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Lately, I have noticed comments from friends & acquaintances who I thought might be non-political, have made comments about Pres Biden's spending ideas. "Infrastructure is only a small portion of the bill", or "Boy, that is a lot of money we're spending". Of course, I retort immediately stating, 'it's about time we took care of our infrastructure- it has been too long' .
There's no follow-up discussion but I now know they are 'in the closet' Trump people who had been very careful in stating their views.
Has anyone else noticed this change all in the last couple months?
no_hypocrisy
(46,019 posts)And promised it after his election, just like healthcare.
Midnight Writer
(21,708 posts)Infrastructure spending is an investment that will enhance our future value as a nation.
Just like replacing a leaky roof on your house. It will pay off in the long run.
CrispyQ
(36,420 posts)NonPC
(282 posts)tell them we can pay for it by repealing the multi-trillion dollar tax break for the rich from two years ago. Period, Then expect silence, and muttered sounds. Just see how they react. Can 95% of all republicans really say -- with a straight face -- that tax break was really needed? Especially since the Billionaire class just added 30% in net worth over the last year? Just bringing up this tax break for the rich will instantly freeze their Fox brains. That tax break has been proven to be indefensible, and they know it. And it's about the same amount of dollars for the new plan -- which will benefit ALL Americans. How patriotic would that be? If these closet people can't agree to the logic in that, then they are truly done for. Stick a fork in them.
lame54
(35,262 posts)Over time it will deteriorate and lose value
Then something will break burst or fall down
Then it will really cost you
ShazamIam
(2,564 posts)they use for information, and some love to be contrary.
machoneman
(3,997 posts)close enough, I can and do read the captioning. My God, it's open season on how much money Biden wants to spend. Large amounts, obscene amounts, dirty Democratic sums of cash and on and on.
And if it's not this topic, My God it's the huge increase in unaccompanied kids at the border! 24/7 and likely 365 from here on out. One would think zero migrants ever hit the border under Trump!
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C_U_L8R
(44,986 posts)Apparently, fiscal responsibilty isn't their 'thing' anymore. As if it ever was.
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,231 posts)i can trace it at least 40 years back: a republican becomes President, borrows piles of money to balloon spending on the military and give a hefty tax cut to the rich (they all call it a middle-class tax cut), deregulates the economy, raises unemployment and sends jobs overseas, tanks the economy in the process, eventually raises taxes on staple goods for all Americans (hey, no income taxes, though!) and bails. While he is in office, Republicans don't care one bit about national debt, or deficit, or the GDP, or standard of living, and, when criticized, blame the whole thing on the "wisdom of the marketplace" that is supposed to "regulate itself".
Then a Democrat becomes President and fixes the mess. This is when things like national debt, the deficit, the GDP, the nation's standard of living, etc., etc., begin to matter again to the republicans and they begin to very vocally demand instantaneous action on all fronts. Until a Republican becomes President again, when the cycle repeats itself.
Duh...
NonPC
(282 posts)And the reason that Republicans maintain their base, is because they message 10 times better than the Dems. Or 10 times as much. You get the point. In any case, they keep selling and repeating a non-logical senseless plan to their wide base much more effectively, so that there is no way to avoid a brainwashing.
stopdiggin
(11,241 posts)a very tiny minority are even on hand when it came to tax cuts and Republican administrations ...
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catbyte
(34,332 posts)And a big reason for the debt:
c-rational
(2,588 posts)That could change, but I say full steam ahead on infrastructure spending. It, as does almost all environmental regulatory spending, pays for itself and then some, over the long run.
MissMillie
(38,529 posts)when you have something to show for it. (Other than increasing the off-shore bank accounts of billionaires)
c-rational
(2,588 posts)estimated the cost of repairs/rebuild at 4 trillion. We have a 20 trillion dollar economy. Over 10 years that is 200 trillion. To say we cannot afford 2 trillion or even 4 trillion to fix our house is ludicrous.
Martin68
(22,759 posts)potshots at Biden. Then again, they were always criticizing individual Democrats for doing things that were of no consequence while ignoring Trump's lies and crimes.
JI7
(89,239 posts)they are non partisan or have real concerns and then doing what you said.
XanaDUer2
(10,495 posts)librarian coworker was worrying aloud about the country "affording " the Biden covid bill. He has 2 small kids. Doubt he's a Trumper, but who knows.
MissMillie
(38,529 posts)Not all those who oppose this kind of spending are necessarily supporters of the last guy.