liberal policy. A surprisingly and unexpected liberal policy. He's a genuinely decent caring human being, but that doesn't get you far politically.

Again, they're BOTH liked. Deservedly so. Biden has earned the approval. If he keeps up the liberal policy agenda, his popularity will only increase. Because of that, not in spite of that.

[onetexan]

52. Exactly, wasn't meant to belittle or diss Bernie in any way

[NJCher]

54. I will answer your question

but I can't do it right at the moment because I am super-busy. However, when I do have a chance to write, it will prol'ly look pretty much like the post FoxNewsSucks wrote.

[Cha]

28. Mahalo, onetexan!

Presideent Joe Biden!

[onetexan]

29. GM sunshine Cha how r u

Swamped w work these days but i do try to sneak in here once in a while to take a break & keep up w what's going on politically. Hope Biden &Dems manage to coax those still on the fence on the infrastructure plan. Dems need to go alone on this deal it seems. BUT i do think they w get it passed given its hugely popular w the public. Fingers crossed.

Hoping i can also find time to do a weekend trip to see the lovely wildflowers blooming now across the rural highways in Tx. Quite a lovely sight in deed, thanks to Lady Bird

[Cha]

39. Good Morning Sunshine to you,

onetexan! Glad you popped in with such great news.. we need the young people!

I love the Texas Wildflowers.. been through your lovely state a long time ago and remember them. I'm a sucker for Flowers anyway.

💙I remember Bluebells!

[onetexan]

56. i think you mean bluebonnets, our official TX flower

no worries i'd call them bluebells too

[Cha]

61. Ah Mahalo for setting

me straight on their name.. so beautiful in the fields!💙

[A-Schwarzenegger]

33. Bernie taught an old Joe new tricks.

[betsuni]

34. What new tricks did old Bernie teach old Joe?

[A-Schwarzenegger]

35. Um....

old progressivism? Hi, Betsuni. Not looking for a fight. I'm very happy with Joe, surprised and happy. But you have to consider that Bernie did help nudge Joe to the left. and that felt nudge is at least a part of Joe's popularity. He has earned it. My light poke is nothing but a self-reminder of the horror show we would be in right now if Donald Lummox were serving another 4 years. Peace.

[betsuni]

36. You mean old progressivism pre-FDR?

"The original progressive movement ended when FDR became President in 1933. Progressives wanted to end wealth inequality and provide good education and decent jobs for everyone. Generally, they wanted to do this by making Capitalism fairer -- busting up the monopolies and trusts of the robber barons; allowing labor unions; and limiting the workday, the workweek, and child labor. They won women the right to vote and the progressive income tax. They also brought us Prohibition. All this brought about a radical change in thinking -- the repudiation of individualism and laissez-faire capitalism. But it did not include government spending for the general welfare. That's where FDR's liberalism comes in. FDR liberalism was the next step after progressivism. ... Recently, the term progressive has been revived and has changed meaning."

Steven Stoft, "Ripped Apart"

Biden is following the tradition of liberal Democrats like FDR and LBJ. Nobody has to nudge Democrats to the left. They're there already and when they have the votes they pass progressive legislation.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

37. OK.

Like i said, not here to argue. I've never been into it, and i've never been good at it, and i'm too old to learn new tricks. We disagree on minor details in the big picture. If i offended you or anybody with a soft jab at Joe that i suspect he himself would smile at, I apologize. I think Joe and Bernie very much like and respect each other on many levels. I remember that you and I have always had good and kindly exchanges and i'd like to have it remain that way. I am still wallowing like a pig in the sweet mud of Joe's walloping of the Demon. Again, peace to you.

[betsuni]

43. No.

"I think Joe and Bernie very much like and respect each other on many levels." Joe knows politics and how to deal with problems and he has done so.

"Minor details" have been made out to be major ideological differences (corrupt, neoliberal, corporatist, status quo, PAC money, wealthy donors, etc.).

I'm old too, but I have common sense.

[Cha]

38. No he didn't.. President Biden

is a Uniter with the experience to get things Done.. two brilliant qualities that got us here Today!

[A-Schwarzenegger]

40. Hi, Cha.

Hope you are well. Go Joe! I'm still learning.... Peace.

[Cha]

41. Peace to you, A_Shwartzy

[A-Schwarzenegger]

42. Amen

[SYFROYH]

44. Well, Biden is acting more like Bernie.

Last edited Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:45 AM - Edit history (1)

Biden is no longer the guy who voted with segregationists.

Biden is no longer actively advocating for asset forfeiture and tougher prison sentences

Biden is no longer the guy advocating for war with Iraq

Biden is providing financial resources to those in need.

Biden is doing a great job on the pandemic.

eta: Ari Melber Says Biden Increasingly Sounds Like ‘The New Bernie’

MSNBC’s Ari Melber said on Tuesday that President Joe Biden, “at times, can sound a bit like the new Bernie [Sanders]” — addressing the president’s increasingly progressive views throughout his political career.

“Joe Biden has begun his presidency on a more liberal footing than the last two Democratic presidents, which makes this the most progressive start to any presidency in the past 40 years,” Melber said, noting that Biden is “pushing for a cumulative $4 trillion in total spending in his first 100 days.”

Comparing today’s Biden to the Biden of the 1990s, Melber played several clips from his time as a self-described “centrist” senator.

“More cops, more prisons, more physical protection for the people,” he said in one clip from November 1993, later adding, “We have predators on our streets.”

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ari-melber-says-biden-increasingly-sounds-like-the-new-bernie/

[SmartVoter22]

46. The Kids Are Allright

and they are showing what they want, by thier support of individual candidates.
Yes they like Bernie, because Bernie addressed thier concerns.
Yes they like Biden because Biden is addressing thier concerns, and embraced many of Bernie's campaign issues.

The kid's are allright.

[onetexan]

60. hear hear! The kids are in deed alright. & they overwhelmingly voted for Biden/Dems.

We need a repeat for 2024 & every election thereafter - YOUNG PEOPLE = YOUNG LIBERAL DEMOCRATS.

[Autumn]

49. Of course. Biden is the president, and he's sounding a lot like Bernie.

Young Democrats finally have a president who understands their concerns and listens.

[roamer65]

55. Joe is like that cool grandpa.

[48656c6c6f20]

59. ThAt iS aMazInG

, ahh couldn't help myself.